Alber Elbaz - Designer

[fer19dog]

Interesting enough Alber just opened an instagram account @alberelbaz8

 

[Kaye Beeh]

I knew Alber had been quiet on something for a while, this is getting juicy. How this unfolds, wowwie.

 

[Fashionstuff]

This "Lanvin Story" really works against Alber's career.
Nymphaea posted the complet article yet,only in this article can find a lot, " makes Elbaz professional life not easy.
I think Dior doesn't need such "pubblicity" ,so, i'll be very surpised if Dior will take Elbaz in this, actual, circumstances , ( i wrote i uner Dior thread yet)

Source WWD.com

He urged Wang and Huiban to cease questioning his creative work, or he would grant a long interview to defend his reputation, or seek legal action to gag them.

this also:

Source : WWD.com

Meanwhile, in the Nov. 6 letter, also seen by WWD, Huiban described Elbaz’s ouster as “inevitable” given a degradation in his relations with the company.

She described his “aggression” towards management, urging Wang to sell the company and making other “grave” and “groundless” accusations.

wwd.com

 

[nastassia]

I would say that Albert has behaved quite gracefully since his departure, and it seems only the bad comments from Wang forced him to come forward to defend himself...

 

[fashionista-ta]

I daresay Dior knows what bad behavior looks like, and this is not it.

Perhaps it would have been best to keep this private, but Alber's track record speaks for itself IMO.

I don't know if this is a factor or not, but I've noticed in some parts of the world an expectation of subservience on the part of employees (in this case a very senior one) that doesn't translate well to the West. Being majority stockholder is different from being queen.

 

[arlekindearrabal]

Interesting enough Alber just opened an instagram account @alberelbaz8

Interesting development...

 

[Fashionstuff]

I daresay Dior knows what bad behavior looks like, and this is not it.

Perhaps it would have been best to keep this private, but Alber's track record speaks for itself IMO.

I don't know if this is a factor or not, but I've noticed in some parts of the world an expectation of subservience on the part of employees (in this case a very senior one) that doesn't translate well to the West. Being majority stockholder is different from being queen.

I'm not sure Dior wants any behavior.
It means again journalists which will write about Elbaz and sure , also about Lanvin Story. Dior need designer which will reinvent the House. They need press which will write about Dior. IMO
In the first Moment i was sure Dior will take Elbaz but all this articles works against Elbaz in this case.
Wang has nothing to loose, Lanvin is her's.
Maybe Elbaz will make his own Brand? But to make it famous worldwide is not so easy. I'm wondering why he didn't do it before? Was he sure about his future in Lanvin?
Who knows... We can only wait and hope to see Elbaz at the helm of one famous brand.

 

[Benn98]

I'm not sure Dior wants any behavior.
It means again journalists which will write about Elbaz and sure , also about Lanvin Story. Dior need designer which will reinvent the House. They need press which will write about Dior. IMO
In the first Moment i was sure Dior will take Elbaz but all this articles works against Elbaz in this case.
Wang has nothing to loose, Lanvin is her's.
Maybe Elbaz will make his own Brand? But to make it famous worldwide is not so easy. I'm wondering why he didn't do it before? Was he sure about his future in Lanvin?
Who knows... We can only wait and hope to see Elbaz at the helm of one famous brand.

You're so very right! Alber would be a bad idea for Dior right now, he's got way too much baggage and intrigue. And I also doubt whether a signature brand would even be a good/profitable idea. We'll have to wait and see at this point be because the way I see it, this intrigue will take some time to conclude. Also, it doesnt seem like Alber made any plans to move to another house? He actually believes he can go back after that veiled threat? Wishful thinking!

 

[fashionista-ta]

I'm not sure Dior wants any behavior.
It means again journalists which will write about Elbaz and sure , also about Lanvin Story. Dior need designer which will reinvent the House. They need press which will write about Dior. IMO
In the first Moment i was sure Dior will take Elbaz but all this articles works against Elbaz in this case.
Wang has nothing to loose, Lanvin is her's.
Maybe Elbaz will make his own Brand? But to make it famous worldwide is not so easy. I'm wondering why he didn't do it before? Was he sure about his future in Lanvin?
Who knows... We can only wait and hope to see Elbaz at the helm of one famous brand.

There's been no indication that Alber wants to go to Dior, but we do know for a fact that Dior approached him before.

You make a good point that Wang may be close to rock bottom at this point, with nothing more to lose.

 

[fashionista-ta]

You're so very right! Alber would be a bad idea for Dior right now, he's got way too much baggage and intrigue. And I also doubt whether a signature brand would even be a good/profitable idea. We'll have to wait and see at this point be because the way I see it, this intrigue will take some time to conclude. Also, it doesnt seem like Alber made any plans to move to another house? He actually believes he can go back after that veiled threat? Wishful thinking!

Where did you get this idea?

 

[arlekindearrabal]

You're so very right! Alber would be a bad idea for Dior right now, he's got way too much baggage and intrigue. And I also doubt whether a signature brand would even be a good/profitable idea. We'll have to wait and see at this point be because the way I see it, this intrigue will take some time to conclude. Also, it doesnt seem like Alber made any plans to move to another house? He actually believes he can go back after that veiled threat? Wishful thinking!

I think this is the best way forward for Alber. He has all this flawless design reputation and name recognition already, he can only build upon it at his own house. Why go into the lion's den at Dior or any other major house, where he will be subject to so much pressure and micromanagement?

The fact that he's joined Instagram tells me he's considering the option, at the very least.

 

[softgrey]

that brand isn't worth much without him...
lanvin sounds nice and all...
and they have a good logo...

but that is about all they have without elbaz's creative vision...


gucci really is a good example...
even though i am no tom ford disciple...
he really WAS that brand- along with roitfeld and testino...
he will be forever associated with it and they really never managed to reach that high level of success once he was gone...
*YSL was another story...he shouldn't have tried to change YSL into gucci jr...
...

and, in effect, anyone who they hire after elbaz will be doing lanvin, jr...
i'll take the original, thank you...
especially at those prices~!~!!!
...

you know...
at a party recently someone had a great bag that was gorgeously soft buttery leather...
when asked, they said it was lanvin and the conversation IMMEDIATELY became about how much we love alber and how lovely he is and how we love his work, etc...
nothing about the label or the brand...blah blah...
it wasn't - omg i love lanvin...it was- omg i love alber!

this was before the recent events transpired and he was fired...

it goes to show, imo, that everyone who owns and wears lanvin really only care about elbaz and his work...
not the name on the label inside the item...

elbaz can do anything...
A N Y thing...
and frankly, i think he really does deserve to have his own name on his designs..

 

[softgrey]

i would love if kering or someone would set him up and he took the whole staff from lanvin with him...




that would make me SO happy...
bahahahaaa.aaaa.aaa

 

[fashionista-ta]

i would love if kering or someone would set him up and he took the whole staff from lanvin with him...




that would make me SO happy...
bahahahaaa.aaaa.aaa

Now that is a great idea


I take back what I said about Wang being at rock bottom now I am now clear that there's a ways to go.


It could be called whatever ... do they happen to have a spare heritage brand lying around?? Alber is a nice name ... and the logo could be


The lambskin is scrumptious ...

 

[t-rex]

Was SS16 his last?

 

[Benn98]

Where did you get this idea?

My assumption. Based on the fact that he's so quiet, no future prospects rumoured, still engaging Wang with emails etc (something which I'd personally never do).

 

[Fashionstuff]

You're so very right! Alber would be a bad idea for Dior right now, he's got way too much baggage and intrigue. And I also doubt whether a signature brand would even be a good/profitable idea. We'll have to wait and see at this point be because the way I see it, this intrigue will take some time to conclude. Also, it doesnt seem like Alber made any plans to move to another house? He actually believes he can go back after that veiled threat? Wishful thinking!

He will never goes back, it will be the end of his career. Sincerely, i don't think he would like to go back.
But Elbaz has a stake of 10 or 18 percent in Lanvin, what will be with his 10 or about 18 percent?
Ghesquiére sold his 10 percent to Balenciaga but it doesn't mean Elbaz must do same and sell his 10 or 18 percent stake to Lanvin, than, i don't know exactly , but i think he is free to sell it for somebody, not only for Mrs Wang. If Elbaz will sell his 18 percent stake to Ralph Bartel, who owns 25 percent yet, he will make "good surpise" to Wang. Of course she is majority shareholder but sure, she would like to have Elbaz 10 or 18 percent stake back, in her hands. If Elbaz will keep it for himself than he will have a possibility to influence some business decisions.


Source : businessoffashion.com

Nonetheless, Elbaz will surely receive a significant payout from Lanvin, echoing Nicholas Ghesquière's departure from Balenciaga in 2012. Ghesquière received $42.3 million for the sale of his 10 percent stake in the business.

i would love if kering or someone would set him up and he took the whole staff from lanvin with him...

QUOTE]

Yes, he took his Team and all A-Hollywood stars are "with him", will they wear Lanvin in future as they did it when Elbaz was at the helm?


Source : hollywoodreporter.com

he had his own "squad" of loyal superstar red-carpet clients: Emma Stone, Tilda Swinton, Natalie Portman (even with her association with Dior), Pharrell Williams, Cate Blanchett, Julianne Moore and Meryl Streep.

I hope Elbaz will make his own brand.

 

[Benn98]

He will never goes back, it will be the end of his career. Sincerely, i don't think he would like to go back.
But Elbaz has a stake of 10 or 18 percent in Lanvin, what will be with his 10 or about 18 percent?
Ghesquiére sold his 10 percent to Balenciaga but it doesn't mean Elbaz must do same and sell his 10 or 18 percent stake to Lanvin, than, i don't know exactly , but i think he is free to sell it for somebody, not only for Mrs Wang. If Elbaz will sell his 18 percent stake to Ralph Bartel, who owns 25 percent yet, he will make "good surpise" to Wang. Of course she is majority shareholder but sure, she would like to have Elbaz 10 or 18 percent stake back, in her hands. If Elbaz will keep it for himself than he will have a possibility to influence some business decisions.

Lets not forget, when he secured that 18% stake, he apparently took out a loan from Wang (read the WWD piece). I wonder whether this was settled in full. I do see him selling (if he even wants to, but I feel he should) to either Bartel or anyone else but Wang. I think his next step should be a break first to compose and assess, then on to another house. Really, I don't know whether rushing into signature right now would be a good idea. On paper it reads good, but there's a lot more involved. Besides, wouldn't he be infringing on Lanvin's existing clientele. Wang could argue this and a court of law will give her the time of day, even though they might not side with her. I just want him to make a fresh start away from all this mess, let Wang and her cohorts run their mouths to WWD, karma will deal with them soon enough. I expect Vanity Fair is silently working on drafts for this story (possibly in favour of Alber), it has all the makings of their type of takedowns.

 

[Kaye Beeh]

i would love if kering or someone would set him up and he took the whole staff from lanvin with him...

QUOTE]

Yes, he took his Team and all A-Hollywood stars are "with him", will they wear Lanvin in future as they did it when Elbaz was at the helm?


Source : hollywoodreporter.com



I hope Elbaz will make his own brand.

I would love to see him do his own brand and how that would evolve and what factors

 

[Benn98]

7 Facts about the Woman Who Axed Alber Elbaz
By Kristen Heinzinger | November 9, 2015

Curious to know just who is the”majority shareholder” behind Alber Elbaz’s scandalous exit from Lanvin? The Daily unearths some truths about Shaw-Lan Wang…
BY NATASHA SILVA-JELLY

She’s actually a journalist…

But totally media shy. Wang’s lain low since the sacking and rarely does interviews. A trained journalist, she owns United Daily News (a Taiwanese newspaper owned first by her father and where she cut her teeth).

She bought Lanvin and promptly hired Elbaz…
Wang purchased a majority stake in the French house from L’Oréal in 2001 and hired Elbaz, who had just been ousted from YSL. “She took a chance on me when others wouldn’t. The fashion world is fickle, which doesn’t mean I have to be,” the designer told the New York Times in 2005.

She sacked him 14 years later…
The designer confirmed publicly he was “pushed out of the company” and that it was “the decision of the company’s majority shareholder.”

She doesn’t do fashionistas…
Other than the front row at Lanvin, she avoids fashion events, telling the FT, “I don’t like those kind of people or those kind of parties. I am not a jet-set person.”

She’s pissed off the French—big time…
Lanvin employees promptly revolted at Elbaz’s axing, and according to intel the French employee works council has summonsed Wang to Paris (she lives in Taiwan) so they can air their concerns about the staff exodus. Not only that, French culture minister turned head of the Institut du Monde Arabe Jack Lang hailed Elbaz a “national treasure” and declared in a newspaper, “To cut the wings of this exceptional talent in this way makes me very sad and angry.”

She loves a spreadsheet…
Prior to his departure, Elbaz had alluded to the pressure to produce the numbers, and the French work council stated that the brand was set to post a loss for the first time since 2007. Wang is also rumored to be considering selling the company (of which Elbaz still owns a stake).

She’s 73 and adores a statement accessory…
Her uniform is the traditional Chinese qipao and OTT jewelry (piled on pearl strands and bold brooches).

Source: Fashionweekdaily.com