Vogue Italia January 2010 : Karlie Kloss by Steven Meisel

[Mchunu]

^it's posted on the first page. Is it not showing?

 

[BerlinRocks]

i think i understand why some don't find it attractive.

but isn't it all Meisel work for some times, now ? (Paparazzi, red carpet and twitter).
I, for sure, would love that he deals with something else (for instance, what's going on in a certain part of the italian society, and even the french one, atm ... if you know what i mean : patriotism, not to b rude).

tFS is an example of what's going on in fashion, those days (ie modelizers).
i mean when i see some books like this Dior backtage thingy (if you want my opinion : a waste of money), i'm really not seeing what's wrong there.

Meisel is always very very literal. We know it !
I like this story, for what it brings to fashion magazines story. And I'll get it.
But it's true that Meisel needs to recycle himself (in terms of clue of society he wants to tell about). I want some strong stuff like Security ed (that just is sooo right right now. see the Amsterdam-Detroit flight and its consequences ...).

Meisel just show you the reality in your face. That's it !
Get it or not. It's just reality back to its simulacre. A spectacle. A parodie. A game.

Regarding, the lack of creativity .... Their Master to all is FASHION. and they show FASHION. What a production do you think it is to shoot that ?

* btw, i would like to read some about this shoot. like real fights etc.

 

[Lackuiew]

and Karlie's
"falling" poses are too exaggerated, especially that one in the middle,
its horribly unrealistic, she looks like she's breakdancing for crying
out loud.

in that pic she's trying to stand up

 

[eneroenero]

can't waittttt

 

[TPMorgan]

karlie everywhere..why?why?why?

 

[TPMorgan]

a cover featuring someone else would be ten more times better!

 

[Lanbim Cord]

I don't like the last two covers that Vogue Italia did(dec+jan)They were so amateur.
And I'm really bored of Karlie....

But,it's a great issue.

 

[scratchBOOK]

jw did she "really" fall in some of pics in the cover....

first row far right looks hurt....

 

[jeremydante]

It is the strangest editorial in the history of fashion magazines! It does not look like a real editorial and it looks so real at the same timelol

The ADS:

Chanel-some funny celebrity
Ralph laure-Valentina and Bruna tenorio
Blumarine-Doutzen Kroes(looks fooler and kinda older)
Gucci-Natasha Poly and a male model
Dolce and gabbana-Madonna
Valentino-some strange face, very unknown to me!?!
Rolex-Luciana Curties
A.Ferretti-Kasia,maybe Costance,Hanne Gaby and unknown
Ermanno Scervino-Helena Christensen
Moschino-ISABELI Fontana looking GORGEOUS!!!
Pinko-boring,boring,boring, same as before-Erin Wesson
Cesare paciotti-Isabeli Fontana-she is making millions this season)lol
Max Mara-Malgosia bela
Sportmax-Siri
Stefanel-Daria
Jeckerson-Missy Rayder
Ter et bantine-Luca gadjus
and the only real editorial looking thing is an advertorial for caprisa with an unknown model on 8 pages-bags story
Janet&Janet-Eva herzigova

The beauty section which normaly is an editorial this time is real backstage beauty shots by bardo Fabiani...some really nice shots...1st page SIRI(great portrait) then 4 unknowns and then 1 great page with Vlada looking fresh and beautiful!

1 good photo of Hanne Gaby in the beauty news section by Richard Burbridge

4 horrifying pages with runway pics advertising FUR!?! shame on you editors!

a great Giuseppe Zanotti ad with male supermodel Andres Segura!

And the first issue of Italian Vogue without any VERSACE ADS!!!!! I guess Donatella bancrupted)lol
then 80 pages-the main editorial
then the few usual backstage pages by Anna Piaggi with tanya,Vivienne,Kim and 3 others.
back cover-Giorgio Armani ad with an unknown model!

It is a thin issue, not as thin as US Vogue, but still relatively thin...there is also a runway supplement!

That's all folks!

thanks for all the information; the "strange face" for valentino is dree hemingway.

 

[nyc_art_style]

Meisel is always very very literal. We know it !
I like this story, for what it brings to fashion magazines story. And I'll get it.
But it's true that Meisel needs to recycle himself (in terms of clue of society he wants to tell about). I want some strong stuff like Security ed (that just is sooo right right now. see the Amsterdam-Detroit flight and its consequences ...).

I don't think Meisel is very literal. Tons of Meisel's editorials have great new perspectives on current events or popular topics. The State of Emergency editorial with Hilary Rhoda, The Dogging editorial, Make Love not War from September 2007, and Rehab are four great examples. There are tons of examples, too many to go searching through tfs for their proper names. Meisel used to add something special to the topics he chose to photograph. However for the pass few months his work for Vogue Italia has not been doing that, and I don't understand why.

edit: I see now I did not quote Berlin properly so I changed my statement.

 

[Tаsh]

can't wait to see scans!

 

[iperlchen]

tFS is an example of what's going on in fashion, those days (ie modelizers).
i mean when i see some books like this Dior backtage thingy (if you want my opinion : a waste of money), i'm really not seeing what's wrong there.

Meisel is always very very literal. We know it !
I like this story, for what it brings to fashion magazines story. And I'll get it.
But it's true that Meisel needs to recycle himself (in terms of clue of society he wants to tell about). I want some strong stuff like Security ed (that just is sooo right right now. see the Amsterdam-Detroit flight and its consequences ...).

Meisel just show you the reality in your face. That's it !
Get it or not. It's just reality back to its simulacre. A spectacle. A parodie. A game.

Regarding, the lack of creativity .... Their Master to all is FASHION. and they show FASHION. What a production do you think it is to shoot that ?

* btw, i would like to read some about this shoot. like real fights etc.

The things Meisel could do with BODYSCAN.

 

[user.n.]

(Mondino also did a nice ed for The Face in this topic. Watch it here.)

The inside ed is not as great as the cover. I was waiting more... At least the idea was interesting.

 

[Mr-Dale]

The things Meisel could do with BODYSCAN.

That just blew up my imagination

 

[j'adorekapusta]

I don't think Meisel is very literal. Tons of Meisel's editorials have great new perspectives on current events or popular topics. The State of Emergency editorial with Hilary Rhoda, The Dogging editorial, Make Love not War from September 2007, and Rehab are four great examples. There are tons of examples, too many to go searching through tfs for their proper names. Meisel used to add something special to the topics he chose to photograph. However for the pass few months his work for Vogue Italia has not been doing that, and I don't understand why.

edit: I see now I did not quote Berlin properly so I changed my statement.

i think what BerlinRocks meant here was that once you know where Steven Meisel's inspiration comes from it's pretty easy to see this resemblance between 'the source' and 'the outcome' in his work. once the team gets this source, they go quite literal with the reinterpretation which gets to the point of a very sought-after, very detailed recreation of a frame (if it comes to film inspiration as with Meisel's Woman In Dunes or Persona edits) or a certain visual aesthetic (Twitter or Dodging edits). it still takes a huge talent and a huge production to get this kind of work done but still the spreads appear to be quite derivative artistically. who knows, maybe that's the point of not going too elitist with references?
as for this particular editorial, i don't see why all the negative rage is out there. it has got to the point where the expectations for each VI issue (and cover/main edit in particular) are so high it's just ridiculous. it's not even funny to be Steven Meisel nowadays - everyone seems to know better what a VI cover should look like, what it should take to make a proper edit and who should be featured on a cover. and this edit is quite a good observation and quite a warning even for us, here on tfs. take a look at any model's thread - we get hundreds of runway candids, any size, any frame, any source. but then it's just the same looks, same shows and same girl in every shot. we've got so obsessed with consuming this type of information we don't even notice how disposable it is anymore.
with infinity (and at this point with certain absurdity) of the Web what we get is an endless repetition and rotation of the same things - websites, blogs, forums you name it. the very sense of it gets lost once everything we can think of is trying to be the first one to post some new candid, twit it, tumblr it, tfs it or anything. it's a never ending pursuit of putting out something new. at this point i think this edit sends quite a good message. once a magazine can't be bothered with thinking what it is it wants to translate (therefore, direct and influence fashion) all we get is runway pics and backstage snaps. this is fast food of fashion photography - easy to produce, easy to consume. but when you take spontaneity and virtual insider access away, what is left out there?

 

[Mchunu]

^excellence

 

[muglerette]

bravo j'adorekapusta you are so right!!!!!!!!!


just face it....all the internetstuff,blogs etc. are destroying the hard work.......do u all remeber the times when we all been so excited when the new magazines came out...the january and the august/september issues....to see what the designer did....now we see it right away or a day later at so many pages.......copies are in the shops before the originals are there...people are getting bored so easily because they see everything so many times......
i think meisels stories are always cool and artistic and he is not afraid to show "new" ideas...

i have so much respect when i see his work..........



bravo vogue italy
bravo meisel!!




for being so influential for over 20 years!!!!

 

[tocceve]

Is there a list of all models posted? Are they credited on the last page of the editorial?
I coun't 35 and I heard of a bigger number that's why I'm asking.

Can anyone add names?

Agyness Deyn
Aminata
Anna de Rijk
Anna Selezneva
Daria Strokous
Freja Beha Erichsen
Frida Gustavsson
Hanne Gaby Odiele
Irina Kulikova
Iris Strubegger
Isabeli Fontana
Iselin Steiro
Jac
Jamie Bochert
Kamila Filipcikova
Karen Elson
Karlie Kloss
Kasia Struss
Kendra Spears
Lara Stone
Lily Donaldson
Liya Kebede
Magdalena Frackowiak
Mirte Maas
Natasha Poly
Patricia van der Vliet
Ranya Mordanova
Rianne ten Haken
Rose Cordero
Sasha Pivovarova
Sessilee Lopez
Sigrid Agren
Siri Tollerod
Snejana Onopka
Viktoriya Sasonkina


By the way, ironic how this adds to the runway/backstage theme because this looks like one of the the Fashion Spot's runway model showlist.

 

[elsaskywalker]

They said 38 models right?
I don't other models on the posted pictures... maybe there's other pics!

 

[BerlinRocks]

i think what BerlinRocks meant here was that once you know where Steven Meisel's inspiration comes from it's pretty easy to see this resemblance between 'the source' and 'the outcome' in his work. once the team gets this source, they go quite literal with the reinterpretation which gets to the point of a very sought-after, very detailed recreation of a frame (if it comes to film inspiration as with Meisel's Woman In Dunes or Persona edits) or a certain visual aesthetic (Twitter or Dodging edits). it still takes a huge talent and a huge production to get this kind of work done but still the spreads appear to be quite derivative artistically. who knows, maybe that's the point of not going too elitist with references?
as for this particular editorial, i don't see why all the negative rage is out there. it has got to the point where the expectations for each VI issue (and cover/main edit in particular) are so high it's just ridiculous. it's not even funny to be Steven Meisel nowadays - everyone seems to know better what a VI cover should look like, what it should take to make a proper edit and who should be featured on a cover. and this edit is quite a good observation and quite a warning even for us, here on tfs. take a look at any model's thread - we get hundreds of runway candids, any size, any frame, any source. but then it's just the same looks, same shows and same girl in every shot. we've got so obsessed with consuming this type of information we don't even notice how disposable it is anymore.
with infinity (and at this point with certain absurdity) of the Web what we get is an endless repetition and rotation of the same things - websites, blogs, forums you name it. the very sense of it gets lost once everything we can think of is trying to be the first one to post some new candid, twit it, tumblr it, tfs it or anything. it's a never ending pursuit of putting out something new. at this point i think this edit sends quite a good message. once a magazine can't be bothered with thinking what it is it wants to translate (therefore, direct and influence fashion) all we get is runway pics and backstage snaps. this is fast food of fashion photography - easy to produce, easy to consume. but when you take spontaneity and virtual insider access away, what is left out there?

* thanks for translating me ...

and what a post !