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I'm dying to see Paris Je T'Aime! Such an interesting premise, and I adore Paris. :heart: Anyone seen it?
 
I just watched on Pan's labyrinth. It was very touching movie I think. Ending reminds me little bit A1 but maybe not so Disney. Movie was really extreme, there was war and lots of violent and then there was very intresting part when girl dreaming. I like it very much.

I just saw this last night, too. Wasn't it great? Guillermo del Toro is my new hero--he understands what a Motion Picture is about. Nothing accidental in that movie at all, just so crafted and deliberate--you can tell he'd been working every shot in his head for years. I don't speak much Spanish, but the images tell the story. It will play all over the world forever.

There's a great interview on NPR.org with del Toro talking about his films and his life. He mentions his father being kidnapped and ransomed in Mexico in 1997. Thankfully the negotiations turned out well and his father lived--in the interview Guillermo says something like, "Now when my brother and I see him, we demand he do something entertaining like sing a song or dance," jokingly referring to how much money they had to pay the kidnappers, and their father's resulting "debt".

I can only hope that storytelling like this can continue to break away from the Hollywood mold, or that Hollywood can break its own mold--something, anything--to keep films like this coming.
 
I still haven't seen Pan's Labryinth yet. Reading all of this makes me really antsy to watch it.

I've been wanting to see Paris Je T'Aime since I first heard about it last year. I'm not sure though about the premis: Is it different short, seperate stories, or all they all entwined in some way? Either way, I'm watching it.
 
^ I just saw it tonight, and I loved it! :heart:

There are 18 different stories. They're all about love in different ways, and are loosely tied together, not really like they are all one story but they are all different stories tied together because of the theme and because they follow different people with different lives all over the city. Each story takes place in different sections of Paris.

If you get a chance to see it, I highly recommend it!
 
Amants réguliers, les (Regular lovers)/France/Philippe Garrel/2005: Semi-autobiographical story of lovers who meet during the « social revolution » of May 68 and later hang around with a bunch of disillusioned artistic youth in the luxurious apartment of a bourgeois friend.
May 68: pretty much the French pendant to the American Vietnam protests, but with more intellectual posturing and less patchouli. A lot of intellectuals of all stripes had their life shaped by what they lived during May 68; in French political thinking there is a pre and post 68 division, which doesn’t happen often in history unless the son of god comes to earth or something of that caliber. French new wave members were among those that were greatly involved in all this, the work of Jean-Luc Godard being a shining example.

Why you should see Les amants réguliers:
· Gorgeous black and white cinematography, the movie is striking, space and camera positioning are sharply put to use, all this without looking overproduced or too staged. In other words I don’t think a movie like 300 is visually impressive but this one is…
· Great elliptical narrative that often skips the “action” phase to go straight to what is important; how the character react, what they feel, what it means to them.
· Generates various question about art, creation and the place of creators.
· I want to dress like the main character, who happens to be played by Louis Garrel (the director’s son) which takes the autobiographical references to a whole different level.
· The first act, which concerns the riots and their aftermath, is presented through a series of long takes where uncertainty and a certain unreality makes the proceedings all the more realistic by conveying how it felt, at least for one man, to be there. A lesser director might have used frantic editing and a standard cinema vérité, hand-held camera approach, creating a sort of newsreel but this is, thankfully, not the case here.
· Garrel, a child of May 68 himself, manages to tell how the “revolution’ collapsed afterward, without using dramatic gestures or overt symbolism; just by showing you how the characters react and interact with each others and the world at large.
· The male and female leads are excellent and bring a great sensitivity that is much needed, as this is, at the foremost, a film that should speak to you on a visceral level
· Be warned that it’s 3 hours and that I’m sure you could find people to say that “nothing happens”
 
Fumma-would I be able to buy it from a store in America, or are my chances better on the Internet?
I've seen movies where other people have said "Nothing Happened!" I love movies like that, simply because the good ones like that often show good character study. I love characters-plot's important, but how a character(s) reacts to it and changes because of it is what makes me love a movie.

Thanks TheKiwi! I'll def try to watch it-although I might have to wait until it comes out on DVD-the downside of living in a place where I have to take a long drive to see a movie that isn't considered a "Blockbuster"
 
Fumma-would I be able to buy it from a store in America, or are my chances better on the Internet?
I've seen movies where other people have said "Nothing Happened!" I love movies like that, simply because the good ones like that often show good character study. I love characters-plot's important, but how a character(s) reacts to it and changes because of it is what makes me love a movie.

Thanks TheKiwi! I'll def try to watch it-although I might have to wait until it comes out on DVD-the downside of living in a place where I have to take a long drive to see a movie that isn't considered a "Blockbuster"

I'm not an american but I guess it depends on what kind of videoclubs are near where you live, I definitely would not call it a "mainstream" film so don't get your hopes too high. There is a R1 (north american) DVD release so you can search for it online here and find the best prices:

http://www.dvdpricesearch.com

I'd say the online DVD rental services are probably the best bets of a regular movie watcher who lives far from great videoclubs, I got a few nearby and still use them as their choice is unmatched by brick and mortar places.
 
Thanks Fumma, I'll probably try to buy it soon-I've still got to get Pan's Labryinth.
 
Here's a short text I posted on another forum after seeing Marie-Antoinette, thought it might be relevent here:

Marie-Antoinette/Coppola/USA/2006I saw this one yesterday; here are a few random thoughts:

· More about themes than any sort of well constructed storyline, definitely a mood piece where the connection is/isn’t made on an emotional level
· This is really Coppola’s personal viewpoint; the movie is thankfully not about history. Americans tend to approach French history from a weird angle anyway + the past should be treated with the same range as the present, otherwise all you can get out of it are “historical films” which greatly limit creativity.
· I liked the inclusion of modern songs on the soundtrack, combined with some of the very creative cinematography they turned parts of the film in very effective videoclips
· Successfully relayed the feeling of infantilism you get from a social class which, having stopped having any usefulness long ago, pass the time by endlessly complicating human interactions to an extreme level, making their make-believe world almost impenetrable to outsiders.
· I saw the French dub version, a rarity for the film purist that I am. I must say American accents would have killed it for me so this was probably a benediction
· Lots of close-up, camera movements; a restless and youthful realization that fits the piece very well
· The fluff dosage was very high but palatable, contrary to let’s say Baz Lhurmann baroque monstrosity (Moulin Rouge)
· While it wasn’t boring (maybe a tad too long though, could have benefited from a more disciplined editing), it has about as much significance as “Girls just wanna have fun”, but, while you never think about it, you do bob your head to that song when it plays, do you?
· If you want to see an infinitely better film about the French court of that time (well slightly earlier) just rent Ridicule by Leconte
 
Fumma-would I be able to buy it from a store in America, or are my chances better on the Internet?

it is available in the states. well, at least in new york city. although it was filmed two years ago, just got released in dvd recently.

great film, like Fuuma has described btw...
 
Marie Antoinette was an odd film for me-It's a movie I enjoy watching, but it's not necessarily accurate in terms of history. It's a film that I felt kind of reflects Sofia's life-kind of like she was telling her story while telling Marie's. I liked it because it wasn't a typical historical film, which as you mentioned, has its limits as to what can be creatively done.
It was more Marie based than anything: Girl going through a certain situation, vs. the whole story of Marie especially in terms to what was going on in France during that time period.
I loved the cinamatography during certain scenes-especially ones that involved nature.
The music was awesome, and allowed for a different take.
It was odd not having much dialouge in a film, especially one so long, but Sofia's film tend to be more visual anyway.
It was supposed to evoke sympathy for Marie, but I think one has to be in certain mental frame to see it that way.
Either way, I've got in on DVD.
 
At the moment I am highly interested in French movies. I don't know what it is or where it comes from, but all these films are perfect romantic magic to me.

I am dying to see "Avenue Montaigne" ( any one seen it ? ) and "Paris je t'aime" seems just as fantastic to me :)

Any more recommendations for me ? ^_^
 
At the moment I am highly interested in French movies. I don't know what it is or where it comes from, but all these films are perfect romantic magic to me.

I am dying to see "Avenue Montaigne" ( any one seen it ? ) and "Paris je t'aime" seems just as fantastic to me :)

Any more recommendations for me ? ^_^

Here’s a few films with some elements of romance that you might enjoy (just went quickly through my dvd collection so it is by no mean exhaustive) :

37.2 le matin (Betty blue)
Diva
Les amants du Pont-Neuf (lovers on the bridge)
La reine Margot
Pepe le moko
Exils
Mépris, le
Breathless
Cyrano de bergerac
Fille sur la pont, la (girl on the bridge)
Parfum d’Yvonne, le
La bonne année
L’appartement
The whole Antoine Doinel series by Truffaut
Last metro, the
Mississippi mermaid
L’Atalante
Indochine

I'd generally recommend looking for films by Godard, Truffaut, Leconte, Beineix, Clair, Renoir are these often include strong "romantic" subplots
 
Here’s a few films with some elements of romance that you might enjoy (just went quickly through my dvd collection so it is by no mean exhaustive) :

37.2 le matin (Betty blue)
Diva
Les amants du Pont-Neuf (lovers on the bridge)
La reine Margot
Pepe le moko
Exils
Mépris, le
Breathless
Cyrano de bergerac
Fille sur la pont, la (girl on the bridge)
Parfum d’Yvonne, le
La bonne année
L’appartement
The whole Antoine Doinel series by Truffaut
Last metro, the
Mississippi mermaid
L’Atalante
Indochine

I'd generally recommend looking for films by Godard, Truffaut, Leconte, Beineix, Clair, Renoir are these often include strong "romantic" subplots
Thank you so much! :D I am defenitely going to watch these movies!
 
I haven't had much of a chance to post recently because I just relocated, but I had the chance to see Rivette's Out 1 two weekends ago. For those who are unaware, it's over 12 hours long and despite being filmed over 30 years ago, it received it's first US screening late last year. I had no idea how much of an effort the screening would be. There is only one 16mm print in the world and in order to subtitle it, they use some sort of powerpoint-esque program to display the text. The catch: it's manual. This required the hiring of a French professor who spent the bulk of her memorial day weekend clicking through and attempting to keep up with the often overlapping conversations. It was split into 4 sessions- basically 2:30 until after 10pm on a Saturday and Sunday with some short intermissions and an hour long dinner break. The Chicago screening attracted more viewers than almost all of the others (except NY), so the film center was very pleased with the turnout.

I should have a lot to say about it, but it's more difficult than I imagined to come to terms with my mixed feelings about the film and Rivette in general. In many respects it was more of an ordeal than pleasurable viewing and because of that, it's been sort of a turning point in my cinematic life. Basically it takes what it presents (in terms of themes, technique etc.) and extends it so far that it forced me to really reflect on what I want out of film and what sorts of issues really connect with me. As it turns out, I've decided that my ideals are almost the complete inverse of Rivette's. By the latter half of the second day, all I could think about was how I just wanted to go home and watch every Bresson film I could get my hands on.

I hadn't thought about him when I went into the film (or even after watching a few Rivette pictures earlier in the retrospective), but now it strikes me that they're both concerned with presenting "reality" without the standard dramatic/cinematic manipulations, but they do it in almost completely opposite ways. Rivette is concerned with theatre production, improvisation, conspiracy theories (and tangentially the Paris riots) and a sort of cyclical type of repetition (actions, shots, moods, words etc.) that attempts to bring the characters closer to the tedium and coincidence of real life. There's not a sense of audience manipulation or good v bad characters. It is, in some respects, a depiction of reality, but it's like one of the other theatre-goers noted- It's like he takes what could normally be presented in ~2 hours and stretches it to the limit through his longs takes and meandering conversations. It allows much more time to reflect on absorb what you're seeing-- which was definitely beneficial-- if exhausting for me.

This is the complete opposite of (and at least at this point --for me-- inferior to) Bresson's decidedly non-theatrical, compressed films. If almost every bit of Rivette's films could (and often DOES) take place on a stage, the essence of Bresson can't be removed from cinema. He can take what would normally occupy 3 hours of standard movie time (or as he calls it, filmed theatre) and squeeze it into half of that space. Even though he cuts away from a lot of the standard "dramatic" events, it's not minimalism, but rather a type of purity where you only include what it necessary to the characters/scenario. It's the whole concept of not wasting a shot or a second of screen time. For me that's far more admirable than stretching things out. That's not to say that Rivette's techniques aren't worthwhile or inspired. I'm still sort of in shock by how Out 1 has given me a new sense of clarity. I haven't gotten back through all of the Bressons I want to see (which is maybe 9 that are on DVD), but now, even when I've watched a couple of other movies I find myself far less patient with what I perceive as wasted time. That's not to say that I want all fast paced/quick cuts-- that can be even emptier. But I do have a better sense of when shot or anything fails to add to the tone or advance anything on screen. That ability in itself made it worth seeing Rivette's grand opus.

I know I didn't really end up saying much about the content of the film itself, but I think gut reactions are often more interesting to write (and read) about. Has anyone else had a chance to see it? There's also a 4 hour recut version called Out 1: Specre. It plays this weekend, but I'm still undecided about it.



On another topic, I haven't seen it yet, but Regular Lovers did just get a US DVD release. I haven't seen it yet, but I look forward to renting it once I'm back in the mood for a longer film


Also, has anyone had the chance to catch the current Antonioni retrospective? It starts here in Chicago in a couple of weeks. It's maybe 18 features over 6 weeks. Ideally I want to catch them all, but I think I'll focus on seeing the really rare ones. It's hard though. I may never otherwise get to see his Vitti pictures or The Passenger on the big screen. Either way, it'll be great to finally get to see stuff like Identification of a Woman, his early short films and a passable version of Red Desert.
 
Visconti, you give wonderful posts on this forum. There so detailed and well said, and it's quite obvious you know your stuff. It's so hard to get good and/or rare movies where I'm at now.
 
I've got a question: I just saw The 400 Blows and really want to see the rest of the films about the Antoine Doinel character, but I can only seem to find certain ones! (Netflix... :angry::ninja:) Could someone please tell me, is it important or better to view them in sequence? Or can I just skip around?
 
See the Doinel films in sequence if you can. The lay out his childhood to marriage and beyond, so you'd be confused seeing them out of order. There are 4 features plus a short film. There are 2 DVD versions in the US. Originally Fox Lorber released a bunch of separate Truffaut discs. Then, a couple of years back Criterion released a boxed set with all five. It's superior in terms of video quality and supplemental features, but the other versions are watchable. I'm not sure which Netflix stocks because I used to own the set + my library has the Criterions, so I've never tried renting them.

But, the proper order is The 400 Blows, Antoine and Colette (the short film), Stolen Kisses, Bed and Board and Love on the Run. If you can get the CC versions, the short film + Truffaut's debut short are in with The 400 Blows material. If not, they come on a separate disc.

It's been a few years since I've seen the series, but I remember liking all but the last one. They do get more traditionally put together as they go, but Leaud is entertaining enough to make the whole series worth seeing.

Good luck finding all of the installments.
 

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