Prada indicates selling off JIL SANDER AG

Andro said:
I read somewhere that she had an affaire years ago with Wolfgang Joop - two plastic surgery sirens together !!!
I know for a fact that this rumor is untrue. Don't ask why but I just know.... Even though I would just love to spill the beans! I'm sure Ms. Sander would be so mad she could make the softest, most subtle leather hangbag out of my bare flesh.

I got it from an interview with her in Arena Homme Plus , some years ago . I have it somewhere , but I cannot put my hands on it right now .

There was also an underlying assumption , not stated outright , that she was lesbian .

This may or may not be true , and I'm certainly not being judgemental or homophobic - just stating what I read .

She is , for sure , a remarkable woman and I hope she makes a comeback very soon .

She was , during her hiatus at Prada , considered for the women's designer role at Hermes , certainly her spiritual home for sheer luxury , but as Martin Margiela did not want to leave , nothing came of it .
 
Andro said:
Can we go back to the Much Jil Sander fashion? maybe her archives... its just that there is so little personal information known about this 'Methodical' designer it brings much thought to my curiousity.

Me too. Because I think in order to understand her fashion you have to understand as well herself. Her believes and lifestyle. After all, she must have taken her creative ideas form somewhere. And even here in Germany, there is not a lot published about her as a person and private life. She used to control very well what the German press would write about her. That probably had to do with the time when she herself a fashion journalist. As I said before, the only one not toeing her line was W. Joop. However, during the last years she had become more friendly with the press giving lengthly interviews and so on.
 
She would have suited Hermes so well too. Not to mention that she wouldn't have had to worry about cheap manufacturing production/and lower prices with Hermes (I can't even afford one of their fragrances... well, I could but rather wouldn't)....

Well since you said it first, I guess its o.k. to say that I also heard from inside sources that Ms. Sander was gay. Or 'bisexual' as I understood from a former employee.
 
I've read that as well in a magazine. There was a picture with Jil Sander and her girlfriend and their 3 sons.
 
Wow... A picture w/ her girlfriend and 3 sons- that must a picture worth a 1000 words. Do you have any links to this? I'd really like to see.

What else did the article say about her?
 
Thanks for the link. I haven't read that yet.

I also found an advertisement where she uses her face for her cosmetic line from the 1980s. Somehow I can't post the format. So if anybody is interested I can email it.
 
Andro said:
What else did the article say about her?

I have some old German magazines in paper format. So I can't give you a link. However, you can access German newspaper sites where they write about the two. Like for example in the www.welt.de and search Dickie Mommsen (Name of her girlfriend). However, I think everything is in German.

They wrote that they have been together for 20 years and that she had some other long time girfriend in Hamburg before that. Her girlfriend owns an estate two hours north of Hamburg. They said that she spends most weekends and holidays there and Jil Sanders Hamburg house is more for a representative purpose. Jil Sander seems to collect houses since she has additionally 3 or 4 more houses in other countries.
 
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Finally I managed to copy it. Its from the 1980s cosmetic line.
 
I didn't get that picture on my post Micro; but I do believe it is the same autographed picture I have of her face closeup shot in black&white. thanks for the info!
 
When following the link above once you get to the website, click on Archiv, then on Tipp 3sat-Suchmaschine and type Jil Sander and select Alle Rubriken underneath, then go to the second hit were you can find the video as described above.
 
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THE PRADA LOVE IN
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PATRIZIO BERTELLI has quieted the speculation about the fate of Jil Sander by saying publicly that he would sell it only if the offer was "very, very, very good", adding that he had also experienced buyers' interest in Helmut Lang. "We are restructuring [Jil Sander] and converting an entrepreneurial business into an industrial one," the Prada ceo told the audience at a luxury goods conference arranged by The Wall Street Journal this week. Part of that process saw Prada form a new company, Prada SpA Group, in October which focuses on its Prada and Miu Miu labels and excludes the money-losing brands: Sander, Lang and a minority stake in Church's shoes. Bertelli also took a shot at the banking world during the conference, criticising the valuation methods of analysts and the pressure put on fashion companies to produce short-term results. "Analysts are wrong to look at just the numbers," he said. "They don't consider what's really important to building a global brand: time and history. We shouldn't fall in love with the numbers but rather be in love with excellence." (December 1 2005, AM)

from www.vogue.co.uk
 
^^^ See, you guys are all wrong about Pat - he's a big softie after all, not just interested in the numbers.
 
Johnny said:
^^^ See, you guys are all wrong about Pat - he's a big softie after all, not just interested in the numbers.
:lol:

i was shocked when i read this today in wwd, thanks for bringing it in Helena :flower:

i'm sure whoever buys the brands will try to get Helmut and Jil back to their positions, so, the sooner the better
just set them free Pat :zorro:
 
" ... We shouldn't fall in love with the numbers but rather be in love with excellence."

If this were so true of him why would he punish Sander's aesthetics by compromising her excellence in detail and textiles... At the same time Pat is opening $40 million dollar Prada boutiques; he is trying to cut costs by controling quality of production with Lang & Sander.
 
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Lena said:
exactly Andro, same goes for HL..


Bertelli just makes me... like crazy sometimes. How could he have such the nerve to do and say the things he does. At the same time it makes me not admire Prada so much. But then again, Ms. Miuccia doesn't have anything to do with the business side of it either.
 
The excellences were "peted" out weren't they:-)
 

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