Monsieur Cristobal
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The waist area is really problematic.
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I´d say every and each area in that suit are problematic.The waist area is really problematic.
I d definitely go a size down in jacket and throw away the large tie, I’d wear it with a super slip Dior Homme by Hedi tie.View attachment 1328508
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I like the presentation on the runway, but in reality it is just another story. I agree that they need to slightly alter the silhouette (maybe shorter jacket length or size down would help).
I wasn't expecting women to actually pick up on this look, considering how large the shapes are. Let's hope this translates to better sales in 2025. Kering needs it.I d definitely go a size down in jacket and throw away the large tie, I’d wear it with a super slip Dior Homme by Hedi tie.
But seeing it next to his (who is he btw ?) suit, I am starting to understand and appreciate Anthony’s proposition. I think it’s just a matter of styling.
And he started a trend, at least in Paris, of women wearing their husbands’ old suits, or thrifting mens suits. But with super high heels. Or just maybe a micro-trend, its only the 4th time I have spotted it in the people I know.
Maybe better sales at the thrift shops 🤫Let's hope this translates to better sales in 2025. Kering needs it.
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But seeing it next to his (who is he btw ?) suit, I am starting to understand and appreciate Anthony’s proposition. I think it’s just a matter of styling.
And he started a trend, at least in Paris, of women wearing their husbands’ old suits, or thrifting mens suits. But with super high heels. Or just maybe a micro-trend, its only the 4th time I have spotted it in the people I know.
just out of interest, what is your impression of how an YSL couture client would have responded to this proposition? If the women you're seeing are able to adapt the look by wearing their husbands' old suits, and if the fit of AV's suits off the rack is problematic, what would be the value of buying AV's version?But honestly I am super biased because I see the RtW (Ford, Pilati, Hedi or AV) primarily through my eyes which are a 100% immerged in Yves’s couture and keep wandering what Couture clients would have like , because obviously Nan bought a lot of RtW too. At YSL, RTW has often been a derivative of couture.
I agree, an YSL couture client would have scoffed at Anthony's proposition, both jackets and trousers. It's amateurish for couture but OK I guess in the context of RTW: launching trends and being ahead of the fashion conversation.just out of interest, what is your impression of how an YSL couture client would have responded to this proposition? If the women you're seeing are able to adapt the look by wearing their husbands' old suits, and if the fit of AV's suits off the rack is problematic, what would be the value of buying AV's version?
When I think of Yves' couture, I think of the attention he put into adapting men's clothes, sometimes in the subtlest ways, to a woman's body. It was never just "put a big man's suit on a woman" - even when he did oversized proportions, there was a different sensuality in the cut.
My first thought : finally at St Laurent they adjusted the fit in the waist. 🤭🥳I thought they both were wearing YSL...not much difference between that and Primark version (apart from the tag and the price).
That colour palette looks like it came from the abyss that is Sabato's headspace.View attachment 1334653
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