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Best women's final they've ever played in Ashe Stadium.
I almost find myself liking Azarenka more after this. She was very gracious in defeat as well. It's just I can't abide that noise she makes. I can put up with grunting from most players but hers is the worst. Some incredible returning, incredible shot-making though. She made this a really memorable match.
Serena was insanely good in the first set and then I don't know what happened. Footwork seemed to go a bit and she wasn't getting her serve in. Maybe a bit lucky that Vika had a ropey game when she was serving out the match. And suddenly Serena lifts herself at the vital time. She deserves to be at the no.1 spot sooner rather than later.
I almost find myself liking Azarenka more after this. She was very gracious in defeat as well. It's just I can't abide that noise she makes. I can put up with grunting from most players but hers is the worst. Some incredible returning, incredible shot-making though. She made this a really memorable match.
Serena was insanely good in the first set and then I don't know what happened. Footwork seemed to go a bit and she wasn't getting her serve in. Maybe a bit lucky that Vika had a ropey game when she was serving out the match. And suddenly Serena lifts herself at the vital time. She deserves to be at the no.1 spot sooner rather than later.
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Totally gutted for Vika! 
She fought so hard, and had she not choked when serving for the match ... oh well. Maybe next time. It was interesting though because she had a much harder path to the final, going through Sam and then Maria (two USO champions), so finally Serena faced someone who wouldn't back down or who wasn't utterly powerless. Vika was all over Serena's second serve and she was better in the rallies. She exploited Serena's two weaknesses: movement and second serve. And she almost won. Sigh. Okay, well. Moving on...
She fought so hard, and had she not choked when serving for the match ... oh well. Maybe next time. It was interesting though because she had a much harder path to the final, going through Sam and then Maria (two USO champions), so finally Serena faced someone who wouldn't back down or who wasn't utterly powerless. Vika was all over Serena's second serve and she was better in the rallies. She exploited Serena's two weaknesses: movement and second serve. And she almost won. Sigh. Okay, well. Moving on...
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chaky,i think it's because vika raised the level on her return game. notice vika started sneaking inside the baseline more on serena's second serve. i honestly have never seen anybody contest serena's service quite like that since dementieva and justine....and to a degree what stosur managed to do last year and in that RG quarter against her.
but i agree.....vika should be extremely proud of herself and should take this and use it to inspire her even further. what i saw yesterday was a great in the making,imo. and not only did she do something very few players have ever done against serena in a final at a major but it's also the first time that serena has ever played such a tight final set in a major final. most of her previous victories like over justine at australia....davenport at australia....were all thumpings. and both should be applauded though for extending this final for the first time since graf and seles did it in 1995. wonderful stuff and i hope we get to see more.
but i agree.....vika should be extremely proud of herself and should take this and use it to inspire her even further. what i saw yesterday was a great in the making,imo. and not only did she do something very few players have ever done against serena in a final at a major but it's also the first time that serena has ever played such a tight final set in a major final. most of her previous victories like over justine at australia....davenport at australia....were all thumpings. and both should be applauded though for extending this final for the first time since graf and seles did it in 1995. wonderful stuff and i hope we get to see more.
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Gutted for Vika is how I feel. After that first set I was ready to write her off, but then she played such great tennis and for a little while there, it looked like she could take it. I'm usually the one rooting for the underdog so I was really hoping she'd win. Alas, it wasn't to be. She really gave away that service game when serving for the match. After that, I just 'knew' Serena was going to win.
Such a terrible men's final today. I really could not care less who wins. Wish both could lose tbh. I guess if I had to root for someone, I'd pick Novak, just so Murray yet again goes slam-less.
Such a terrible men's final today. I really could not care less who wins. Wish both could lose tbh. I guess if I had to root for someone, I'd pick Novak, just so Murray yet again goes slam-less.
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Murray has a break in the final set. Could he actually win? I'm not watching it right now but it would be cool if he does.
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and he did it! super stuff tonight and after going down two sets i thought novak would run away with it in the final set but andy got the early break and held for 2-0....really didn't look back after that. unfortunate nole started feeling some kind of injury at 4-2 but really pleased to see the history andy has made and to overcome that hurdle finally for himself.
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I don't even like him but I'm so proud of him. The new channels are going crazy in the UK as you would imagine. 
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I wish I could have watched the match today (once again I blame work), it sounds like it was pretty epic! Major congrats are in order for Andy, he is really coming into his own this year, isn't he? Plus, he's the first British man to win a Grand Slam championship in seventy-six years!
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Congrats to Andy! I think it was good Nole fought back and pushed it to a 5th. But Andy held strong in the end, kudos to him. He really deserved it!!! 
I stayed up till nearly 3am watching this match last night!
Always been fed up of everyone going on about Fred Perry every year when Wimbledon is on. I'm not a massive Murray fan but I was rooting for him to get that slam win so we can all move on!
Lucky for Andy it was windy as I think that played into his hands. Unfortunately it meant that although the match was quite exciting the quality was relatively poor for the early parts as both players were being really tentative or making bad errors. Fourth and fifth sets the wind seemed to die down and the level of play improved.
This win is testament to Murray's increased mental strength. It was starting to look like he'd suffer a catastrophic loss after the fourth set, but he really finished off well.
Always been fed up of everyone going on about Fred Perry every year when Wimbledon is on. I'm not a massive Murray fan but I was rooting for him to get that slam win so we can all move on!
Lucky for Andy it was windy as I think that played into his hands. Unfortunately it meant that although the match was quite exciting the quality was relatively poor for the early parts as both players were being really tentative or making bad errors. Fourth and fifth sets the wind seemed to die down and the level of play improved.
This win is testament to Murray's increased mental strength. It was starting to look like he'd suffer a catastrophic loss after the fourth set, but he really finished off well.
^not even just the gold medal but murray getting to that final at wimbledon i feel took a huge monkey off his back and i think that's where and how he has begun to play like a true champion. and credit to ivan lendl too because i honestly think lendl's cool head has been a great debt to andy changing his attitude this year. it used to be that when andy got down he would get down on himself and just get mopey and lose it.....his head is in it more now than ever.
^ Yes!! While I was watching the final I could see Andy getting down on himself when Novak started to play well. I just kept saying to myself like, 'don't wallow. Don't put yourself down. Just stay positive.' Andy can get really negative and I think that's what has stopped him from being a champion early on in his career, but he's combating that and not allowing himself to get in his own head. He really is his own worst enemy, but I'm happy he's getting over that hurdle.
justine seems to be in such a happy place right now. even when she returned to the tour i saw something very different about her compared with the juju i remember pre-retirement no.1. very happy for her as this was something i think she's been wanting for a while now.
The WTA Championships start on Tuesday in Istanbul. Draws were made today.
Red Group:
Victoria Azarenka
Serena Williams
Angelique Kerber
Li Na
White Group:
Maria Sharapova
Agnieszka Radwanska
Petra Kvitova
Sara Errani
So who does everyone think will make it out of their groups?
Red - I think you have to go with Vika and Serena. White - I'm not sure. Petra has not performed her best this year but it's indoors and we know that's where she's best. But I wonder if we'll see a surprise here.
And the official class photo:
tennisforum.com
Red Group:
Victoria Azarenka
Serena Williams
Angelique Kerber
Li Na
White Group:
Maria Sharapova
Agnieszka Radwanska
Petra Kvitova
Sara Errani
So who does everyone think will make it out of their groups?
Red - I think you have to go with Vika and Serena. White - I'm not sure. Petra has not performed her best this year but it's indoors and we know that's where she's best. But I wonder if we'll see a surprise here.
And the official class photo:
tennisforum.com
notice how serena and petra are wearing almost the exact same dress and both are also are first of the three outside women? i thought that was interesting when i saw it earlier.
anyway,petra actually is in a nice group. aga and errani are both winnable match-ups for her(she's never lost to aga all three times they played,including here last year) and despite not having a good record against sharapova this season,with this RR i give kvitova a really strong shot at the semis at least.
but vika has a very tough one with serena and li na(whom she's 4-4 h2h against and their recent matches have all gone deep),who i think are the toughest match-up-wise for her. and kerber could prove tough for serena. regardless,i see serena and possibly sharapova or vika in the final. it'll be interesting looking ahead if vika,maria and serena get to the semis and kvitova should,would kvitova play serena or vika? i've been looking forward to another meeting between petra and azarenka,rekindling their rivalry from last year.
anyway,petra actually is in a nice group. aga and errani are both winnable match-ups for her(she's never lost to aga all three times they played,including here last year) and despite not having a good record against sharapova this season,with this RR i give kvitova a really strong shot at the semis at least.
but vika has a very tough one with serena and li na(whom she's 4-4 h2h against and their recent matches have all gone deep),who i think are the toughest match-up-wise for her. and kerber could prove tough for serena. regardless,i see serena and possibly sharapova or vika in the final. it'll be interesting looking ahead if vika,maria and serena get to the semis and kvitova should,would kvitova play serena or vika? i've been looking forward to another meeting between petra and azarenka,rekindling their rivalry from last year.
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