What Are Your Thoughts On Plastic Surgery?
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when you get lip injections... can you see any puncture marks or holes around the lip?
there is a lady I know who I suspect has lip injections... and up close, she has a tiny puncture mark right in the middle of her cupid's bow... is this merely coincidence?
there is a lady I know who I suspect has lip injections... and up close, she has a tiny puncture mark right in the middle of her cupid's bow... is this merely coincidence?
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plastic surgery in many cases is merely vain, and a sign of wasted energy and self-obsession. if not, it's usually an indicator of anxiety and low self-esteem. I say that as somebody recovering from pretty severe BDD... in the case of severe deformities I think almost all agree that it can be wonderfully life-changing, but in other cases I find it disappointing.
Pfft, nothing wrong with spending money and time on yourself. Nothing wrong with vanity and self-obsession! In most cases it's barely an issue of self esteem- just an mere, unharmful desire to make yourself look better. I mean, look at Ida, she's so freakin' gorgeous I doubt her rhinoplasty had anything to do with self esteem. She was just taking advantage of Denmark's generous health care system 
agreed 100%!!!
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On the other hand, if a person has the spare cash to spend on a procedure, who are we to say that they need to spend that money on seeing a psychologist instead? Each individual will have their own motivations.
We constantly hear about the grotesque aspects of plastic surgery, but we don't hear much about the other side of it, the one where normal people get something done and everything goes fine and they get on with life. That doesn't make for a shock-horror article about the come-uppance of daring to change your appearance.
We constantly hear about the grotesque aspects of plastic surgery, but we don't hear much about the other side of it, the one where normal people get something done and everything goes fine and they get on with life. That doesn't make for a shock-horror article about the come-uppance of daring to change your appearance.
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^I paid for it myselfBut it would indeed have been glorious if I didn't have to shell out $6000
Aww, yeah exactly!
I think people should really reserve their judgments until they actually know the details behind the surgery.(I totally feel you, my flat nose annoys the hell out of me...
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um for ppl to say that plastic surgery is "many cases is merely vain, and a sign of wasted energy and self-obsession" is completely rubbish. if some one is not happy with themselves and constantly upset what that means they have to be like that their entire life? NO i think if getting plastic surgery would improve their self esteem and make them feel confident in them self then they should do it!..
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Don't get me wrong, I don't blame people for doing what they feel they've got to do to survive in our sick culture.
lol. this message board.
lol. this message board.
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You actually did do that.
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I don't have to like it. but it wouldn't really factor much into my opinion of a person one way or the other. I wish people would resist these influences in our society(s) more passionately. those are my values.
I totally agree with you nevernude. I wasnt particularly happy with the nose i was born with so i thought why not change it..i hastily went ahead and had my nose done. What ends up happening in most cases of rhinoplasty is that people start seeing other faults after the initial surgery and then with time they get obsessed and this gets dangerous leading to bdd.
I have struggled with this and i know many that have been in the same boat...u either get obsessed with urself after one surgery or you get depressed..best to stick it out with what nature has given you.
pardon my disgraceful english im in a rush!!!!!!
I have struggled with this and i know many that have been in the same boat...u either get obsessed with urself after one surgery or you get depressed..best to stick it out with what nature has given you.
pardon my disgraceful english im in a rush!!!!!!
Errrmmm. That is 100% not true. That is a lie.
This is why it is super important that your surgeon makes a psycholigical evaluation of you (it's also required by law in Denmark) - you most likely weren't fit for having that kind if surgery at all.
I can assure you that I am perfectly healthy, sane and content with how I look.
Lite_Brite,If it were merely a result of sick culture ( I assume by that you mean "Western" culture since you seem to be American) then why is it that every culture in the world has many forms of body modification? From Africa, to Asia, to Oceania etc, every continent (and every region within each continent) has had it's own idea of beautification for centuries.
This is not to say that your opinion is completely invalid since there are people who impose their standards of beauty on others, which I agree is sick and shallow. And yes, many people want to change a physical feature because they feel insecure, but that is only human and for some the idea that one can possibly feel more secure in herself can be very worthwhile. Some people can find confidence in the traits they dislike over time which is commendable, others struggle fiercely to do so and in the end, hesitantly decide to try another option of body modification. And again, others have only a small, nearly unnoticeable "flaw" that they would like to change just for the sake of balance or based on their personal preferences.
I agree that body image can become a slippery slope for many of us, and I identify with some of the issues you have struggled with, but it is not ones place to judge what others do to their bodies, especially without knowing their personal journeys to that point. Many people dislike tattoos and find them unattractive, but we can be sure that, to a person that has been tattooed, this permanent mark has significance. The same can be said for most cosmetic surgery. On television we see drastic cases of addiction, and botched basement collagen treatments done by unqualified "surgeons", people getting treble-G sized implants just so they know they have the largest set in the world etc. But if one takes the time to look at a cosmetic surgery forum, most people are interested in rather conservative, finesse procedures. They worry about friends and family not recognising them but in the end are disappointed to see that most people never even notice a change until it is pointed out. And of course you see a few who have undergone several surgeries, but most only undergo a primary, or at most one revision if they dislike how their surgery has settled after a year or so. More importantly, most come out of the procedure a bit happier.
I don't assume that this will change you opinion, and there is nothing wrong with that since it is clear that your opinion comes from a place of espousing and encouraging self acceptance
. But for me one thing that may also be paired with these ideas of self acceptance is acceptance of other grown people's choices. They may seem saddening to you, but if you try to put your self in the shoes of another maybe you can see how one or two small changes can be worthwhile to another. Even if it only means a small change physically it may reap a large change in another persons confidence.
These are just my thoughts on your commentary, although I don't agree with all of your points, I see and respect the reasons why these opinions have come about.
This is not to say that your opinion is completely invalid since there are people who impose their standards of beauty on others, which I agree is sick and shallow. And yes, many people want to change a physical feature because they feel insecure, but that is only human and for some the idea that one can possibly feel more secure in herself can be very worthwhile. Some people can find confidence in the traits they dislike over time which is commendable, others struggle fiercely to do so and in the end, hesitantly decide to try another option of body modification. And again, others have only a small, nearly unnoticeable "flaw" that they would like to change just for the sake of balance or based on their personal preferences.
I agree that body image can become a slippery slope for many of us, and I identify with some of the issues you have struggled with, but it is not ones place to judge what others do to their bodies, especially without knowing their personal journeys to that point. Many people dislike tattoos and find them unattractive, but we can be sure that, to a person that has been tattooed, this permanent mark has significance. The same can be said for most cosmetic surgery. On television we see drastic cases of addiction, and botched basement collagen treatments done by unqualified "surgeons", people getting treble-G sized implants just so they know they have the largest set in the world etc. But if one takes the time to look at a cosmetic surgery forum, most people are interested in rather conservative, finesse procedures. They worry about friends and family not recognising them but in the end are disappointed to see that most people never even notice a change until it is pointed out
. And of course you see a few who have undergone several surgeries, but most only undergo a primary, or at most one revision if they dislike how their surgery has settled after a year or so. More importantly, most come out of the procedure a bit happier.I don't assume that this will change you opinion, and there is nothing wrong with that since it is clear that your opinion comes from a place of espousing and encouraging self acceptance
. But for me one thing that may also be paired with these ideas of self acceptance is acceptance of other grown people's choices. They may seem saddening to you, but if you try to put your self in the shoes of another maybe you can see how one or two small changes can be worthwhile to another. Even if it only means a small change physically it may reap a large change in another persons confidence. These are just my thoughts on your commentary, although I don't agree with all of your points, I see and respect the reasons why these opinions have come about.
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The tip of my nose is still pretty sore, does anyone know when that will go away? And I sneeze a lot, like 5-10 times daily. Sometimes even more
I'm sure it can be very different depending on the person and dr, but my soreness went away as soon as the incision healed. I believe you had closed rhino tho so you shouldn't have visible incisions, but it was around 3-4 wks for the soreness to go away. I had numbness right around the incision for about 5-6 months, for some people it never goes away. Right now theres no pain but my nose definitely does feel "off", like its something attached to my face and not a part of me... It's uncomfertable if I brush up against my nose when getting dressed or something. I think it may be the swelling still but a freind of mine had rhino several years ago and said his nose still feels a little strange.
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when you get lip injections... can you see any puncture marks or holes around the lip?
there is a lady I know who I suspect has lip injections... and up close, she has a tiny puncture mark right in the middle of her cupid's bow... is this merely coincidence?
I have never seen this... either bad dr or weird skin reaction.
