Vetements F/W 2016.17 Paris

[Marc10]

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[Marc10]

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[Marc10]

vogue

 

[Marc10]

vogue

 

[mistress_f]

see, i just don't get it.
do i hate it? no. I actually really like a few looks here and there. But i still don't get all the fuzz.

those ironic takes on heavy metal t-shirts / sweatshirts are so tired. the 90s alt/raver look (not even a take on it, it's just reproduced in its entirety - see this look, for example) was never exicting to begin with. the slogan sweatshirts... same. I'd probably buy the 'may the bridges i burn light my way' on impulse, but is that really relevant?

the deconstructed looks are interesting, but nothing groundbreaking.

i'm looking forward to see what he'll do at balenciaga, but this, i just don't understand. Maybe i'm just getting too old

 

[Mrs.Smith]

Yeah, I was going to ask if someone was able to explain this brand to me? So the people behind it are friends with "the cool people" and therefore "the cool people" and everybody else wears this? And Kanye, obviously. I mean, it's not even all that bad, but I really don't get those prints, also not in an ironic way.

But last but not least:

... but this, i just don't understand. Maybe i'm just getting too old

 

[Cosmic Voices]

Thom Browne executed those silhouettes better.

 

[Steddycam91]

The problem is that there really is nothing to "get." Just a retread of Margiela/"ironic" take on basic, banal clothes. No spirit, no passion and (despite the messy hair and wonky proportions) not a hint of imagination or idiosyncrasy.

 

[squilliam]

A few nice things...but this collection is basic, try hard, pseudo intellectual, and pointless. This brand is all hype and no substance, emperor's new clothes anyone? People like it so everyone thinks they're cool. If I was a major famous celeb I'd call them overrated from the beginning, maybe others would follow

 

[squilliam]

I just read an article on Vogue that said "designs for vetements are among the most copied in the biz"...I feel it's really more like 'vetements designers are among the biggest copiers in the biz', but that's just me

 

[Pricciao]

Thom Browne executed those silhouettes better.

What? How do you relate this to Thom?

I like this collection, this definitely makes me feel the gang, but so much cleaner up. Still very lean, and some quite insufferable colors. It is getting a strong aesthetic out. Few good propose of work wear thrown in between, that's nice. Most of the shoulder pads are fine, but we know that no one is going to be that 80s again anymore. Other than that AND velvet, how easy yet strong looking they are?
If you want to know what's the vibe about Vetements or Gosha, you can watch The Tribe for this Russian/Ukrainian influence first.

 

[Creative]

Yeah, I was going to ask if someone was able to explain this brand to me?

Yes. They design every garment in just 20 minutes, or even less time. Said by Demna himself. That's maybe the reason why it looks they way it looks.

A few illuminati said this was great and the rest of the sheep world, oops, I mean fashion world, followed.

Hope this helps.


OMG, they are really bad boys!! They put "You fuc**** a$sh***" in a jumper! That's so groundbreaking, transgressor, new and cool. In awe.

Looking at it I really wonder if Demna was exagerating when he said they took 20 minutes to design each of those garments. They are really sloooow. Two minutes would've been enough for any other designer.

 

[gazebo]

This is the opposite of cool! So try-hard!

 

[mistress_f]

What? How do you relate this to Thom?

I like this collection, this definitely makes me feel the gang, but so much cleaner up. Still very lean, and some quite insufferable colors. It is getting a strong aesthetic out. Few good propose of work wear thrown in between, that's nice. Most of the shoulder pads are fine, but we know that no one is going to be that 80s again anymore. Other than that AND velvet, how easy yet strong looking they are?
If you want to know what's the vibe about Vetements or Gosha, you can watch The Tribe for this Russian/Ukrainian influence first.

The tribe is an intense film, but i don't really think i need art film references or great explanations to get this aesthetic. Growing up in europe in the 80s-90s gave me all the info i needed. hell, the rare times i still go clubbing, it's partly still there. Like i've said above, other than the deconstructed pieces, everything else is so literal it hurts.

ravers, clubbers, punks... it's all literally there. in the same exact way hedi slimane directly puts indie rock kids' outfits on slp's runways, this collection, at least the second half of it, takes that aesthetic without even reworking it a little. I guess i'm seriously too old to be excited by this, lol

 

[MulletProof]

.. this really makes me miss the heyday of BLESS, if they ever even had such a thing. I always got the impression that despite the pretentious, difficult and other accusations, people that were really into design and did creative things for a living were their actual customers, because it came down to making these pieces part of their wardrobe (as it should be?!).

Now this person wishes he was catering to that small group of girls that like simplicity, but it's everything but, their audience is basically the lowest demographic: the bloggers, former bloggers, bloggers turned "up and coming photographers" or whatever's the new dj, streetstyle personalities, the kardashians, instagirls. Maybe this is finally an honest attempt to make them as irritating outside as they often are inside.

 

[Pricciao]

^^I mean the outfits in The tribe is that background of what these two are doing, not the film itself of course. And I didn't grow up in Europe, since someone like me have no idea where to look for, simply that's some kind of place that I can find the answer.

I do know some California kids going mad about Gosha, that's the thing.

 

[Lola701]

This really irritates me a !
I don't want anyone to explain me what it is. All i know is that this is a copycat, like a "Zuhair Murad type of copycat" of Margiela.
What really irritates me is the fact that the fashion is praising something that doesn't bring ANYTHING new, refreshing or different!

They didn't even tried! Are we really going to act like Martin Margiela wasn't obsessed by 80's inspired shoulders the last 3 years of his career?
And the oversized thing...just go to his collections from 2000 to 2003.

This is like the worst day of the entire fashion week. A succession of uninspired, ugly, boring, pretentious and try-hard collections.

 

[mistress_f]

^sorry if i came off aggressive, i'm just amazed by the praise vetements is getting when... all i see is the same stuff i saw growing up (and perhaps, i even wore in my early teens)

like these two looks, for example:

might as well belong to Lutz and Alex, Wolfgang Tillmans' friends whose life he often documented in the 90s

collections.vam.ac.uk/

This photo is from 1992, and they were all clubbers/ravers - i'm sure if i took out one Wolfgang's books i'd probably find many people wearing the same clothes presented here.

 

[Creative]

What really irritates me is the fact that the fashion is praising something that doesn't bring ANYTHING new, refreshing or different!

What irritates me is the fact that they believe they are doing something super major, something very important, that they are changing things and bringing something to the table. They are so ******* pretentious that they do believe it.

And this just lacks any depth, any meaning. I can't even compare them to Margiela. It is an insult for fashion history.

 

[StoneSkipper]

^To think that this is intellectual in any way is just such a huge misconception. It's cheap typography masking itself as intellectuality. (Seriously, why the ~goffik~ fonts? They should have died with GTA San Andreas. And if you wanna write curse words, write them in full, please.)

If this wasn't trying so hard to be what it's not, I could get it. There are a few looks that are pretty, that mens' looks with the red plaid assymmetrical jumpsuit under thigh high boots and a "Big Daddy" cap - that's the best his vision has ever translated, I think. That's when saw "okay, that's something I can see attracting interest". But between hideous prints, unnecessary shoulderpads and "justin4ever" (that just makes me keel over and die)... it's just... it's not working.