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Maria Grazia Chiuri - Designer

You think she's a better designer than Haider Ackermann?
I mean look at the red carpets. His clothes always look so wrinkled and cheap, impossible to iron. You think twice if you want to purchase expensive dress.

Her on another hand look sublime. Stitching and embroidery. WowZa!
 
Saying Dior sells more RTW than Vuitton is like saying Chanel sells more RTW than Hermes. As if brands can be compared in terms of their historic activities.

Anthony Vaccarello sold more RTW than Daniel Lee and Mathieu Blazy but is weaker as a designer.

Valentino is way smaller than Dior but PPP touched the world with his clothes.

What will be remembered from MGC’s? An overpriced tshirt with a sensationalist slogan and a book tote.
Her best idea? Relaunching the Saddle bag. It made a fortune for Dior menswear and womenswear.
Absolutely spot on!
 
I don’t understand the HATE towards her at all! Now seriously. I can understand that some of you don’t like her and most of you who do, gloryfy Daniel Lee & Haider Ackermann. 😳😳😳

First she IS a great designer. She did magnificent job together with PPP in Valentino.

She is still more sold than Nicolas Ghesquière in LV which makes her the most successful female designer currently.

She have all the hit bags while others are struggling to invent one.

She is NOT problematic while others have scandal after scandal.

And all of the stars who are wearing her Dior at red carpets usually look stunning.

I don’t understand is it a fact that you just can’t stand one WOMAN at big house that is good at what she does???

I want to hear facts not just kid answers as she repeats, copy, bla, bla. Fact is she doesn’t. High street brands are copying her at least I see her influence. Facts!!!
I will give her that many of her designs looked great on the red carpet, but I find she does not truly explore design. She only knows a handful of silhouettes, fabrics, colours. I don't really see her exploring compelling shapes and silhouettes, but when she does, you get SSHC25.

I think she is a better merchandiser than designer and not really a couturier. Dior needs a couturier.
 
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I mean look at the red carpets. His clothes always look so wrinkled and cheap, impossible to iron. You think twice if you want to purchase expensive dress.

Her on another hand look sublime. Stitching and embroidery. WowZa!
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My god, the debate over supposedly wrinkled duchess satin or puckered seams on said fabric never seems to grow old on this forum. 😅

I feel like this comparison between Maria Grazia and Haider is a pointless one. What she designed for Dior and Valentino is essentially polite and relatively conservative clothes that match the women that actually *buy* it in the stores. The criticism to her work mainly centers around that. She is conventional in taste so nothing is really anything else but pretty. No twist, no sense of experimentation or exaggerationnthat would create a moment of the unexpected.

Then on the other hand of the spectrum, there is Haider whose style is essentially the opposite - With sharp, tailoredlines, a masculine-feminine edge and contrasting colors. Over the majority of his career, Haider has been an independent niche talent, dressing edgy people for the most part.
 
My god, the debate over supposedly wrinkled duchess satin or puckered seams on said fabric never seems to grow old on this forum. 😅

I feel like this comparison between Maria Grazia and Haider is a pointless one. What she designed for Dior and Valentino is essentially polite and relatively conservative clothes that match the women that actually *buy* it in the stores. The criticism to her work mainly centers around that. She is conventional in taste so nothing is really anything else but pretty. No twist, no sense of experimentation or exaggerationnthat would create a moment of the unexpected.

Then on the other hand of the spectrum, there is Haider whose style is essentially the opposite - With sharp, tailoredlines, a masculine-feminine edge and contrasting colors. Over the majority of his career, Haider has been an independent niche talent, dressing edgy people for the most part.
Well said! ❤️
 
I Wonder if Delphine has fully considered and taken into account the risks of switching aesthetic at Dior in a period of great economical uncertainty. If I remember correctly, this is the first time a designer Who is known for great commercial success is asked to leave to create a new vision of the brand, even if the designer output is not underperforming. Getting Maria out and Jonathan in will imply a gradual (I suppose) discontinuining of Maria's Best sellers:
- J'adior slingbacks
- Book tote
- A line belted dresses
- Tulle / sheer high waisted skirts
- The Pietro Ruffo / artists alterations of the cachemire knit
- The saddle re-edition

Most People are taking Jonathan's success at Dior for granted but...I don't know, I'm skeptical. Dior customers have burgeouisized themselved very much under Maria's tenure and no one is going to buy drag Queen couture a la Galliano in 2025 (sorry Galliano lovers in here but we all know those couture Egyptian collections Did Not sell a single piece...). Jonathan will have to compromise his vision very much to maintain balance over the thinning line of basic merchandising and fashion savvyness.
 
I Wonder if Delphine has fully considered and taken into account the risks of switching aesthetic at Dior in a period of great economical uncertainty. If I remember correctly, this is the first time a designer Who is known for great commercial success is asked to leave to create a new vision of the brand, even if the designer output is not underperforming. Getting Maria out and Jonathan in will imply a gradual (I suppose) discontinuining of Maria's Best sellers:
- J'adior slingbacks
- Book tote
- A line belted dresses
- Tulle / sheer high waisted skirts
- The Pietro Ruffo / artists alterations of the cachemire knit
- The saddle re-edition

Most People are taking Jonathan's success at Dior for granted but...I don't know, I'm skeptical. Dior customers have burgeouisized themselved very much under Maria's tenure and no one is going to buy drag Queen couture a la Galliano in 2025 (sorry Galliano lovers in here but we all know those couture Egyptian collections Did Not sell a single piece...). Jonathan will have to compromise his vision very much to maintain balance over the thinning line of basic merchandising and fashion savvyness.
Preach it hun!!!

You are totally right!!!

I am telling this all along! What will he do, print frogs and pigeons on bags! Guuurl!!!
 
i think Jon is only coming bc dior hasnt had a good bag since the book tote which is now bag non grata. They are willing to compromise RTW for a hit handbag.

they always have the giant boutique collection called 30 Montaigne that they can wheel out in case Jon’s clothes flop and keep the MGC client happy.

I mean if they throw that whole 30 Montaigne away they will 100% alienate clients and send them to balenciaga.

She doesn’t get credit for the saddle reissue. LVMH pushed for that bc at the time the saddle was on fire on resale markets. Re releasing the saddle stopped that.

LVMH did the same thing w the murakami reissue. It was on fire on resale now it’s re released totally stopping that.
 
nah the dior customer today are just another breed of the hermes birkin/kelly girlies. They would buy anything with the dior tag. Nothing to do with MGC.
Uhm...I don't know. Dior is not CHANEL, that's for sure. Of course it's a status symbol brand, but it's undeniable sells skyrocketed under Maria. Had it not been for Maria, we would have the couture business unit almost going bankrupcy and showing in Avenue Montaigne ateliers to cut costs, just like under the very late Galliano years...
 
Dior has always sold because it is Dior, starting with Marc Bohan. Gianfranco Ferré, in many ways, was the spiritual predecessor to Maria Grazia Chiuri. I actually preferred Ferré. He stayed true to Dior’s codes, making only subtle variations.

That said, I think we’re a bit spoiled. These clothes are stunning, among the finest ever made. They are a testament to the craft of dressmaking. Maria achieved the extraordinary by making intricate construction look light as air.
 
I Wonder if Delphine has fully considered and taken into account the risks of switching aesthetic at Dior in a period of great economical uncertainty. If I remember correctly, this is the first time a designer Who is known for great commercial success is asked to leave to create a new vision of the brand, even if the designer output is not underperforming. Getting Maria out and Jonathan in will imply a gradual (I suppose) discontinuining of Maria's Best sellers:
- J'adior slingbacks
- Book tote
- A line belted dresses
- Tulle / sheer high waisted skirts
- The Pietro Ruffo / artists alterations of the cachemire knit
- The saddle re-edition

Most People are taking Jonathan's success at Dior for granted but...I don't know, I'm skeptical. Dior customers have burgeouisized themselved very much under Maria's tenure and no one is going to buy drag Queen couture a la Galliano in 2025 (sorry Galliano lovers in here but we all know those couture Egyptian collections Did Not sell a single piece...). Jonathan will have to compromise his vision very much to maintain balance over the thinning line of basic merchandising and fashion savvyness.
It is underperforming now vs previous years. And there’s a lot of brand fatigue between loyal customers.

J’adior, the book tote and even the saddle are super passé. The belong to minimum 5 years ago.

I think someone purchasing a Jadior in 2025 is a little bit lost tbh. The book tote is perfect for traveling, I hate from a fashion point of view but I like from a user point of view. It’s passé tho. You don’t see people carrying it as a daily bag anymore (too uncomfortable if you don’t put it on your Rimowa).

And in terms of old lines and new lines, sometimes they coexist. Although it’s difficult to imagine Jonathan redoing the Book Tote.
 
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