Number (N)ine F/W 06.07 Paris

Well, once bitten twice shy.
After the Axl fiasco, a safe color and spot on styling was in order.
I would wear 90% of the collection, and I like the take on current trends.
Beautiful hardware.
Extremely wearable and who cares who came out with "it" first. Design is evolution and here it's given a slight spin. I don't walk around with RAF or DIOR tatooed around my neck so this is another great source.
 
Gosh, I want those cropped trousers with military buttons...and the long wrap hoodie:heart:
 
beetlejuice, thanks for bringing in the pics.. lucky you to have wsgn

like others said, i dont see this as too original, but its ok.. the cloaks are certainly getting my vote
 
Beautiful. Regardless of the originality, I love it.

Big thanks to Bettlejuice for all the pictures. :flower:
 
baklanyc said:
I like this a lot as a customer. There are a lot of pieces I would buy and wear immediately. But as a collection, it looks like (as someone else posted before) too much of what we've seen from others before from Cloak and Raf Simons (that hoodie cape in particular), amon others. But knowing Taka's quality workmanship, I KNOW it will be better made than Cloak and Raf Simons, both of whom have had spotty production issues. Taka's production has always been impeccable, and consequiently, his prices are commensurately high. I guess I'll be saving up...!

Agree!
The details and cut looks nice, but in terms of originality, it is..., anyway, it already look like this when it started in Japan in terms of "look".
 
i really like them.. very wearable but like ppl have said before ... very cloak/raf/CCP? theres a jacket sweatshirt hybrid that is literally the same piece as an old CCP one i know.. but still i have to say..i like it and i would wear a lot of it.. excluding those cloaks.. hmmm thanks for the note on the quality... not original but wearable is my overall judgement..
 
tricotineacetat said:
I think it is rather a lack of own identity that doesn´t make this a real winner for me (even though it is lightyears better than most of the Milanese shows)... I see everything from Raf Simons, Dior Homme, Cloak, even Rick Owens in this collection, and even though these are all pretty good names to tap inspirations from, it still doesn´t make it "theirs".

As for the actual looks, the monochrome palette keeps this all pretty wearable, it is BY FAR better than their Axl Rose inspired S/S which was just a big mess IMHO. Most of these clothes I would definitely wear, but don´t ask if I´d also pay for it...:innocent:

Absolutely agreed. Took the words right out of my mouth, each and every one of them :lol::flower:. This has got to be the most derivative collection I've EVER seen :shock::doh:.

I have to say though - I would definitely wear this, but not for the prices they demand. There are (very) few original pieces, like the blazer with buttoned detachable sleeves - that looks fresh.
 
baklanyc said:
I like this a lot as a customer. There are a lot of pieces I would buy and wear immediately. But as a collection, it looks like (as someone else posted before) too much of what we've seen from others before from Cloak and Raf Simons (that hoodie cape in particular), amon others. But knowing Taka's quality workmanship, I KNOW it will be better made than Cloak and Raf Simons, both of whom have had spotty production issues. Taka's production has always been impeccable, and consequiently, his prices are commensurately high. I guess I'll be saving up...!

That's interesting - I have found nothing to rave about NN in terms of his quality. I would agree that it's better than Cloak, of course, but Raf's better pieces, and especially his wool, have always been top notch (except maybe last season, but they were so intricate that I'm sure he had to compromise in terms of quality to keep the prices palatable)...
 
faust said:
That's interesting - I have found nothing to rave about NN in terms of his quality. I would agree that it's better than Cloak, of course, but Raf's better pieces, and especially his wool, have always been top notch (except maybe last season, but they were so intricate that I'm sure he had to compromise in terms of quality to keep the prices palatable)...
I've got a different experience. I've tried on Raf's pieces - wool or not - for the past two years (about 4 seasons), that I've disliked because of the kinds of wool he uses or the constructions and fits he favors. I recently rejected buying some o the old Raf hoodie capes from two falls ago because I didn't love the material or sizing. Plus last season's production fiasco just took it over the edge, and this season, a suit button broke in half as I was trying it on at the store! I thought about quietly returning it to the the rack, but then I realized, the jacket is over a $1000 dollars (for cotton) and the button broke as I buttoned it? I took it to an SA immediately and glared.

Meanwhile, if you're talking about N(N) stuff that has reached the United States in the past two seasons that he started showing in Europe, I'll admit there isn't too much to see. But it's often the details you don't see that are damn amazing.

I have stuff from Taka as far as 1996 that is leagues over a lot of *designer* things I own in terms of quality production and cut, as well as current stuff I've seen that never made it to the US but were available only in his Japanese stores. His cuts on many shirts and jackets may look simpler in silhouette, but coming from a fashion background as I do, I really appreciate the tailoring on some of the pieces being so intricate and detailed it was actually a wonder he could charge as low as he did. And I am not talking about buttons and strips of fabrics added, I'm talking multipanelling construction on traditionally one-seam areas that would send production houses into tearing their hair off; hardware and linings that are custom-made and change with every season, and seam details so intricate as to defy any sort of alteration, because the construction was so unusual that the tailors here could not replicate it ("X" seam details on the elbows of a cotton shirt, for example, to shape the sleevefacing! He's insane.). And even his shoes are pretty incredible, with details like rabbit fur lining in the inside of his already multiple material shoes (this past fall, from the Tokyo store) that can only be seen when you cross your legs. I like some of Raf's stuff more in terms of silhouette, but really, I've never seen anything he's done that made me marvel at his tailoring skills (despite overlooking recent shoddy production).

I recently bought one of Taka's heavier cotton turtlenecks from spring and accidentally left it in my laundry pile. Despite being wash and dried in the machines by my cleaning lady, it held up beautifully and didn't shrink a wit. I have N(N) corduroy jeans from 1997 that I wash constantly despite the leather piping details and the "Dry Clean Only" labels, and they look better than some of the European designer stuff out there brand new. I may not love some of the styles from recent collections (the Axl Rose one was just mind bogglingly strange) but N(N)'s quality has been impeccable in my experience. :flower:
 
/\ Cool. I want to see that stuff. What are you doing tonight? :D^_^
 
I agree with what's already been said. It's nice, but I wouldn't pay for it either.
 
Echoing the Raf/DH/Cloak comparisons and the "looks really great and I'd wear it" comments.
 
Im madly and utterly in love with the pants from this collection ... i saw a couple of really nice jackets ... the problem is ITS ALL BLACK!

That's a color I dont wear ... *sigh* ... Whatever!
 
LOVE IT!!!!! All black all FABULOS!!!!! Really waiting for next fall nad winter all the great collections from everyone!
 
Thanks for that in-depth explanation of the quality and processes behind N(N)'s production, bakla...this might sound weird, but that post was kind of beautiful. Karma for you, and now I really wanna see some of those pieces in your closet.
 
Has anyone else noticed that he recycled those skull necklaces from S/S 06? :rolleyes:

:buzz:

Love it.. i am definitely going to buy it....

... Love the sinister & goth mood.. :heart:

Amazing boots and jackets... :woot:

First time i've ever seen a flawless collection.. from any designer..
 
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