Peter Copping - Designer, Creative Director of Lanvin

[Lola701]

It’s a mess. But Lanvin, Sergio Rossi and Wolford are rather interesting brand to have in a portfolio.

My question is will it impact the production and shipment of Peter’s first collection to the stores and retailers?

 

[style_expert]

Maybe it's for the best. I hope they sell Lanvin to a party that at least knows what they're doing!

 

[LadyJunon]

That's quite unfortunate to hear. The brand has been mismanaged for so long, but I really think that Lanvin (and Copping) deserves to succeed.

 

[tourbillions]

hopefully not to revolve... vauthier looks so cheap and department store now

 

[Phuel]

That's quite unfortunate to hear. The brand has been mismanaged for so long, but I really think that Lanvin (and Copping) deserves to succeed.

Interesting.

Other more worthy talents deserve to succeed— Alexandre Vauthier always comes to mind, while other lesser talents (so many) are flourishing. But who is more deserving all depends on who is most popular: The industry has always been high school society in its mindset and roots, and thus always unfair. Peter isn’t the worst of the lessers, and he’s far from the best of the greats, frankly. Had to look up his Lanvin to be reminded what his was all about LOL

And having just looked up his Lanvin, the women’s separates are solid enough-- as potential wardrobe essential add-ons for the Khaite/The Row/Proenza customer. Unfortunate that not a peep of hype is invested in this so it’ll likely just silently limp along if they’re lucky— or more likely, fall by the wayside. Doesn’t help that the men’s is insufferably useless: Just Truman Capote twinks dressed in the women’s basics wrangled together last minute with the styling cop of Bottega. No middle age gays and twink is going to be interested in these nondescript, nonevent basics-- and they would be the only potential customer for his menswear. And Peter’s that sort of designer who may be hard to connect with to the current fashion era: He’s too experienced, skilled, even pragmatic for what the children are drawn to. But he’s also too middle-of-the-road, lacking that allure, lacking the identity, even the charm, to convince a loyal dedicated customer to spend (if I were a women, I’d rather snatch up Khaite). Again, his women’s is fine enough fodder— but, if it’s never seen again, no one would bat a lash. It all just lack desirability. And WTF with those mandated, desperate-for-attention circa1985 black and gold Christmas wrapping paper dresses for the finale LMFAO

 

[LadyJunon]

And having just looked up his Lanvin, the women’s separates are solid enough-- as potential wardrobe essential add-ons for the Khaite/The Row/Proenza customer. Unfortunate that not a peep of hype is invested in this so it’ll likely just silently limp along if they’re lucky— or more likely, fall by the wayside. Doesn’t help that the men’s is insufferably useless: Just Truman Capote twinks dressed in the women’s basics wrangled together last minute with the styling cop of Bottega. No middle age gays and twink is going to be interested in these nondescript, nonevent basics-- and they would be the only potential customer for his menswear. And Peter’s that sort of designer who may be hard to connect with to the current fashion era: He’s too experienced, skilled, even pragmatic for what the children are drawn to. But he’s also too middle-of-the-road, lacking that allure, lacking the identity, even the charm, to convince a loyal dedicated customer to spend (if I were a women, I’d rather snatch up Khaite). Again, his women’s is fine enough fodder— but, if it’s never seen again, no one would bat a lash. It all just lack desirability. And WTF with those mandated, desperate-for-attention circa1985 black and gold Christmas wrapping paper dresses for the finale LMFAO

In all honesty, you're not wrong. The womenswear is solid, but it's very much a "supproting character", which is good for a brand stabilisation, but awful for a brand reboot. Elbaz stood out, Ossendrjver stood out, Sialleli was messy and was forced through many changes, but he stood out. Lanvin isn't necessarily a house that is avant-garde or radical, but it is unapologetically opulent, colourful and larger than life.

 

[TomBlanksFullFatMiuMiu]

The fit of these clothes...... say no more......

 

[LadyJunon]

The fit of these clothes...... say no more......

Ew.

 

[IsabelMarantBoy]

That suit makes him look 3 feet tall! What happened? His Nina Ricci was beautiful

 

[Cocteau Stone]

The bomber I don’t hate as much as I thought I would, I think it just looks like pyjamas…

That suit though. The waist tailoring to length is so off. I’d also say the lapel break point is too high? With the p*ssy bow, Jeremy seems like he’s choking. It’s not poorly made, just so strangely cut.

 

[LadyJunon]

That suit makes him look 3 feet tall! What happened? His Nina Ricci was beautiful

Easy. His NR never included menswear. You can see the difference in experience here. The dress on the left is well shaped and drapes nicely on the wearer's body while the outfit on the right hangs like a sack with complete disregard on the body wearing it.

 

[tricotineacetat]

I don’t mind the two custom looks - They are very much in the style of Haider Ackermann, whose tailoring also wasn’t always without flaws in proportion. Yes, the button placement on the suit isn’t ideal and that’s a little too much shiny silk in not-so-easy colors to pull off but it’s okay as a first try in menswear - The tailoring and overall execution is there, although I highly doubt regular Lanvin suits will have hand-stitched button holes. The other menswear look with the embroidered shirt I find much more problematic, both in style and execution…

Coppin

 

[TomBlanksFullFatMiuMiu]

The bomber I don’t hate as much as I thought I would, I think it just looks like pyjamas…

That suit though. The waist tailoring to length is so off. I’d also say the lapel break point is too high? With the p*ssy bow, Jeremy seems like he’s choking. It’s not poorly made, just so strangely cut.

The sleeves are too short