Vetements F/W 2017.18 Paris

[MulletProof]

I wonder if Putin is also secretly (and aggressively) pushing these homeboys nobody needs in fashion but somehow we're stuck with as well and can't find a way out of even though we all know better..

Kidding, but not entirely... it was in that report, "paint a favorable image", yadda yadda.

 

[perhydrol]

I feel insulted by the ugliness of this show, especially the wedding dress (does anyone want to look that?) and the cast. And while the previous season was acceptable, this one is just pure trash. But I hope they'll get what they've been asking for and nobody will remember them in next 3 years.

 

[liberty33r1b]

when will it stop?? why can't this just go away?

 

[IloveDiorHomme]

Living in Paris I think it's just disrespectful to put a soldier like the ones we have on streets since the terrorist attacks and a homeless guy like the ones dying right now because it's freezing in the city...

Such a stupid arrogant demonstration of nothing. I don't even see "vêtements", I see the emptiness of the closet from the Emperor's new clothes.

 

[Street_a_Licious]

basically if you walk through Paris, on any given day, these are the people you'll meet, albeit through the funhouse mirror.

make a belt 6 meters long so that the end drags on the floor, slap your name on it, charge €500 minimum on it.

why buy your clothes at the mass retailer when you can spend 10x as much for the same look?

 

[jeanclaude]

This joke is not longer funny.

 

[ominao]

Yeah, we should just ignore it completely.

I really hope there will be a time when those bloody sycophants in the industry regret having engaged in this shite, calling this talentless sham a genius or revolutionary, a time when they are so ashamed of what they've done that words like “Demna Gvasalia” and “Vetements” embarrass and terrify them to death.
They are one of the primary reasons why fashion is regarded as facile, shallow, superficial and stupid.
How can you call yourself a fashion journalist, have some dignity, mate.
Shame on you.

 

[TaylorBinque]

When I saw first few looks I thought of Paris instantly since these are what I see everyday. Lots of people wear great well-worn vintage here. But jokes on them because I feel like if he wants to pretentiously comment on Paris, he has to do better than mimicking, recycling his old-news trends and styling. The army look makes me cringe. He doesn't realize that it's not a fun thing to having soldiers walking around the city because of terrorist attacks.

 

[Deleted member 7575]

Vetement's calculated irreverence has become obnoxiously cliche. Their brand of anti-fashion (pulled straight from Margiela) might have been compelling in the beginning but now I think it's ran out of steam.

These clothes are neither interesting or illuminating. Demna's ironic recontextualization of "real" clothes simply looks cheap. He used cut and construction to distinguish them from their real life inspirations but it all feels errant and uninspired. Based on what's currently in stores, we know that the sewing and fabrics won't be of the quality needed for such purposely wrong clothes to end up looking right.

The casting was both good and bad. I love a show cast with real people and I think in parts it was incredibly tender and special. But I was also left with a feeling that perhaps Vetements is trying way too hard.

Of course, there ARE some nice things. Demna did a few worthwhile updates on wardrobe classics, giving them attitude and swag. And yet, no matter how nice they could be, they're going to be made so poorly and they'll cost you an arm and a leg.

None of it really seems worth the trouble.

 

[YohjiAddict]

For me it's quite a nice offering, maybe it's just the styling but I love this "archetype gimmick" as someone called it. Miles better than his last two shows, the quality seems a bit better also. On top of this I love the fact that it makes people in here so angry ink:

 

[Pricciao]

basically if you walk through Paris, on any given day, these are the people you'll meet, albeit through the funhouse mirror.

make a belt 6 meters long so that the end drags on the floor, slap your name on it, charge €500 minimum on it.

why buy your clothes at the mass retailer when you can spend 10x as much for the same look?

The invitation is an ID card. And the theme is called "stereotype." I can't laugh at all if you're being ironic.
Realness drag ball can be scaled up as a general subculture of its own if they die hard insist and stay on track. It can be fun.

 

[Deleted member 130879]

Yohji (as your nickname reminded me) does the working class wardrobe twist (and sometimes archetype gimmick) better than anyone and without being an insulting privileged a$$. He actually looks makes something out of it, changes it, improves it, creates something new and deserving of the price tag.

Here I see nothing but oversized garments and brand stamps. I can't believe that he needs 20+ full time craftsmen/women to create this. Or do they? Because I find it difficult to believe that Vetements goes by every Haute Couture rule. Having them there smells like a stunt from the Syndical Chamber to get more press for the HC week.

 

[Pricciao]

When we are thinking if there's logic behind any fanatics, we are old. Teen mania happens without a clear reason, it comes and it wins. I never knew why nsync or Susan Boyle were it things, or Fast and Furious, and there they are, banking it with joy.

 

[bc collector]

Yohji (as your nickname reminded me) does the working class wardrobe twist (and sometimes archetype gimmick) better than anyone and without being an insulting privileged a$$. He actually looks makes something out of it, changes it, improves it, creates something new and deserving of the price tag.

Here I see nothing but oversized garments and brand stamps. I can't believe that he needs 20+ full time craftsmen/women to create this. Or do they? Because I find it difficult to believe that Vetements goes by every Haute Couture rule. Having them there smells like a stunt from the Syndical Chamber to get more press for the HC week.

My understanding is that the presence of Vetements during HC fashion week is based on purely operational motivations, as the early placement in the fashion calendar allows them to process orders, production and distribution more smoothly. On the other hand, were it not for Chanel, Dior, Valentino, Margiela and maybe Armani, it would be hard to call it HC week at all, the majority of names in the calendar, leave or take Vetements, being a pile of self-deluded, pretentious or predictable junk.

 

[lukevault]

How many times can you recycle the same drab idea?

What the point to subverse & juxtapose on endless loop for its own sake?

 

[Fashionstuff]

When I saw first few looks I thought of Paris instantly since these are what I see everyday. Lots of people wear great well-worn vintage here. But jokes on them because I feel like if he wants to pretentiously comment on Paris, he has to do better than mimicking, recycling his old-news trends and styling. The army look makes me cringe. He doesn't realize that it's not a fun thing to having soldiers walking around the city because of terrorist attacks.

That's why he called this Haute Couture!!! collection "Stereotype" . The press love him, he send second collection today , if i remember right, to runway, it will be Vetements FW 17. This one was Couture.... omg.
Maybe i am too old to understand the Hype of Vetements? But why i'm in love with Gucci? Or maybe it is simply hideous?
Anyway,Demna is very creative Person, in so short time he reached the top! Creative in sense to promote and promote himseld and same ideas many times x year...

 

[Lola701]

^^
This is not a couture collection. They are just invited by La Chambre Syndicale De La Couture. It's a way to make a bit of excitement around the Couture Week and i think it also works for them in terms of publicity and logistic.

They don't have any of what is required to be a permanent guest of COuture Week: The garnments are not entirely made by hand, they are not working with an atelier...etc.

 

[KateIsGr8]

I like the red dress styled with the orange shirt, without the shirt. The grey shoe-jeans (not sure what these are actually called) paired with the super shiny puff jacket are nice, the jacket is horrendous. This is an overall disappointing season from Vetements. I wonder how big of a role Nina Nitsche played in this?

 

[birdofparadise]

through a glass darkly

What continues to cement Vetements as leaders is the accuracy of their foreboding. What was labeled impossible is now celebrated and crowned and with it, a sense of disproportion, an embrace of hyperrealism and heightened awareness of sartorial codes (L.L. Bean. New Balance, red baseball caps) as well as an implicit threat of violence.

A gripe: the women seem subdued here, wrapped up, unaware, confused while the men are valiant, imposing, dangerous. Why the switch?

 

[whitewine82]

Yes, Vêtements and the discussion about and around Vêtements are tired.
It's just a pure ego trip. Balenciaga is basically the same thing with better quality and lower prices.

For me, that's the point. I like all this as a show, as entertainment and as a 'concept', but all this only makes sense to me as fashion when is a whisper in the Balenciaga's clothes. Besides that, it's amusing to me...

Vetements is a symptom, not the cause. Demna can do it now and be worshiped for it because THIS IS the state of fashion now, so...