Matthieu Blazy - Designer, Creative Director of Chanel

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so Ancora Gucci omg 🤦‍♀️

 

[TomBlanksFullFatMiuMiu]

Zara with an Etsy made Chanel brooch
Where's the design? Where's the fantasy? Where's the aspiration? Where's the fashion?

 

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See, I’m different lol.
I can respect someone for their path, like someone for their taste, not care about their work or totally love their work.

For me Chanel is like a historical personnage. I can’t be invested in her personal life and my personal feelings about her.

But I admire the life she has made for herself and obviously the brand she has created.

I like Balenciaga’s work. I don’t care about his personality. I love Madame Gres’s work. I don’t care about her personality.

Those figures are too much of a staple for me to have a personal connection with them beyond their work.

With contemporary designers, it’s different.
I like NG, his work, his spirit and because I remember what it was like for him to work at Balenciaga particularly around the time Tom left, I’m enjoying the path.

I liked McQueen’s work but never liked the personnage. I like Galliano’s work but was never convinced by him as a person either.

And on a total flip, I loved Karl and Azzedine and equally loved their work for different reasons.

I was never a big big fan of Saint Laurent. I love certain periods of him, was never a fan of the persona either but have a huge respect for him.

I love Hedi, I love his vision, I love his menswear but I don’t like his work as a womenswear designer.

It’s never Black and White for me, so I don’t expect that from people. And I certainly don’t like to impose my POV on people. My opinion on a subject as large as fashion is not THE opinion. Just mine…

i speak about the correlation or quality between the creator´s mindset and creations but it's a hard subject to dissect and i need to research more into it inorder to write something clear headed as response in order to make my original point more clear.

its hard to like the work if you don't know the mind set behind it, it would be to much surface admiration of course not all brands have a deep or decisive creator behind them that's also true.

but i think regarding chanel ,coco came into the conversation because blazy try to piece a story /concept for the show around her not because its my personal interests to question what the founder and the company now should represent etc .

so since he open that page on her , one can dig deeper (not so deep lol because lazy blazy ) and analyze and if needed criticize his reinterpretation of her and this i think the video was going into why he came to this finding.

 

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what did i say nyc skyline of the PJ as intro lol ...lets see how more flesh of concept the rest of the intro´s will have

 

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A lot of fashion-focused channels nowadays have a really demanding, be-all-end-all approach in their columns. Which I find is kinda annoying and disturbing. Not just this creator, but a lot of them.

You may or may not like the clothes, collection, or even the whole tenure. But to do an entire video with that clickbait title for a guy who just presented a show, I’m sorry it’s just too much.
I mean MGC never feels comfortable with the classic New Look silhouette, that’s why her Bar jacket never looks convincing. But her other classic Dior silhouettes are really good, that’s why the clients embrace them.
As for Chanel, I’m pretty sure Karl and Coco are having an endless cat fight over how dare he present literally granny underwear, PVC, concrete couture, or even a supermarket under her name. I’m sure the divas are fighting wherever they are.
You can like or dislike the founder's personality but you have their but you have to embrace their work in order to modernize it and make it contemporary for today. That’s why I’m more indifferent with Lee at Givenchy than Matthieu at Chanel right now.


I know it just stands the right person, cause girl same.
I like Clare’s Givenchy so I know how you feel.

understitch is not anti Blazy you can hear his first thoughts in this part in the video...he is just researching and making questions which seem in todays world a crime ..
and again none of us seen the video so it's all speculation of the clickbait video picture.

 

[Lola701]

i speak about the correlation or quality between the creator´s mindset and creations but it's a hard subject to dissect and i need to research more into it inorder to write something clear headed as response in order to make my original point more clear.

its hard to like the work if you don't know the mind set behind it, it would be to much surface admiration of course not all brands have a deep or decisive creator behind them that's also true.

but i think regarding chanel ,coco came into the conversation because blazy try to piece a story /concept for the show around her not because its my personal interests to question what the founder and the company now should represent etc .

so since he open that page on her , one can dig deeper (not so deep lol because lazy blazy ) and analyze and if needed criticize his reinterpretation of her and this i think the video was going into why he came to this finding.

Hmm ok.
I mean it’s interesting that he took that story telling to approach Chanel.

Karl took from the jump a purely stylistic approach to build collections that actually were very much personal from the start. He always found a way to create a story but in reality he used justifications…The goal was as he said, to make believe.

But it will be interesting to see how his process will evolve as he gets used to the archives and comfortable with Karl’s legacy.

I feel like he is afraid to approach Karl for now and Coco is a bit of a safe approach. Most of Chanel customers or fan of fashion don’t have a knowledge in fashion that would make them attach something to Gabrielle’s work.

Karl’s work is still vivid on our memories…

But i think many or at least for me i judge to what i see so far, if it gets better i will change my opinion accordingly on the work produced.
its the same on NG hois early LV i liked and saw more of rigor and detailed approach to be real but also do something that pushed the LV customers boundaries. where is now i see ego self indulgent design..it's not a definitive overall statement on all of his work, its nauced to different era´s

I have to admit that it’s precisely what I like about NG’s work at Vuitton. I wouldn’t necessarily like what he is doing if he was operating on his own name. I don’t want to sound like a contrarian but there’s a guilty pleasure in seeing what he does for Vuitton.

The idea of a very commercial machine that can propose something that self indulgent. If you don’t do it there, you won’t do it elsewhere lol

What will define his time at Vuitton: La Petite Malle, the Soft trunk…etc. I always laugh at the hypocrisy a lot of people have towards Marc’s era because unfortunately, they only remember the collabs, and the shows. He did some fabulous clothes though.

So I have came to conclusion that maybe what NG is doing is just enough for Vuitton. His process may have changed because it’s obvious that he is not constructing silhouettes anymore, which is something that he did in the beginning, coming for Balenciaga.

Which seems online its impossible to analyze a era of a designers work means you are a hater or whatever.
I don't understand way critical thinking today is so vilified

I think if one love x person's work share more reasons to the nee sayer´s why the work speaks to you or is amazing but instead i see often attempts to shut down critical thinking or label people as a group like with Hedi etc.

I think it’s very difficult to have debates in an impersonal way like we have without having the feeling that someone is trying to change one’s opinion or at least to influence their way of thinking.

And that’s what a lot of debates here have been.

But I always come knowing that we have different opinions based on what we saw and the way we appreciated it. It won’t change because of each other arguments.

Maybe the problem with this thread is that I don’t learn enough things because I feel it’s passionate around the wrong reasons.

It’s not an attempt at critical thinking, sorry if it comes off that way. I love seeing argumented comments from members, and you do those comments greatly.

It’s just that sometimes when I see those argumented comments on a random outfit worn by a random celebrity for a 10th Redcarpet…Come on lol.

I feel like there’s not so much food for thought from Blazy and Chanel so far really. So graping little things.

At Dior and Gucci, we can talk strategy, the stores, campaigns, the clothes, the people they signed. There are more tangible things.

In Blazy’s thread we are talking about him hypothetically not liking Gabrielle lol. So maybe that’s why it seems like I’m trying to shut down people.

But I’m engaging see…🤭

 

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Hmm ok.
I mean it’s interesting that he took that story telling to approach Chanel.

Karl took from the jump a purely stylistic approach to build collections that actually were very much personal from the start. He always found a way to create a story but in reality he used justifications…The goal was as he said, to make believe.

But it will be interesting to see how his process will evolve as he gets used to the archives and comfortable with Karl’s legacy.

I feel like he is afraid to approach Karl for now and Coco is a bit of a safe approach. Most of Chanel customers or fan of fashion don’t have a knowledge in fashion that would make them attach something to Gabrielle’s work.

Karl’s work is still vivid on our memories…


I have to admit that it’s precisely what I like about NG’s work at Vuitton. I wouldn’t necessarily like what he is doing if he was operating on his own name. I don’t want to sound like a contrarian but there’s a guilty pleasure in seeing what he does for Vuitton.

The idea of a very commercial machine that can propose something that self indulgent. If you don’t do it there, you won’t do it elsewhere lol

What will define his time at Vuitton: La Petite Malle, the Soft trunk…etc. I always laugh at the hypocrisy a lot of people have towards Marc’s era because unfortunately, they only remember the collabs, and the shows. He did some fabulous clothes though.

So I have came to conclusion that maybe what NG is doing is just enough for Vuitton. His process may have changed because it’s obvious that he is not constructing silhouettes anymore, which is something that he did in the beginning, coming for Balenciaga.


I think it’s very difficult to have debates in an impersonal way like we have without having the feeling that someone is trying to change one’s opinion or at least to influence their way of thinking.

And that’s what a lot of debates here have been.

But I always come knowing that we have different opinions based on what we saw and the way we appreciated it. It won’t change because of each other arguments.

Maybe the problem with this thread is that I don’t learn enough things because I feel it’s passionate around the wrong reasons.

It’s not an attempt at critical thinking, sorry if it comes off that way. I love seeing augmented comments from members, and you do those comments greatly.

It’s just that sometimes when I see those argumented comments on a random outfit worn by a random celebrity for a 10th Redcarpet…Come on lol.

I feel like there’s not so much food for thought from Blazy and Chanel so far really. So graping little things.

At Dior and Gucci, we can talk strategy, the stores, campaigns, the clothes, the people they signed. There are more tangible things.

In Blazy’s thread we are talking about him hypothetically not liking Gabrielle lol. So maybe that’s why it seems like I’m trying to shut down people.

But I’m engaging see…🤭

i don't think NG is doing LV or NG for LV he is doing him 99% yes he incorporates the trunk and travel /time travel idea but the clients that buy LV are maybe closer to a marc mind set or even pharrell ...always something new and loud and rich looking universally understood fashion no intelect just fun and status and limited even.
the homework was making LV fashion forward and not a secretary brand, self indulgent can be great it does not to be so jarringly ugly and costume and directionless sci fi channel on replay.
also if you see the clothes they don't move well with the body the work against the body also the cuts and construction are not precise, it's almost like its make believe and behind the stage its just sandbags and empty stage construction for a facade for a movie scene.

just below some details where you can see pattern cutting and fit & choices of fabric and detail construction is bad cheap not done with care or detailed or wrong knit gage has been used or cheapest fur uts used or leather appliques are just basic and flat not adding dept , wonky bra because bad fir and wrong fabric etc it all looks childish



I disagree on blazy as in whatever we see that comes out of his chanel is breakfast lunch dinner served ...its all part of the menu snacks included so each part gets to be scrutinized rightfully so because it all part of his expression as a creative directors work commercial and capsules red carpets etc.
If not we should not write anything here plus nor contra and come back in 3 years and analyze the work lol

I am personally not into to changing others opinion i just see the opposite arguments as a challenge to refine my idea or ways to show the opposite might be true etc or if there is facts i can find or show to show them......but my point was the labeling or silencing of others that don't share the same or favorable opinion like oh people on here are just blazy haters or just looking to find another thing to hate.
while maybe the reality is he keeps making things /steps at chanel to not like!!! can also be the reality for most etc

the red carpet thing is part of the whole menu its silly and i don't think people are super invested in it ...me personally i think the collections and brand direction etc is more important , but also at the same time its about clothes and clothes belong on people so its part of the process of discussion i see it as normal good bad and the ugly comments.

my stick is simple : i like well made clothes done by creative directors that have a complete and strong unique vision for a brand and i like brands to have a holistic approach to brand building and execution thats my exercise on her as discussion points.

i despise superficiality and lack of quality in fashion, i learn that the more you make space for these 2 things its the beginning of the end of this art from and i think in any job its the same.

 

[Frederic01]

VANITY FAIR

 

[Lola701]

Hmm…
Predictable but At least he is fashionable and out there…

So they have in total 3 men ambassadors. No more Gucci, Saint Laurent and Dior in public appearances for him.

 

[psychopsist]

Come on, Coco just wanted her business back at that time if I really remember well since I am not her biggest fan. To defend her or not, what sins she did at her time was mild compared to the atrocities that global elites did in the past two years. And from what I have read here, it is inevitably for people to compare the founder with the new one especially when most people don't like the work of the current CD. Whatever the hatred toward Coco as a person cannot deviate from the fact her being a revolutionary designer that Matt will never be. If people would bring up the so-called "horrible" founder, it is simply because the new CD really sucks.

Sorry for being late, holiday and all. That said while I appreciate your perspective it just doesn’t feel like it matches the actual flow of conversation that occurred. No one here randomly brought up Coco to complain about her being a terrible person- it was proposed that perhaps Matthieu himself isn’t fond of her, and a frankly small handful of messages commented on that theory. If you read it again, Lola’s reply(which I think is what you read as very critical of Coco) was actually pointing out that in her opinion this kind of speculation isn’t very relevant to the collection. You can also note I did not label Miss Chanel as anything either. So as I said all the defense and deflection to “the global elites” seems unnecessary.

But that’s all, we can move on now. I don’t want to get stuck in that ‘having a conversation about a conversation’ place. But I do feel it’s fit to reply.

 

[TurkicMongol]

Sorry for being late, holiday and all. That said while I appreciate your perspective it just doesn’t feel like it matches the actual flow of conversation that occurred. No one here randomly brought up Coco to complain about her being a terrible person- it was proposed that perhaps Matthieu himself isn’t fond of her, and a frankly small handful of messages commented on that theory. If you read it again, Lola’s reply(which I think is what you read as very critical of Coco) was actually pointing out that in her opinion this kind of speculation isn’t very relevant to the collection. You can also note I did not label Miss Chanel as anything either. So as I said all the defense and deflection to “the global elites” seems unnecessary.

But that’s all, we can move on now. I don’t want to get stuck in that ‘having a conversation about a conversation’ place. But I do feel it’s fit to reply.

If Blazy is not fond of her personality, it is fine like Lola said, but if he is not fond of her aesthetic, work anywhere else! When it comes to referring horrible people, any sentient beings will immediately think about those people commiting atrocities in the past two years and there is no need to defend them.

 

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i regret posting about that video that nobody actually seen 🤦‍♀️

 

[TurkicMongol]

i regret posting about that video that nobody actually seen 🤦‍♀️

Haha, I am not a big enough Chanel fan to watch an 1hr video, but I really enjoy reading everything you write. We love you as we always do!

 

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Haha, I am not a big enough Chanel fan to watch an 1hr video, but I really enjoy reading everything you write. We love you as we always do!

hehe understandable but i meant the other video: its the why blazy dislikes coco based of his selection of themes in his first collection video, that one is shorter and members only video , and what started the debate on if blazy does dislike her etc

but none of us paid to see it so i found it speculative since none of us did the research to see it therefore to actually go in on understitch if he made fair points or not etc

merci cheri coco
2 more days till new lazy chanel show hopefully we will love it because its so good.....but i would not bet my bitcoins on it lol

 

[Monsieur Cristobal]

Blazy restyled the cruise for the online look book looks evidently the ST JOHN of it all is here to stay 🤭
and ofcourse we have the popped collar again back from the 80´s lol
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To add a little bit more of chaos to the conversation, may I say that I like this? 🤭
So much better than the absolutely mediocre previous lookbook.

 

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[Snejana Onopka]

after watching this video i cant help but find almost endearing how allergic to glamour blazy is

 

[psychopsist]

I mean, it was hilarious and kind of adorable at the end. But the Fourth of July jacket and scarlet pajamas aren’t convincingly Chanel, which makes it hard for me to fall into the world. I wouldn’t go to the butcher with the best garden, you know?

I am Interested to see the show though, of course.

 

[LadyJunon]

The Youtube version:


For those wondering about those pictures of ASAP and Qualley, it's for this. The video is so silly, but in a really cute way. The frantic sped-up footage, ASAP swimming across a river, the instant costume changes, the surrealism with the train scenes. I love it so much.

The outfits are quite interesting too. The silhouette of her "day outfit" is very Lagerfeld, with the marked, but not broad shoulder and the oversized pant legs. Meanwhile, her ornate sleepdress is typical Blazy (Bottega Veneta FW'22/FW'23), ASAP's outfits might be a nod to that same BV show.

after watching this video i cant help but find almost endearing how allergic to glamour blazy is

Most of his generation (JWA, Trotter, Sabato and Demna) are. I'll admit that Blazy leans more to a quotidian romanticism, making his collection feel more nostalgic and less grotesque.

 

[LadyJunon]

The link to the show stream: