Sexual Misconduct Allegations in the Fashion Industry

There’s no "diminishing" his allegations. There’s a reasonable— and perfectly prudent suggestion of an inquiry to Jason's motives with a lawsuit at this time in an extremely sensitive climate regarding all sexual assault allegations. Please don’t get it twisted.

Either you and I are reading a different thread or we have a different understanding of the English language, so I will allow Merriam-Webster to explain it a little more clearly.

Definition of diminish

transitive verb

2 : to lessen the authority, dignity, or reputation of : belittle - diminish a rival's accomplishments

The third user to post in this thread stated that they flat-out don't believe him. As you continue to read through this thread you will see that the model was accused of being opportunistic, criticised for not speaking up in 2014 and advised that he should have just 'refused to shoot' with Bruce.

Not one of Bruce's supporters have made a "prudent inquiry to Jason's motives." They have belittled his story by using his lawsuit to claim he is opportunistic. No one on here accused Rose McGowan of the same. This is hardly a witchhunt that has resulted from a random accusation. Bruce's name was mentioned many times anonymously in the past few months.

If anything, taking it into the hands of the law instead of solely submitting Bruce to 'trial by social media,' as has occurred often during these past few months, should only increase his credibility.
 
^^^ I am speaking for myself, since this is my post: I am not speaking for Scotty. I am sure he can do that for himself, respectively. I have repeatedly commented I believe Jason's allegations, which I never “diminished”. I question his motives at this moment in time with his lawsuit, so please don’t patronize me with bringing up the definition of “diminish” when you rae quoting me. And to answer your inquiry, I do question Rose McGowan for settling her case with Harvey.

The attitude that through any unfortunate event and experience one’s been assaulted with, it’s perfectly fine, and apparently expected, to file a lawsuit against their defendant for monetary gains, is just such a sad statement of modern mindset as much as those that take advantage of their superior positions in any industry.
 
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^^^ I am speaking for myself, since this is my post: I am not speaking for Scotty. I am sure he can do that for himself, respectively. I have repeatedly commented I believe Jason's allegations, which I never “diminished”. I question his motives at this moment in time with his lawsuit, so please don’t patronize me with bringing up the definition of “diminish” when you rae quoting me. And to answer your inquiry, I do question Rose McGowan for settling her case with Harvey.

The attitude that through any unfortunate event and experience one’s been assaulted with, it’s perfectly fine, and apparently expected, to file a lawsuit against their defendant for monetary gains, is just such a sad statement of modern mindset as much as those that take advantage of their superior positions in any industry.

How is that a "sad statement of modern mindset"? If someone with a lot of power in an industry blackballs you and prevents you from earning an income in that industry because you refuse to sleep with them, why shouldn't that person be held financially liable for the loss of income you've suffered? Not meaning to be contentious here, but I'm genuinely curious as to your reasoning on this.
 
Attorney Lisa Bloom says she has a number of women who contacted her and are ready to testify that they too were victims of sexual harassment at the hands of Representative John Conyers.

We got Bloom at LAX where she said she was busy on her flight sending emails to lawyers for the House Ethics Committee and offered to have her current client -- Marion Brown -- and other former staffers who have contacted her to appear at the hearing next week to chronicle Conyer's alleged abuse.

Bloom also says she's heard from a number of male models who have come forward after she filed a sexual harassment lawsuit against famed photographer Bruce Weber, saying they too were abused.
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I'm maybe naive but i refuse to believe that a 28 years old individual would just cooperate to this kind of behavior while being disrespected in such a way.
Just the fact to be alone with a photographer who has a reputation for sexual-undertone pictures...

Every person reacts differently to any given situation. I would imagine is specially difficult when dealing with someone more powerful than you or your boss.
What do people coming forward have to gain? most likely people are going to shame them, blame them, not believe them. Will they gain money or more work? I don´t think so...
 
Dietprada has a few DMs on their story that recount a few people's experiences with Bruce.

Pretty shocked by the number of users here attempting to diminish the model's credibility. I certainly didn't see this happen with any of Weinstein's female accusers on here.
It also happened with the Bill Cosby accusers. Certain people garner such admiration that any negative thing said about them will be met with hesitation. Weinstein on the other hand had so many dislikable qualities that it was easier for people to believe the accusers.

People tend to blame the victim (see Pamela Anderson's recent outbursts) in these cases because they're perceived as social climbers, ready and willing to do anything to get to the top. Fashion, in a way, is an arm of the aesthetics industry that is now Hollywood so that belief bleeds on through these forums as well when discussing models and their plight.
 
Pretty saddened that the main story in this thread has become the model's reason for suing Weber. I mean, the stories of Weber abusing male models have been going on for a while now after the Weinstein scandal and this was clearly not an isolated case. What is there to defend?

On a side note, Wintour must feel pretty angry and disappointed in herself for giving Weber his first Vogue US cover - if it can be called an official cover, since it wasn't on the newsstands - a mere four months before this came out. It feels like a stain.
 
Penises and Lenses, Fashion's Big Problem

Wow, so when you see all these guys on instagram with their #squad or #gang, you know what they're up to :shock:

– By Khahlil Louisy



Last Friday, news broke that one of the fashion industry’s most revered photographers, Bruce Weber, was being sued by a relatively unheard of male model, named Jason Boyce, who accused him of sexual harassment. His suit also names his former agency, Soul Artist Management, and the agency’s owner, Jason Kanner, according to a report published by the New York Post. In the immediate few hours following, the story would spread like wild fire on the internet, with several media outlets reporting on it. Phone calls, text messages, and emails also started pouring in from friends, colleagues, and models I had worked with. No one, however, was shocked by the accusations leveled against Bruce Weber and Mr. Kanner, indicating that most people working in the fashion industry were aware of such activities taking place.

Three weeks ago, I received a phone call from a photographer, who claimed to have information on what he felt was inappropriate behavior, by models he had worked with from one particular agency. While I was familiar with the photographer’s work, we had only briefly met once before, at an after-party during New York Fashion Week this past September. When I asked why he thought it best to contact me with the information he had, he replied that he had read my piece on the state of the male modeling business, and thought it would be something I would be interested in covering, particularly because what he had to share, involved the agency he believed was known for operating as an escort service and was referenced in the piece. My curiosity piqued.

I delved into the business of fashion about three years ago and in that relatively short time, I have had the pleasure of working with an extensive list of creative powerhouses and talents, including editors, stylists, photographers, art directors, and models, among many others. Over the course of that time and as relationships became more established, I became privy to things that were going on in the industry. Rumors like which agents were sleeping with which models, which stylists were overly helpful in dressing the models, which photographers were thought of as sleazy and predatory, and the more alarming rumors, like agencies who pimped their models, setting them up on dates with wealthy and usually much older men. As it turns out, this behavior goes both ways, and rumors of models who were eager to offer sexual favors in order to book jobs, also made the rounds.

One photographer I spoke to over the weekend, admitted to having engaged in sexual activities with models whom he was photographing, before quickly adding that it was consensual and that he wouldn’t work with anyone underage, sensing my next question. He then recounted a situation where a model arrived at his studio for a photo shoot, took his clothes off, and proceeded to masturbate. “Just like that?” I asked, bewildered. “Just like that.” was his response. What he revealed next, would catch me completely off guard. The model, he said, then requested money from him. Such a move where a model would show up to his studio and be overly sexual or try to engage in sexual activity with him, had occurred multiple times by different models, but always from the same agency, leaving him to question what the development process was like over there.

Another photographer said that he has had instances where agents who know that he is gay, sent him nude pictures of their models, or just images of a model’s penis, in an effort to get him excited and hoping it would lead to booking.

Working models I spoke to shared stories of being on the sets of photo shoots or at a go-sees, where either the photographer or stylist tried to sleep with them, or were overly touchy when helping them get dressed. When asked why they didn’t report those incidents to their agencies, the responses were always the same. According to the models, the agencies are usually aware of which photographers or stylists are predators, but continue working with them because of how much power they wield in the industry. A photographer who photographs multiple advertising campaigns for big-name brands has the power to make a model’s career. It also means that he is a source of revenue for the agency and as such, agents might be hesitant to accuse or approach that photographer about indecent behavior, fearing that the relationship could be damaged.

One model recounted his first experience in New York City, then 17 years old, and sent on his first go-see arranged for him by his agency. According to the model, everything went smoothly and he eventually booked the job. The day of his shoot however, did not go as expected. His agent had communicated that the shoot would be for a fall fashion editorial, even showing him reference images that the photographer had sent over. On the set, however, the stylist was overly touchy, sticking his hands down the model’s pants to tuck the shirt in. A job, he says, he could have done himself. As the photo shoot proceeded, the stylist continued touching him inappropriately and at one point, even pretended to accidentally touch his penis. He was both in shock and conflicted, knowing that kind of behavior wasn’t professional and yet, having seen the previous work of the stylist and the caliber of models with whom he had worked, thought that maybe it was indeed normal. The model stated that he also really needed the images from the editorial shoot to add to his portfolio, in the hopes of booking advertising campaigns. After all, he was already in debt to his agency, who was footing the bill for his stay in New York and he needed to make money.

Another model also recounted an instance when he was new to New York and on the set of a shoot with a photographer, where he was only wearing underwear. The photographer, he said, kept demanding increasingly suggestive poses from him and would even position him the way he wanted. At one point, the photographer began arranging his penis inside of the underwear, stroking it in the process, to get him semi erect. The whole experience, he said, felt very uncomfortable, but he allowed it because that same photographer had worked with multiple brands on their advertising campaigns, but also because his agent had stressed how important it was to work with that photographer.

These stories aren’t isolated incidents. As it turns out, many male models have those experiences, but do not come out with their stories, fearing that their careers could suffer. Most of the male models I spoke to believe that they are on the very bottom rung of the fashion ladder and do not have the same level of support that their female counterparts enjoy. Male models often have to work much harder to earn sufficient money to make a decent living. Many have to take on additional jobs to supplement their incomes. Further, the fashion industry, particularly on the image making side, is dominated by gay men, many of who understand the power that they possess over the careers of the models, and are not afraid to use it to get what they want.

Several models said that unless they are willing to participate in the activities of these older gay men, it’s not likely that they will make it very far in the industry. “You have to be part of the gang.” one model said. They also talked about wild summer parties both in and out of the city, with agents and so-called friends of the agents. “You have to do these things to please both the agents and their friends, because they’re the ones who hold the power.” Another model added, before continuing “these men are always trying to get male models in as little clothing as possible, solely for their enjoyment. For them, it’s always about the dick.”
Source: bonneny.com
 
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How is that a "sad statement of modern mindset"? If someone with a lot of power in an industry blackballs you and prevents you from earning an income in that industry because you refuse to sleep with them, why shouldn't that person be held financially liable for the loss of income you've suffered? Not meaning to be contentious here, but I'm genuinely curious as to your reasoning on this.

Because we shouldn’t equate a sexual assault ordeal with the opportunity for a windfall.

Because Jason’s timing for bringing up a lawsuit at this time is as revealing of his motives as Bruce’s alleged abuse of his status: They are both taking advantage of an opportunity.

And being opportunistic is not a unholy characteristic— it’s rather human. Just that when it’s exploited at the expense of an ordeal that’s supposedly so soul-damaging is not something I could sympathize with, as much as I may completely believe Jason’s account of the event. It’s not sad to not see any situation in only B&W. Nor is it not sad to want to question everything and everyone’s motives rather than just only accept one account of the experience. There are numerous factors, along with context that these sorts of situations occur. It’s never as simple as black or white. And without knowing Jason nor Bruce personally— but I am familiar with either perspective since these kinds of things do occur, I can only go by common sense rather than by emotion.
 
Because we shouldn’t equate a sexual assault ordeal with the opportunity for a windfall.

Because Jason’s timing for bringing up a lawsuit at this time is as revealing of his motives as Bruce’s alleged abuse of his status: They are both taking advantage of an opportunity.

And being opportunistic is not a unholy characteristic— it’s rather human. Just that when it’s exploited at the expense of an ordeal that’s supposedly so soul-damaging is not something I could sympathize with, as much as I may completely believe Jason’s account of the event. It’s not sad to not see any situation in only B&W. Nor is it not sad to want to question everything and everyone’s motives rather than just only accept one account of the experience. There are numerous factors, along with context that these sorts of situations occur. It’s never as simple as black or white. And without knowing Jason nor Bruce personally— but I am familiar with either perspective since these kinds of things do occur, I can only go by common sense rather than by emotion.

While they may be a "pain and suffering" component to these payouts, they're largely intended to provide compensation for income lost due to the actions of the perpetrator. So it's hardly a "windfall" - it's merely an attempt to compensate someone for monetary losses suffered after a predator took steps to blackball them and harm their career.

And my perspective on the timing of it is a bit different from yours. I thing we're in the middle of movement right now that reflects a sea change regarding power dynamics. People are finding the courage to speak out about abuses of power, and their courage is inspiring others to speak up as well. This model may have been afraid to speak up three years ago, but it's certainly possible that the #MeToo movement has helped him find his voice.

I think all the changes that are happening are pretty wonderful. The landscape in many different industries will look a lot different when all of this is done, and it will have changed for the better.
 
While i didn't know anything about Weber's habit, i have to say that i'm quite shocked to read this piece.
This is sick and twisted in every level. This actually makes you want to not have any type of trust in people.
It's time to take things really seriously and to have a real cleanser in this industry.
 
Wow, there's more to come on this, I'm sure. Thanks for posting.
 
Another model has come forward:
Two male models alleged famed photographer Bruce Weber forced them to touch their genitals ... leading to depression, substance abuse and ruined careers.

Jason Boyce and Mark Ricketson appeared with attorney Lisa Bloom Tuesday at a news conference ... where Boyce publicly spoke for the first time about allegations detailed in a lawsuit filed Friday. At the time, Boyce was 28 and Weber 68.

Ricketson said his encounter with Weber -- whose work for Calvin Klein, Ralph Lauren and Gianni Versace has appeared in GQ, Vogue and countless other magazines -- went down when he was 18 years old during a breathing exercise.

Ricketson said he "knew that if he protested or refused we would be blacklisted." Ricketson, however, isn't suing because Bloom said the statute of limitations has passed.

Ricketson's allegations come on the heels of Vanity Fair reportedly canceling a party to honor Weber.
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I'm feeling sick after reading all these enconters and allegations. What a sick world. I'm also not surprised by neither Terry, Weber and (if true) Testino. Actually, I always hated both Terry and Testino's work so no loss for me there.
 
Working as photographer,I noticed many of them make pictures just for trying to touch the model it happens everywhere
 
Working as photographer,I noticed many of them make pictures just for trying to touch the model it happens everywhere

I can believe this! In Weber's case most of the time male nudity or presence wasn't even needed, but he somehow managed to squeeze an Abercombie adonis in at will.

If VF is onto him then it means he may be informally blacklisted from CN as we speak.

I'm a little taken aback by the way the media is handling this situation. It seems one article was created and distributed like a press release. Lots of disingenuous posts. Furthers the point that assault against men don't 'sell.'
 
I can believe this! In Weber's case most of the time male nudity or presence wasn't even needed, but he somehow managed to squeeze an Abercombie adonis in at will.

If VF is onto him then it means he may be informally blacklisted from CN as we speak.

I'm a little taken aback by the way the media is handling this situation. It seems one article was created and distributed like a press release. Lots of disingenuous posts. Furthers the point that assault against men don't 'sell.'


Which is why the guys are afraid to come forward. They already believe that no one cares about them and that once the media moves over this current situation, their careers will never recover, but the violators will continue to work. It's really sad.
 

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