Michael Rider - Designer, Creative Director of Celine

[Irere]

I fear it could probably be a hybrid between Slimane/Philo

Phlimane!

 

[PDFSD]

I don't understand how Polo is the McDonalds of fashion, first of all. We'll have to actually see a collection before hating, plus his background is solid, so why not?

Polo Mcdonalds i think was meant as in its mainstream and readily available and american , but i like RL /polo its iconic :-)

I am more intrigued on the Michael Rider solid background conversation, that was also a discussion back then when it was rumored, i am not so sure based on his output at RL and his personal taste/interest he will produce something sharp and directional but time will tell ofcourse we will have to wait and see.

Non the less I think it's fair to be skeptical as well prior to seeing something , as its equally ok to be hopeful prior to seeing the actual results.

History has proven that peedegree at a brand for 10 year while it was successful is not a guarantee for success as a solo Creative director.
Being part of a team and contributing to the creative directors vision, is like being a link in the chain with many more links.
Meaning its a the chemistry between a team member and the makes often for a moment in time as well take away some people , some farewell other less .

Some people are good at delegating under a set style and aesthetic and flourish others are questioning the brand or creative director taste and aesthetic by bring new ideas every season with in the team.

We will see what type of talent michael rider is and what his contribution was in the design depart and how much comes from his own personal take.

its just not so black and white someones CV/experience background

 

[blueorchid]

Lowkey… I’ve hated Polo ever since they discontinued the one type of no show sock I like. 😡🤬

 

[Xone]

 

[grimm]

According to Lauren Sherman, he's already shot a campaign. He must have started a while ago!

 

[tourbillions]

why does he look like the coldplay singer

 

[miumeow]

So where's Hedi going now is the true question.

 

[tourbillions]

So where's Hedi going now is the true question.

no where he doesnt need to go anywhere. he has exhausted his fashion ideas. maybe he can build a slimane brand since so many people are apparently following where he is going.

 

[Lola701]

So where's Hedi going now is the true question.

Let’s let the man rest, enjoy his millions for some months first.

 

[miumeow]

He is getting closer to retirement age tbf. I always assumed he would be one of those Karl-like forces that would just never stop.

 

[Xone]

He is getting closer to retirement age tbf. I always assumed he would be one of those Karl-like forces that would just never stop.

He is not an accountant, so retirement age in fashion means nothing...you have Miuccia, Armani and some others in other fields....

 

[Xone]

According to Lauren Sherman, he's already shot a campaign. He must have started a while ago!

What she said exactly?....

 

[NYLA22]

I think what a lot of people don't understand about working at RL is that in America, there aren't a ton of opportunities for cool, talented designers to work at a very chic/cutting-edge brand. So you get a lot of people with amazing taste working at Ralph Lauren who are there because they don't really have the option to work at LVMH or Kering, etc. companies. The point being, it's hard to judge the personal taste of any designer working at RL, if that makes sense. It is a very structured company and Ralph (the person) has always been an authoritarian when it comes to the aesthetic of everything within the company.

 

[Lola701]

He is getting closer to retirement age tbf. I always assumed he would be one of those Karl-like forces that would just never stop.

Tbh, Hedi can work for 30 years again if he wants. When you are doing your passion or something that interests you, it’s not work. But maybe he will become a full time photographer or publish books or things like that.
The beauty about creative jobs is that the possibilities are endless and the beauty about Europe and France in particular, is that there’s no such a thing as ageism when the work is relevant.

 

[Xone]

Tbh, Hedi can work for 30 years again if he wants. When you are doing your passion or something that interests you, it’s not work. But maybe he will become a full time photographer or publish books or things like that.
The beauty about creative jobs is that the possibilities are endless and the beauty about Europe and France in particular, is that there’s no such a thing as ageism when the work is relevant.

Exactly...

 

[miumeow]

He is not an accountant, so retirement age in fashion means nothing...you have Miuccia, Armani and some others in other fields....

yes but in reality that's high-key toxic to devote so much time of your life to a job. I get it with Miuiccia and Giorgio - those are their own brands/ family heritage - they will always be involved one way or another. And as far as Karl is concerned, he didn't have much of a personal life so fashion was all he lived for.

 

[tourbillions]

high-key toxic to devote so much time of your life to a job

were talking about a creative job... its usually more toxic to stop doing it than to continue.

 

[jeremydante]

He is the third American to take on Céline, after Michael Kors (1997-2003) and Roberto Menichetti (2004-2005). Fact check me if I am wrong, but according to quick research this is true.

I am looking forward to what he does. I hope he re-establishes the accented é.
Just glad we've been saved from Hedi's redundancy.

 

[PDFSD]

Karl´s work and social life and time off (social life for normies lol) and interests /passions was all intertwined.

To say he did not have a personal life (having a husband/lover or kids is not for everyone) is crazy because he was always traveling and with people he loved to have around or either worked with all mixed.

Imagine your joy is doing all the things you love to do: design clothes, photographing, designing home, seeing your princess friend in Monaco for the Ballet show you did the clothes for, attending exhibitions you curated, constant privat dinners with people you like to have around you, flying private back to work , shopping books & art collect things for all your homes, sell homes and buy and redo new ones, personal driver and 24 hrs service butlers and maid next door to your house so they don't disturb you while your home only when you need them ...nanny for your cat .. publishing books, being interviewed entertaining people etc etc

Work and social life separate is for the average folks, at certain levels deals or ideas are made at dinner or golfing or vacations even it all depends on your lifestyle.

Karl himself said he is doing what he likes in the best conditions that there is, so let's not paint his life like he suffered for his art the boy was born spoiled and good for him.

His goal was to never be a permanent reality in people lives, too depend on or them on him......no responsibilities was the goal in his personal life.

The guy lived as he wished period!

 

[PDFSD]

He is the third American to take on Céline, after Michael Kors (1997-2003) and Roberto Menichetti (2004-2005). Fact check me if I am wrong, but according to quick research this is true.

I am looking forward to what he does. I hope he re-establishes the accented é.
Just glad we've been saved from Hedi's redundancy.

I hope he re-establishes the accented é. .........they will have to change all the packaging and labels and storefronts is an unnecessary expense without guarantee of him bring further success to the brand he won't be aloud for a few years to to this as Saint Laurent.

You must know but forgot lol .....Celine had many years also no accent 70´s 80´s even 90's it's not a Hedi invention stop giving him so much created for something already part of the brand history.