What Are Your Thoughts On Plastic Surgery?

[Dulcisima]

I think plastic surgery is becoming so common, its becoming the next "designer luxury" that people are lusting over...you know when you carry an LV bag or a spy bag and you walk down the streets and you spot another girl carrying the same bag? thats my thoughts on plastic surgery, hence the word plastic...it makes ladies nowadays look so plasticy and its somewhat addicted..people start focusing on what to do next...and people seek perfection! when perfection isnt neccessary beauty! i think imperfection is beautiful...and i know its been overexhausted the saying that inner beauty is more important than outter beauty..but its true...when a person is soo secure and confident of her/himself you get a distinctive beautiful vibe that attracts you to him/her.
I also think that there are other alternatives than extreme plastic surgeries...for example liposuction, why not run and watch your diet? i think there are many who would argue that there are exceptions...but my argument why do we always look for the easy way out? why cant we work hard for it? its like when your building a house and its not built with a strong foundation it would fall down easily, same with liposuction easy way out....and when you gain weight, you gain it at other places! at least before you knew were your problem areas area...with liposuction it may eliminate ur exisiting problem area but then over time it creates new problem areas...with a proper diet and exercise your working with your body, establishing solid foundation and you learn more about your body....and you would appreciate it more...because you worked hard to get there...

now those who suffered accidents etc...i do understand the need of reconstructive surgery,,,but those who stare at the mirror for long and think that there is something wrong with themseleves, i am against it...

 

[Guessgirl96]

I just had my nose job as well as a little more juvederm yesterday and am recovering. Pain is mild with vicodin but it feels like the worst congestion I've ever had times like a million. I cant breath through my nose at all and there is so much pressure all over my head.

What do they put in your mouth during anesthesia? My teeth hurt. I have to sleep upright and cant shower or brush my teeth for 9 days but overall I dont feel too horrible. I have no idea if I smell and I cant taste anything I eat. I just hope everything heels well and looks great. The doctor was running late with his surgery today but the nurse said I'm healing great which is nice to hear. I have school off until next wed but I really cant miss that much of my harder classes so I'll be going 2 days after surgery I cant believe I have time off but still going to classes looking like I do.

I did tons of research on the doctor so I'm hopeful it'll look great. If anyone cares to see I can post before and after pics, I have during pics too

 

[justlooking]

i'll be looking forward to your pics Guessgirl96, though i do recall you being perfectly beautiful from images I saw of you for some kind of pageant contest a couple of years ago?? i think it was...

 

[Guessgirl96]

thanks justlooking! Theres nothing really wrong with my nose, it's mostly just a little tweaking. The surgeon thinned out my bulbous tip, shaved down a tiny bump, narrowed the bridge and added 1 mm to the bottom of my nose. He said it would give the illusion of my eyes being closer together and make the space between the bottom of my nose and lip smaller bringing better harmony to my face.

Your right about juvederm. I dont think any of it was broken down since the last time I got it, I just wanted a tiny bit more in the nasolabial folds and a little bit from the corner of my lip had moved up. It's very variable from person to person but in general lasts about 4-6 months in the lips 6-9 months in the nasolabial folds. If you do get it a good tip is to not chew gum since movement breaks it down. A nurse also told me it lasts longer on younger people.

 

[The_Ida]

I'm so happy to hear the surgery went well GG My surgery is sceduled for July...I'm so excited! Pain doesn't bother me, I've had a kidney removed and had some complications - and nothing hurts like broken ribs

 

[Tondo]

my thoughts are that because anyone can be beautiful if they had the money, it only counts if one is born that way.

 

[Hanne]

^not sure I follow the logic in that..
Why do you think it only counts if you are born with it?

 

[tigerrouge]

If what counts is the way you're born, then beauties shouldn't be allowed to dye or chemically process their hair, because that's changing one of their natural features via artifical means.

But we've come to accept hair treatments as a perfectly ordinary and acceptable form of grooming, a way of 'changing your look'.

 

[Tondo]

by "counts" i mean remarkable. it just seems so easy. just pay money and you're pretty. it kind of trivializes natural beauty. so i don't see the point in it. nobody is naturally perfect.

furthermore i don't think plastic surgery is bad per se. i personally don't like it as an option to enhance beauty. but i like the idea of body modification for the sake of personal expression. so it's a sort of beauty vs. art thing to me.

edit: that's a good point tigerrouge... i think for me it's not the same thing because it's not as permanent.

 

[luisa]

I've had plastic surgery and i would do it again (did the nose).

I think it is a beautiful opportunity these days to be able to change something that really bothers you. (for example a big nose, i am NOT talking about these all-the-same-looking girls, women with their LA nose, lips, boobs. I am also not talking about getting addicted and ending up as a clown.

the difference between good and bad plastic surgery is that the good one looks like you are born with it.
the bad one even if the doctor did a good job as it is, is that you look like (for example the nose) has been done by a famous doctor XY (i hope you understand what i mean)

I wish you Guessgirl a good recovery and that you will be happy with it!

One advice i can share with you, if you want get something done (TheIda) and everybody else: Make sure that you feel like you can TALK to the doctor, that he really understands you! This is very important. That you feel like you can trust him, that he understood what you want. Better be annoying with questions and/or always repeating what you want and what you don't want; because they can easily forget something when you lay in anesthesia in front of him.

And don't forget that (esp noses) DO NOT look like they will after a couple of months. so if it might look a little weird, don't freak out.
Hope that might helped

 

[The_Ida]

I really feel like I can talk to my doctor (her name is Luisa too ), and she immediately knew exactly what I wanted done to my nose before even had a chance to tell her. She is so great. And she wrote me a letter stating all the things we want to do to my nose D) so I have it in writing...

 

[luisa]

I really feel like I can talk to my doctor (her name is Luisa too ), and she immediately knew exactly what I wanted done to my nose before even had a chance to tell her. She is so great. And she wrote me a letter stating all the things we want to do to my nose D) so I have it in writing...

This sounds very good! (not the name i mean ). It is always very good when the doctor starts to talk by him/herself and start with suggestions. There are may doctors who let you first say what you'd like to have, and then say that they totally agree with you.
I wish you all the best with it!

 

[angela xx]

My parents have finally decided that I'm old enough and have fully stopped growing so that I can get my nose done (I'm 19). I'm going in for a consult with a reputable surgeon next week just to get a price estimate, make sure I feel comfortable with her, etc. although I won't actually be getting my surgery until sometime in the summer (it's the only time my schedule would allow because of school).

But my question is for those of you who have had rhinoplasty, how have you dealt with other peoples' reactions? Did you straight out tell everyone you've had work done? Or did you keep it a secret, i.e. saying you changed your hair/makeup/lost weight/etc. and it's just giving the illusion that your nose has changed?

I know it's all my own insecurities, but I'm not sure how well I could handle peoples' reactions if they knew that I got a nose job. People would think I'm shallow and fake, and people who never knew/saw me before the procedure but heard that I had work done might think that I was hideously ugly before and that's why I needed the surgery. So I was thinking about going with the latter response and lying. I'm not getting any major changes, I just want to narrow my nostrils a bit and add an implant to the bridge of my nose. My plan was to change my hair cut and color and makeup (it's been the same everyday for years), so that I could pull off telling people that it's just an illusion that my face looks different.

Would this work, or would it eventually come back to bite me in the a**?
And I would love to see your before and after pictures, Guessgirl

 

[luisa]

i told only my best friends. i also didn't go anywhere with the tape on my nose.
IF people asked me if i had something done, i -honestly-made it dependent if i like them or not, or what mood i have. (sometimes i am more in a talking mood, and sometimes i can be a dragon ). of course i only told it people who i knew i can trust.

i don't think that it is something to be ashamed of and i don't think that it means that you have been an ugly duck before. but people are jealous often and they ALWAYS find something to talk bad about if they want.
I mean, really: you can't turn an ugly person into a beauty with a nose job. that's ridiculous. you just can make a beautiful face even more beautiful with one (good) surgery. some people are so stupid.

and believe me: you will be very surprised how many people won't recognize it! i was, definitely.
just change something with your hair and stay cool when somebody asks you or looks strange at you

My parents have finally decided that I'm old enough and have fully stopped growing so that I can get my nose done (I'm 19). I'm going in for a consult with a reputable surgeon next week just to get a price estimate, make sure I feel comfortable with her, etc. although I won't actually be getting my surgery until sometime in the summer (it's the only time my schedule would allow because of school).

But my question is for those of you who have had rhinoplasty, how have you dealt with other peoples' reactions? Did you straight out tell everyone you've had work done? Or did you keep it a secret, i.e. saying you changed your hair/makeup/lost weight/etc. and it's just giving the illusion that your nose has changed?

I know it's all my own insecurities, but I'm not sure how well I could handle peoples' reactions if they knew that I got a nose job. People would think I'm shallow and fake, and people who never knew/saw me before the procedure but heard that I had work done might think that I was hideously ugly before and that's why I needed the surgery. So I was thinking about going with the latter response and lying. I'm not getting any major changes, I just want to narrow my nostrils a bit and add an implant to the bridge of my nose. My plan was to change my hair cut and color and makeup (it's been the same everyday for years), so that I could pull off telling people that it's just an illusion that my face looks different.

Would this work, or would it eventually come back to bite me in the a**?
And I would love to see your before and after pictures, Guessgirl

 

[Guessgirl96]

Thanks for the kind wishes! recovery is not as bad as I expected, eyebags went away on the 3rd day, most of my breathing is back and theres just a little swelling around my mouth. I can already see the bulbous tip and projection has been taken down even with the splint on so I'm really excited, but really nervous that I'm smiling too much or that I'll fall on my face or something.

angela - I was honest about it and told anyone who asked. I did feel uncomfortable in class with the splint and stiches but I didnt worry about it too much. I'm not doing it for anyone else so they can think what they will.

luisa - I agree that communication is important and thats something I missed with my PS. He is not very personable and can come off as pretentious although I think he's actually shy and kind, but doesnt show it well. I saw him for about 10 minutes for the consult, under 5 for the pre op and I wont be seeing him after the surgery unless I have a problem. I felt like I was wasting his time with any questions so I looked up everything I was curious about online. Though to his credit, it was clear what I wanted and I agreed with what he wanted to do. Having seen his work on a friend and knowing his reputation I had more trust in him than I would normally recommend. and oh yeah - He had a desk that opens up in the middle that I was a little too amused by

 

[The_Ida]

Wow. I talked with my doctor for 45 mins. She takes her time to be sure that I understand the possible side effects and consequences and to make sure that I'm...well, sane We talked a lot about the outcome of the surgery and the healing process too.

 

[GasolineRainbow]

i don't think that it is something to be ashamed of and i don't think that it means that you have been an ugly duck before. but people are jealous often and they ALWAYS find something to talk bad about if they want.
I mean, really: you can't turn an ugly person into a beauty with a nose job. that's ridiculous. you just can make a beautiful face even more beautiful with one (good) surgery. some people are so stupid.

I don't think it's something to be ashamed of at all, but that doesn't mean I always approve of someone's decision to get a nosejob; may I ask why disapproval is necessarily jealous or stupid? I'm neither jealous nor stupid. Besides, I would never ask someone if they had plastic surgery unless they were a close friend of mine. And if that close friend did have plastic surgery, I would try to be supportive and respectful.

I do think nosejobs can make an "ugly" (ugly word, but..) person pretty or even beautiful. Noses are the defining feature of our face. You can still be beautiful if you have flaws like close-set eyes or an asymmetrical jawline, but if your nose is very flawed, then you're screwed. What I will never comprehend is why people who are perceived as gorgeous by everyone around them choose to get nosejobs. I've known a girl for years who the boys always lusted after, who'd get stopped on the street by strangers to tell her how beautiful she was, who was randomly scouted by model agents a few times. She got a nosejob recently, and yes, I get it, her nose is perfect now. But really, I don't get it...

In my opinion, an already beautiful person does not become even more beautiful with a nosejob or any kind of plastic surgery. As Fashionista-ta said on another thread, "Where other people see perfection, I see brittleness." It doesn't matter to me how subtle or unnoticeable the change is, because I simply cannot find beauty in something that was superfluous and unnecessary.

 

[Guessgirl96]

I agree with luisa that I dont think a nose job can make an unattractive person pretty unless there was some kind of birth defect or deformity. Actually, I think it's rare that any amount of surgeries can do that. While I can see what you mean by not finding something unnecessary and superfluous beautiful, when you meet someone and make an opinion on how they look, you dont typically know if they've had anything done so you cant come to that conclusion unless they tell you.

 

[luisa]

GasolineRainbow:
I was referring to the experiences that I made. I wasn't saying that people who totally are against plastic surgery are stupid or jealous. i was talking about people who just and only want to find something to critzise. i don't know why you had to referr that to you, as somebody who doesn't approve surgery at all, because that it a different thing.

i used the word "ugly", because i was referring to what angela xx said ( that OTHER people might think of her that she was "ugly" before). Believe me, i am the last person to be that superficial and mean to say about somebody he/she is ugly. i am not like that. i know that i (actually nobody) has the right to say something like that about somebody else.
Of course a nose job (if your nose is very flawed) can do a lot for somebody's face. But if the rest of your face isn't beautiful aswell, surgery won't turn you into a beauty. And when people say about somebody who had a big nose before surgery, that he/she was "ugly" before, they just weren't able to see the beauty (for example of the face/bone structure) with a big nose. i think it is not right then to say that somebody is only beautiful now, because of a nose job. a flawd nose just takes the attention of the beholder to the less beautiful feature.
The girl you are talking about, who was gorgous before the surgery, i can't say anything about. i don't know her, and if you say that she didn't "need" (i know, nobody needs it) a nose job, it's up to her. It is often that these kind of girls were always the sweet, pretty girl their whole life. they might think that their beauty is all they have and that it why they are so insecure about it and always determined to improve it.
But in my case, i can ensure you that nobody of the people around me who saw it (except my parents of course) said that i had such a nice nose. everybody was honest and said that they could understand me and my decision

I guess we do agree that beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder.

 

[Guessgirl96]

I got the splint taken off today. When the nurse first showed me the mirror my first thought was omg - that is not me. It was really weird since it was like I was looking at someone else in the mirror. When I just had juvederm I could see the difference, but my overall look was the same. I think lengthening the nose is what really made my face look different even though it was just by 1mm. My second thought was wow, my nose is tiny. It was kind of a shock at first since I was so used to my old nose. It's like when I got hair extensions for the first time I didnt really like it, but now I cant live without them. The nose is actually a good size that fits my face well.

The profile and bridge are flawless, theres some funkiness going on at the tip/nostrils but thats to be expected for the first few weeks or months and the dr doesn't judge the final result until 1 year after. The nurse said it looks great for 9 days. Assuming it all heals up well, I love the result so I'm praying there wont be any problems. It brings better harmony to my face just like the dr said. I'll post before/after pics when more of the swelling has gone down and it evens out a little.