Racial Diversity In Modeling

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It's a big deal in the Caribbean too. There are tons and tons of people with African heritage in the Caribbean but light skin is preferred and considered "better". My friend is Filipino and in their entertainment, almost all of the stars are white, mixed with white (or other, "lighter" Asian ethnicities), or have "white" features, even though almost nobody in the Philippines is 100% or even half white. The fashion industry's preoccupation with whiteness def isn't exclusive to the western world.[/QUOTE]

I have to agree with that, even with my grandmother who is in her 70's she's carribean and a bit mixed sometimes you can hear the kind of superiority complex in her voice. In cuba and jamaica where im from back in the day you would never get a dark skinned bank clerk and im talking dark as in around naomi's complexion things have changed allot there, cuba not so much.

And wow for Meisel I always had an artistic appreciation for him but wow he is intelligent as well! brilliant
 
It doesn't help when there are rumours of prominent black celebrities using bleaching agents on their skin.

It's like only male black celebrities can have 'darker' skin.

And don't even get me started on jive talking because according to screenwriters that is all black people do and I'm sick of it.

I'd like to see a world where a photoshoot that uses bright colours or "ethnic"/"tribal" clothing wasn't the only gig that a black model can get in the mainstream media.
 
Vanity Fair 2001
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(Models pictured. Front Row (l to r) : Gail O'neal, Karen Alexander, Shakara Ledard,
Clara Benjamin, Naomi Campbell, Iman, Second Row: (l to r) Kadra, Kara Young,
Cynthia Bailey, Tyra Banks, Liya Kebede, Beverly Johnson Third Row: (standing l to r)
Oluchi, Katoucha, Adia, Noemie Lenoir

source | cocolounge
 
Source | The New York Times | June 13, 1987

This article from 1987 is about how black models were starting to make an appearance again...an thee description of the modelling industry in the 1970’s sounds exactly like the situation today. The more things change, the more they remain the same.


At The Height Of Fashion, Black Models

Louise Vyent smiled from the cover of the February issue of Vogue. Two months earlier, Karen Alexander, another black model, appeared in profile on the cover of Elle magazine.

''Black models are starting to be used again,'' said Katie Ford, a vice president of Ford Models Inc. in Manhattan. Impelled by a group of newcomers, a renaissance is occurring for black models in the major women's fashion publications.

The first widespread use of black models occurred in the 1960's, in the wake of the civil rights movement. Black models were seen on the runways at fashion showings, too.

But then their popularity waned. ''In the early 70's black models were used a lot,'' Ms. Ford said. ''Then we went to a really low point.'' At that low point, only a handful of black models appeared regularly in magazines, among them Beverly Johnson and the Somalian model Iman.

Just why black models fell out of favor during the 70's is not entirely clear, though some said the 70's were a bad time for all models with dark hair or dark skin. Look of the 70's.

''In the 70's, it was a problem to go beyond the blond-haired blue-eyed girl,'' said Frances Grill, vice president of Click Model Management. ''The beauty of the 70's was, by and large, very fair-complexioned, until Brooke Shields and Isabella Rossellini came along.''

Today, newcomers like Kirsti Bowser, Gail O'Neill, Veronica Webb, Ms. Vyent and Ms. Alexander are appearing in Glamour, Elle, Mademoiselle and Vogue magazines and in many high-fashion advertisements.

Ms. Alexander, who is 21 years old and has been modeling for five years, said she thinks things are better now, though far from wonderful.

''I've not gotten Lancome offers every day - maybe they think we don't use makeup,'' she said.

Iman and Beverly Johnson ''had it worse,'' she acknowledged.

''They made it much easier for me,'' she said. ''They made people wake up and see that there are black models out there and that they are beautiful.''

Lacey Ford, another vice president of the Ford agency, said ''the world has finally opened up to a broader definition of what's beautiful.''

Dee Simmons-Edelstein of Grace Del Marco Modeling, which specializes in black models, said, ''We're at a stage when we can no longer deny that there is a black consumer.''

And the desire to attract black consumers means that ''most advertisers budget a certain amount of their dollars to the black market and the Latin market,'' said Bill Weinberg of Wilhelmina Models Inc. And that means more work for models from ethnic minorities.

While they are happy that black models are used more often, some in the modeling industry are critical of the form the renewal has taken.

''Today's black models are 'safe,' '' said Bethann Hardison, president of Bethann Model Management. ''They have white features. They're acceptable to the white eye.''

Ms. Grill, too, said that the most successful black models ''have physical attributes more in line with a white model.''

But believing that there are features that belong strictly to either whites or blacks is unfair, too, said Ms. Alexander.

''Black comes in all shapes, sizes and colors,'' she said. ''Everyone said it was so great to see a black model on the cover of Glamour when I did a cover for them about a year ago. I think there's discrimination among the black models who think that there are such things as typical black features, and that everything else is not really black.''

Nikki Garth-Taylor, beauty editor of Essence magazine, said that with the exception of a few at the top, most black models earn the bulk of their income from work for billboards and magazine advertisements. That branch of the business is not considered as prestigious as modeling for editorial fashion layouts, although it is far more lucrative. A Narrow Range.

Critics also said that the type of commercial modeling available to black models is limited. It is unlikely, Ms. Grill said, that a black model would be used in an ad for luxury cars, because ''black people are not thought of as affluent enough'' to afford such cars.

Ms. Garth-Taylor said the range of products black models are enlisted to endorse is narrow - limited, she said, to ''liquor, hair products and cigarettes.'' And blacks are used interchangeably with whites, Ms. Grill said, only if ''they're stars.''

At Mademoiselle, the models editor, Manuela Anzullag, estimated that the magazine has ''about five black models that we use - one or two in each issue.''

The determinant for the continued wide use of black models is how well the publications they appear in sell.

''It's all in the newsstands,'' said Monique Pillard, owner of Elite, a model agency. ''If there's a black on the cover and the circulation goes up, you better believe they're going to keep using more black girls.''
 
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I have asked my advertising clients so many times, ‘Can we use a black girl?’ They say no. The concern is that consumers will resist the product. It all comes down to money.

—Steven Meisel, on why black models have disappeared fashionologie.com
 
hey everyone! i've been reading tfs for a while now but only recently joined. i hope this isn't a repost but here is the link to a short film called "A Girl Like Me" about the issues and standards that are imposed on young women of African decent that i think pertains to this thread very much.
Some people question why it's so necessary for women of non European descent to be included in fashion/beauty industries but i truly believe fashion has a large impact on society ,just as any multi-billion dollar industry does. fashion in particular probably has an even deeper impact because their product is solely image. the powers that be in fashion probably have more to gain by selling the idea that " you'll never be beautiful if you don't always wear/look like this" rather than " you'll be beautiful once you have this", but in my opinion they should take some social responsibility for the some ideas that they continually perpetuate and internalised insecurities that they exploit for the sake of profit. Hopefully the recent attention this issue is receiving will open doors for models with of all backgrounds :flower: .
 
What did you guys think of the article in the July US Vogue? Anyone else wonder why it was accompanied by a cover of one of the palest celebrities in the industry? :huh:
 
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monte_j90 @ ontd_ff

was anyone else upset by the way dsquared portrayed the male black models? like is this srsly the only way you can think of incorporating models of color into you're collection? if it is please **** off and die. but what do y'all think?
 
hey everyone! i've been reading tfs for a while now but only recently joined. i hope this isn't a repost but here is the link to a short film called "A Girl Like Me" about the issues and standards that are imposed on young women of African decent that i think pertains to this thread very much.
Some people question why it's so necessary for women of non European descent to be included in fashion/beauty industries but i truly believe fashion has a large impact on society ,just as any multi-billion dollar industry does. fashion in particular probably has an even deeper impact because their product is solely image. the powers that be in fashion probably have more to gain by selling the idea that " you'll never be beautiful if you don't always wear/look like this" rather than " you'll be beautiful once you have this", but in my opinion they should take some social responsibility for the some ideas that they continually perpetuate and internalised insecurities that they exploit for the sake of profit. Hopefully the recent attention this issue is receiving will open doors for models with of all backgrounds :flower: .

i love that movie! and i agree with you completely.

What did you guys think of the article in the July US Vogue? Anyone else wonder why it was accompanied by a cover of one of the palest celebrities in the industry? :huh:

i haven't actually read the article but let's be straight foward here: ms. wintour is a buisness woman before anything else. my belief is that she knew about the VI issue and tried to cash in before they did. i really don't think she cares and that's why nicole kidman was on the front.
 
well what about this model? he looks fine, and he even opened the show.

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was anyone else upset by the way dsquared portrayed the male black models? like is this srsly the only way you can think of incorporating models of color into you're collection? if it is please **** off and die. but what do y'all think?

in fact after looking at the entire show all the models, white and black, seemed to be dressed in the same clothes and acting the same way. one white model even put up a hand symbol. whatever that was suppose to mean. most of the black models were dressed stylishly anyway.
 
in fact after looking at the entire show all the models, white and black, seemed to be dressed in the same clothes and acting the same way. one white model even put up a hand symbol. whatever that was suppose to mean. most of the black models were dressed stylishly anyway.

this is true, but it could still be seen as a joke, which i don't like. i mean what is their point? first of all, i'm upset that when i finally see a fair share of male black models they have to be portrayed as hip hop/ gangsta's. [not saying they shouldn't be, because after all hip hop is a valid form of music/ expression. hip hop has affected mainstream america in more ways than one, whether people like it or not.] don't you think it's interesting that when have the show is male black models that their "inspiration is hip hop?" like really, sorry if anyone who's reading this disagrees but black people are always, IMO, equated to music when we have done so much more than that. why not have your inspiration be... well helll... anything else. this collection makes me feel like black men are only important because of rap/ hip hop. one white model, even though there were more, doesn't negate this fact.

that model by the way is tyson beckford. the male naomi campbell if you will. the "token"*[meaning fashion designers it black boy because they were too lazy to hire someone else] black model for more than a decade now. of course he's going to be well dressed.
 
i think you're looking too deep into it. hip hop style was only a part of the show. all the models were protrayed equally i feel.

and i don't think thats tyson. :unsure:
 
i love that movie! and i agree with you completely.



i haven't actually read the article but let's be straight foward here: ms. wintour is a buisness woman before anything else. my belief is that she knew about the VI issue and tried to cash in before they did. i really don't think she cares and that's why nicole kidman was on the front.

I find it interesting that she was willing to take a risk with Marie Antoinette, but is apparently unwilling to take a risk here (and it's not like it's a huge risk--we are talking the July issue). I would love to get ALT off the record on this topic. I guess she used up all her moral courage taking a stand for fur :p
 
I find it interesting that she was willing to take a risk with Marie Antoinette, but is apparently unwilling to take a risk here (and it's not like it's a huge risk--we are talking the July issue). I would love to get ALT off the record on this topic. I guess she used up all her moral courage taking a stand for fur :p

I have heard people mention the Marie Antoinette cover but I never understood whats controversial about it? I havent seen the movie and dont know much about her... Is it because its old fashioned?


dsquared is always tacky every season regardless what color the models are, I dont think they should be attacked for using black models.
 
^no you don't seem to understand my point. It's not that they used black models, it's that when they did use black models that their inspiration is hip hop. Let me rephrase my question: Are they stereotyping black men or appreciating hip hop culture?

Why didn't they use black models before when their inspiration wasn't hip hop? Example 1. Example 2. Example 3.

Maybe I am looking too deep into it. But because of my history and the history of my ancestors, I have trouble trusting white men in regards to racism. These 2 are no exception.
 
^no you don't seem to understand my point. It's not that they used black models, it's that when they did use black models that their inspiration is hip hop. Let me rephrase my question: Are they stereotyping black men or appreciating hip hop culture?

Why didn't they use black models before when their inspiration wasn't hip hop? Example 1. Example 2. Example 3.

Maybe I am looking too deep into it. But because of my history and the history of my ancestors, I have trouble trusting white men in regards to racism. These 2 are no exception.

Source: AFP
The Canadian duo DSquared, perhaps anticipating a major push by Italian Vogue against racism in the fashion world in its July issue, used a majority of black models to show their in-your-face creations.
Using break-dancing moves, the army of rappers, accessorised with baseball caps or shining gold chains, seemed straight out of the movie "Shaft."
One caused a stir with the skimpiest possible black swimsuit below a gold microphone dangling between rippling pecs.
What the? Yeah, there are no stereotypes here.:huh: Perhaps they need to hire some consultants???
 
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Source: AFP
What the? Yeah, there are no stereotypes here.:huh: Perhaps they need to hire some consultants???

I think Kithe Brewster is available. The fashion world needs him.

I guess it would be okay to use the rap culture in their show if they had a history of using black models in other attire all along but not to start off like this. This is almost insulting. It's like their saying, 'ok we'll use black models but we are going to portray them the way we see them.' It's the same as back in the 70's when they portrayed black models in African attire only. We
are starting from scratch again.
 
i understand where you guys are coming from. Dsquared was wrong for its um, "vision". But if people keep complaining about stereotypes then black models will never be used. designers won't want to be bothered. but the more they use black models, and the more they get to know them, they will realize that their stereotypes are wrong.

I think for now we should focus on the fact that black models are not being used. Once black models are definite staples on the runways, then we can work on stereotypes.
 
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