Louise Trotter - Designer, Creative Director of Bottega Veneta

[PDFSD]

Hey guys and gals, she has not presented a full collection yet, no need to revert to rude A*cora insults like that so soon.
This world needs more kindness.

you dont wait for a tsunami to hit you on the beach before you start running 🙅‍♀️🙅‍♂️🌊

 

[jeanclaude]

Hey guys and gals, she has not presented a full collection yet, no need to revert to rude A*cora insults like that so soon.
This world needs more kindness.

After what she has shown so far, I can tell it´s another disaster in the making...

 

[Frederic01]

BOTTEGA VENETA

 

[Frederic01]

LOUISE TROTTER

 

[yslforever]

Really just hope she can (or is allowed to) develop BV further than intreciattio everything.
It was more subtle with Maier, then in-your-face with Lee, then Blazy mixed it with way too many trompe-l'oeil.
Just glad to see Edward L. Buchanan being acknowledged, even if I thinks it's too little, too late, and resonates like a PR coup.

 

[PDFSD]

LOUISE TROTTER

what i see here is nothing to sell so used characters as props to evoke emotion ...
black and white does not fit BV either is too serious and sad somehow & the intechato does not come alive in BW pictures either

 

[jeanclaude]

BOTTEGA VENETA

Conceptual fapping in b/w with celebs...they forgot to do this with their hands:

 

[Creative]

CRINGE

please read this with the accent of that 40 something year old woman with red hair that always talks on Instagram about brands saying that they are cringe or real (💀💀). She lives in my for you page rent free and I love her because she’s also cringe

One of the worst things an adult can do is the peace symbol in a picture. 😷 The fact that this woman decided it was a good idea to bring that to a campaign leaves me speechless.

It is indeed at the level of cringe of Sabato. I would say he wouldn’t even dare to go that far. He can write his poems on Instagram BUT I don’t think he would be that cringe, sorry.

I can say Louise thread will be as epic as Sabatos.

 

[Avonlea]

She hasn't done a single show and I am already tired. Why does it have to be so serious? As if the real world wasn't depressing enough.

 

[oioioi]

It's quite an ok campaign in line with her personal pov, and that Kering wants to position BV like their Hermes without fashion as a capital F. Considering she skipped the Resort when she arrived, is focusing on the show for Sep, its just a few pieces the in-house team did to cover few merchandising needs, so it's releasing something she hasn't worked on.
I'm not particularly interested to see her tenure, but this campaign to me feels aligned with the circumstances.

 

[Lola701]

I can say Louise thread will be as epic as Sabatos.

The general consensus on TFS regarding most if not all the debut shows in Sep/Oct is that it will be trash anyway.
So likely, every one of them will be destroyed on here. It will either be epic or tiring on those threads.

 

[Royal-Galliano]

i can't with all these celebs. it's the same thing with magazine multicovers - if you don't have much to say, just pretend you do with ten different bland covers. it's forgettable and makes very little impact.

 

[Creative]

The general consensus on TFS regarding most if not all the debut shows in Sep/Oct is that it will be trash anyway.
So likely, every one of them will be destroyed on here. It will either be epic or tiring on those threads.

Let's say there's nothing very interesting on sight (JW at Dior aside).

Matthiew and his BV were kind of bland and lacked creative direction (I liked some of it though, but can someone like him do something interesting at Chanel?). Only time will tell.

Louise Trotter sneak peaks are AWFUL so far and what's worse, incredibly pretentious.

People are so, so, so tired of Demna and his silly gimmicks. Let's see what he can do at Gucci but I get why people are tired already of the idea.

PPP at Valentino was just cute garments, which is ok, but is someone like that enough for the house of the so-called best couturier of all times?

Michael Rider for Céline sneak peak looks like fast fashion.

Sarah Burton first steps at Givenchy have been dreadful. I didn't like her McQueen at all, but you would never find me anywhere spreading negative comments because it was kind of inoffensive (super corny, but inoffensive). Her Givenchy has been a total mess so far, and the Cannes red carpet.... omg, worst orchestrated image moves ever.

I think it's not that we are being negative for the sake of it, I think we are just getting those signs and kind of projecting them into the future.

 

[PDFSD]

the audience if i speak of TFS or even in general should not be doing the heavy lifting, you have means as in teams and backing and time and archives you can work bloody hard to get something perfect or amazing and blaming suits always is also not an issue for basic techibally bad made clothes or quality of idea or creativity suits don't block these things.

i don't subscribe to lazy or lack indesign, direction or lack in construction or lack in point of view, if i have to image how a collection has to be better..... means in my eyes its just not a good collection.
pre debut hints are again hints and if they did not want people to judge it! than keep everything underwraps till he or she is ready to show.

you can't drop hints and then be upset people start having doubts or feeling that are not in the Creative director brands favor.

we should also not forget all these clothes made we don't need them at these prices, so if something cost thousand of dollars or euro´s... it better be IT!

they continue like this AI will do the job for many of these brand because it looks already like badly generated designs.

i been in brands & on set in studios with celebs /talents and creative directors etc and you know when Creative directors or talents wing it on the job or don't listen to the non yes men or women in teams for sake of comfort etc and this results in sub pare creative works because they want to keep the meeting short because x person in charge like creative director need to take his appointment for his new villa refurbishment etc and is not focus to on the collection development as much....

brands are not your friends or lover etc its a one way relationship no matter how much you think you feel part of its idea story or aura.

i think society should be hyper critical of things that are being made and sold to use.......your always giving more than your actual getting back from brands any ways...... either your money or you data or your self worth etc

its all the wizard of Ozz any ways make believe grandeur ....its all not real

 

[Norden]

The problem is that this and many other brands have become elaborate merch for super rich people. The people interested in interesting fashion can’t afford this stuff like they used to. We can’t expect any interesting creative direction or product from these brands. What were going to get is stiff campaigns with pretentious storylines, stiff clothes, annoying stores filled with art and airport bags, overloaded crafty collections with minimal fillers to sell and that’s about it. I don’t think this Louise will be able to change anything or move the needle. I think this whole soft launch with celebs in Cannes and this stupid campaign already dilutes what little message she has in store for us. For someone like her, she should have started with a really nice fresh collection with cool clothes, modern and not overworked. Maybe it’s kering messing everything up behind the scenes?

 

[Lola701]

Do we need Bottega Veneta to move the needle of High Fashion?
Even if Daniel and Matthieu had some sort of influence over fashion, BV is not the brand we should expect fashion that will lead or shape The Fashion going forward.

Tbh, this is maybe the worst thing we could wish them as it is a Kering brand considering how much they seems to struggle with big success.

 

[PDFSD]

Do we need Bottega Veneta to move the needle of High Fashion?
Even if Daniel and Matthieu had some sort of influence over fashion, BV is not the brand we should expect fashion that will lead or shape The Fashion going forward.

Tbh, this is maybe the worst thing we could wish them as it is a Kering brand considering how much they seems to struggle with big success.

Do we need Bottega Veneta to move the needle of High Fashion?

Yes!!!!

or else we have loro piana already or hermes and cos and many other brands filling all the gaps in the market ...we have too many brands not doing anything worthy to even exist ...fresh water shortage is already being ramped up by Ai centers and fashion is already big polutor , planet is already not at its best state ......if you not doing something worthy then make space for others that do.

like many at LV nobody was waiting for innovation but NG did it in his own way even Marc at LV before him and LV is brown and boring luggage company yet look how big they are now and what they propose as fashion ..... same for Balenciaga, Comme or Helmut, Prada the fact is no body was or is waiting for any old or new brand to move the needle if we think about legitimacy of expectation.

BV via Kering put himself in the modern category and craft and forefront with hype fashion , we can't say now look away for expectations when the profited from hype after hype Lee and Blazy even before thomas they had hyped collections with the spray painted bags and styling by katy grand.

if one day Goyard started to expand in clothes i would have expectations as well for it to be something relevant under any type of concept they launch it in.

What is Bottega then ? is a better question i think people want a cross of timelessness and fashions authority nobody goes to BV now for no expectations shopping.

BV could be the size wise just behind Hermes why not!!? and still be whatever they wish it to be in quality or direction but they went to hype to fast and ist a fashion brand now not a craft luxury house like an - Hermes

it's just crappy what they doing to BV its not nurtured for the next 50 or 100 years Kering thinks short term fix now problems that brake in 3 years again.

 

[TomBlanksFullFatMiuMiu]

Do we need Bottega Veneta to move the needle of High Fashion?

Yes!!!!

or else we have loro piana already or hermes and cos and many other brands filling all the gaps in the market ...we have too many brands not doing anything worthy to even exist ...fresh water shortage is already being ramped up by Ai centers and fashion is already big polutor , planet is already not at its best state ......if you not doing something worthy then make space for others that do.

like many at LV nobody was waiting for innovation but NG did it in his own way even Marc at LV before him and LV is brown and boring luggage company yet look how big they are now and what they propose as fashion ..... same for Balenciaga, Comme or Helmut, Prada the fact is no body was or is waiting for any old or new brand to move the needle if we think about legitimacy of expectation.

BV via Kering put himself in the modern category and craft and forefront with hype fashion , we can't say now look away for expectations when the profited from hype after hype Lee and Blazy even before thomas they had hyped collections with the spray painted bags and styling by katy grand.

if one day Goyard started to expand in clothes i would have expectations as well for it to be something relevant under any type of concept they launch it in.

What is Bottega then ? is a better question i think people want a cross of timelessness and fashions authority nobody goes to BV now for no expectations shopping.

BV could be the size wise just behind Hermes why not!!? and still be whatever they wish it to be in quality or direction but they went to hype to fast and ist a fashion brand now not a craft luxury house like an - Hermes

it's just crappy what they doing to BV its not nurtured for the next 50 or 100 years Kering thinks short term fix now problems that brake in 3 years again.

So true 20 years ago BV wanted to be the Italian Hermes, many many quotes from style.com and Lisa Armstrong; but now they are competeing with Loewe or whatever fashionable brands, what a downgrade brand image wise

 

[Creative]

Indeed… Kering is clueless. They don’t have a plan. One day they want to be A the next day they want to be Z.

Also, this kind of super expensive campaigns do something for the brand? It’s just so many people that the message gets diluted.

 

[tricotineacetat]

The general consensus on TFS regarding most if not all the debut shows in Sep/Oct is that it will be trash anyway.
So likely, every one of them will be destroyed on here. It will either be epic or tiring on those threads.

Can’t say I would be sorry if most of the designers that will debut next season would flop, since I wasn’t satisfied with either one of these appointments.

Fashion has reached the rock bottom for me, Martens at Margiela, the Bally guy at Jil Sander, JWA for both men’s and women’s Dior, Rider at Celine, Demna for Gucci and Blazy for Chanel - I guess we should be thankful it wasn’t Jacquemus, after all…

The only thing I am hopeful for at this point is seeing how Haider’s Tom Ford will evolve from here on.