Michael Rider - Designer, Creative Director of Celine

[yslforever]

What yslforever said, basically, haha.

Pajama pants are generally more lightweight with focus on comfort and for indoor use only (sleeping or lounging around) while sweatpants prioritize warmth, and while they can be for lounging around they’re mainly for super casual wear to run errands in or the gym, etc.

It’s also not socially acceptable to wear pajama pants in public.

Also Celine - Celine by Hedi - was among the last brand I expected to offer loungewear and pajamas, the most basic pajamas, for a quick cash grab.
I do understand Dolce & Gabbana offering their version of deluxe embellished or embroidered pajamas, playing with the codes, wearing them with dinner jackets or with a big fur coat. I do understand the fun of it, the playfullness, it's totally fine at Dolce & Gabbana

But Celine by Hedi was the contrary of D&G, they were not playing with the codes, they were defining and enforcing the codes, strict codes for menswear, again and again, to the point many here called it repetitive.
I just can't accept them renouncing their own principles. Just what is left of them now ?

 

[PDFSD]

Are they not made of cotton sweatpants material? The white ones don't look like it but the black ones do.

What's the distinction? Fabric thickness?

Celine Straight-leg Embellished Jersey Track Pants Cream​

Crafted from premium jersey fabric.

 

[PDFSD]

What yslforever said, basically, haha.

Pajama pants are generally more lightweight with focus on comfort and for indoor use only (sleeping or lounging around) while sweatpants prioritize warmth, and while they can be for lounging around they’re mainly for super casual wear to run errands in or the gym, etc.

It’s also not socially acceptable to wear pajama pants in public.

It’s also not socially acceptable to wear pajama pants in public.

in milan etc more cosmopolitan cities or rich folks holiday destinations in certain circle a chic PJ old school style is socially acceptable like prada does them for years

of just the PJ shirt for guys like the hermes one below etc

not my thing but its common for years now

 

[99 Percent Polyester]

It’s also not socially acceptable to wear pajama pants in public.

in milan etc more cosmopolitan cities or rich folks holiday destinations in certain circle a chic PJ old school style is socially acceptable like prada does them for years

of just the PJ shirt for guys like the hermes one below etc

not my thing but its common for years now

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Ooh, interesting. I was unaware of this; learn something new every day.

I don't like it 💀

 

[PDFSD]

Ooh, interesting. I was unaware of this; learn something new every day.

I don't like it 💀

lets say not all PJ´s are created equal in LA you have lots of bad examples of celebrities in PJ´s and slippers stepping out of cars lol

i do get it if your going to a film set etc your going to sit 2-3 hours in make up why dress up just for 3 steps from your car lol

then there are lots of cashmere fine knit PJ airpost dressing going on for privat or first class passengers pre boarding to be comfortable but dressy



i think its what they try to sell also at celine now drawstring trousers IN CASHMERE FLANNEL for 2150 USD lol

 

[yslforever]

lets say not all PJ´s are created equal in LA you have lots of bad examples of celebrities in PJ´s and slippers stepping out of cars lol

i do get it if your going to a film set etc your going to sit 2-3 hours in make up why dress up just for 3 steps from your car lol

then there are lots of cashmere fine knit PJ airpost dressing going on for privat or first class passengers pre boarding to be comfortable but dressy

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i think its what they try to sell also at celine now drawstring trousers IN CASHMERE FLANNEL for 2150 USD lol

And there are plenty of those in fine cashmere and vigogne at Cuccinelli.
But from Celine ? not so long ago Celine was pushing little lords Fauntleroys in their public school uniform on their family estate, and a cortege of blacks suits in black cadillacs in the most grandiose landscape, not basic Uniqlo designs rebranded for the one-percenters.
Fast-fashion is supposed to copy high fashion, not the other way
I am not sorry to admit I have an elitist take on taste and to demand houses and designers to at least pretend to care.

 

[HigthaVandah]

Hum the one I posted are cashmere flannels, so like lounge wear.
Sweatpants are sportswear, so cotton or a cotton-mix or technical fabric, to be washed easily, even though I doubt anyone who bought those celine-crotch sweatpants actually used them in a gym.
But I would not be caught dead in sweatpants or pajamas in public so I don't know much more.

Sounds interchangeable to me, but far be it from me to tell Ryan Gosling how to dress.

 

[PDFSD]

And there are plenty of those in fine cashmere and vigogne at Cuccinelli.
But from Celine ? not so long ago Celine was pushing little lords Fauntleroys in their public school uniform on their family estate, and a cortege of blacks suits in black cadillacs in the most grandiose landscape, not basic Uniqlo designs rebranded for the one-percenters.
Fast-fashion is supposed to copy high fashion, not the other way
I am not sorry to admit I have an elitist take on taste and to demand houses and designers to at least pretend to care.

i agree 100000% i am same not sorry at all to : have an elitist take on taste and to demand houses and designers to at least pretend to care.

 

[Nimsay]

Well its been time. The celine factory is in NW Spain. I stayed in Bilbao and drove out to visit…

The manufacturer behind some of Celine had a showroom inside their factory, filled with leather-wrapped accoutrements, exactly the kind of pieces Celine now sells. They showcased SLGs, wallets, flower-shaped paperweights, womens and mens ready to wear shoes and bags, all laid out in a space that was far from a typical showroom. It featured a veneered heart of walnut and exquisite finishes throughout. The quality of the pieces I inspected there was exceptional, deeply informed by Spanish leather heritage, with techniques like tooling, beading, embroidery, and studs set with semi-precious stones, plus wire embroidery on velvet.

During the tour, they specifically bragged about their silk processes, highlighting the precision and complexity involved in printing and finishing. Many of the bag shapes on display in the showroom were essentially vintage Louis Vuitton - like an old-school Noé done in whipstitched leopard ponyhair or a Speedy done in denim embroidered with degrade swarovski crystals. Silhouettes similar to the LV Cles were also shown. They had an entire section dedicated to chains and straps, and another large section filled with belts and buckles. The amount of charms they had was stunning from matte black letters and numbers to mirror finish medallions with pave crystal they could be made to be attached to anything - they had them on bag handles, on keyfobs…

This new era of Celine feels entirely factory driven. Every specialty of this manufacturer is on full display: SLGs, silk prints, belts, chains, charms, and all the signature extras. I wonder how much of this was designed by the manufacturer because they had their own design team and I saw the work they do for other brands. I mean that Celine letter opener is literally a white labeled product.

as i said before i saw celine triomphe slgs being hand finished. Saw rolls of poplin being produced to later be turned into a Hedi informed button down that I saw the entire size range on a rail. I was impressed they timed a mens product to when I was visiting - demonstrating their command over manufacturing.