All About Becoming a Fashion Photographer

It's a mixture of raw talent ... having the "eye" to make compelling photos ... plus technical skills and business skills. If you don't have all three, you won't succeed. It is very competitive .... there's thousands and thousands of aspiring fashion photographers out there, all scrambling to make a buck or two at it. So I'd suggest that you start with some photography courses ... maybe they have some at school? This will teach you the technical basics of using a camera and you'll soon learn if you have the eye and the ability to capture what you see or not. Then business courses can help a lot ... look for things that teach you how to start and promote your own business ... entreprenurial studies and marketing. A professional photographer is a business person, first and formost.

Read all the posts at this forum for lots of information about the photography business, both for student photographers and for working pros. There's some very good stuff here ... just be aware that these are not JUST fashion photographers ... it's all types of photography, but the business side of it is pretty much relevant: http://www.pdngallery.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi
 
Here are my two cents. When you finish high-school, you have two options: go to art-school or some other university with a good photo program OR move to New York and start to assist the best photographers you can find. The most important things are to have a good eye and a lot of ambition. It helps if you a great feeling for/understading of either: (a) fashion or (b) beauty. If you have an amazing personality, that helps too. The most proven path is pretty clear: assist for a few years, and while you're doing that you are meeting all the right people, learning how to work with clients, getting to know the people who work at the labs and the rental houses. You are meeting the models, the art directors, the stylists, the hair and makeup people and soon enough you start shooting your own stuff on the weekends or whenever you have the time. Your book gets better and better and when you feel you're ready, or when you feel you just can't handle assisting a minute longer, you quit and become instantly poor and try to do it on your own. If you go to university, the odds are that you're going to have to go the assisting route anyway, so i say jump right in. Almost all of the biggest fashion photographers assisted other big fashion photographers before they set out on their own. Good luck. It's hard, but not as hard as these other posts are making it out to be.
 
Very good advice, Praha. It's right on the mark ... once he gets out there in the real world. However, I do believe that it's that hard to make it .... I know soooo many really talented fashion photographers who are starving. But a few do make it ... so anything is possible.

My advice was just how to start to build some skills, while he's still in high school. Sometimes they have these classes that I mentioned in high school and,certainly, he can pick them up inexpensively at local community colleges/night school ... just to get some background and skills that will help him in the future ... no matter how he does it. I think that it's a good jump start and would give him a leg up on the competition before he actually jumps in as a photographer's assistant or attends a art/photography school. He certainly will need to know his way around the equipment, in order to assist so he needs to get that down to start.
 
a professional photographer is a photographer first and foremost, with businessperson coming in at close second. if you want to be a photographer, you have to take pictures. if you're 16 and have 2 more years of highschool left, what i would suggest you do right now is see if your hs has a photography class and take those, and just take a lot of pictures. start doing some research into what kind of schools you want to go to...private art schools (expensive, but with somewhat specialised curriculum) or a general university with a good art/photo department. take this time right now to build up a great portfolio - get to know your own personal photographic style and what types of pictures you enjoy taking the most, and work on that. a good portfolio is going to help you get into the kind of university you want in the kind of department you want (fine art photo, fashion, whatever) and university is where you'll learn more about the business side of it.

good luck! it's as rewarding as it is frustrating, but if it's something you love, you'll learn to make it work for you.

:smile:
 
.francesca said:
a professional photographer is a photographer first and foremost, with businessperson coming in at close second.


I'd have to respectfully disagree there - it's business first, photography fairly distant second.
 
FC5 said:
I'd have to respectfully disagree there - it's business first, photography fairly distant second.
i see your point, but if you can't take a decent picture, you don't have a business. obviously you have to know how to market yourself and manage your money etc, but photography is based on talent - if you don't have it, your business will probably fail. society is keen on a great business pitch with no substance behind it; they'd catch on eventually.
 
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And if you don't market yourself and manage your money well to buy equipment and studio space ... no one who actually hires photographers will get to see your talent so your business won't even get off the ground.

I think it's about 50/50 ... you must have both to succeed.
 
What is the essential equipment for amateur fashion photographer?

Hi, all! I'm just graduating from school and I have high aspirations of being a fashion photographer..What equipment should I have to create a suitable portfolio on a students budget??

thanks!
 
hi melanie, congrats on graduating and welcome to tfs! :smile:

i'm just letting you know i've moved your query to the careers and education forum, where i think it is better suited.

i'll start by trying to answer a bit of your question...and asking a few of my own! :wink:

are you graduating form university with a BFA in photography? did you have a concentration in a specific field of photography or just general? did you learn any lighting and studio techniques? i'm asking these questions because i'm going to say this: BE YOURSELF. yes, i know that sounds like a very cliche thing to say, but when you're working on a portfolio, don't try to make work that goes above your skill set. work within your own style - if you prefer to work in natural light rather than in a harsh, high-tech studio environment, don't base your portfolio around the latter. work in your comfort zone, and within that, push your creativity. if you are comfortable with all the tech stuff and different types of cameras, lenses, flashes, whatever, i'd say at this point, try to rent or check out from your uni as much equipment as you possibly can to start working on your portfolio. i wouldn't buy things like strobes at this point. are you working digital or film? just curious :wink: i work in film. i like to use a lot of different formats to get different results.

good luck to you! :heart:
 
.francesca said:
hi melanie, congrats on graduating and welcome to tfs! :smile:

i'm just letting you know i've moved your query to the careers and education forum, where i think it is better suited.

i'll start by trying to answer a bit of your question...and asking a few of my own! :wink:

are you graduating form university with a BFA in photography? did you have a concentration in a specific field of photography or just general? did you learn any lighting and studio techniques? i'm asking these questions because i'm going to say this: BE YOURSELF. yes, i know that sounds like a very cliche thing to say, but when you're working on a portfolio, don't try to make work that goes above your skill set. work within your own style - if you prefer to work in natural light rather than in a harsh, high-tech studio environment, don't base your portfolio around the latter. work in your comfort zone, and within that, push your creativity. if you are comfortable with all the tech stuff and different types of cameras, lenses, flashes, whatever, i'd say at this point, try to rent or check out from your uni as much equipment as you possibly can to start working on your portfolio. i wouldn't buy things like strobes at this point. are you working digital or film? just curious :wink: i work in film. i like to use a lot of different formats to get different results.

good luck to you! :heart:

Hey, thanks so much for responding...i have a BA in Fine Arts with a specialization in photography..i am trying to use natural light and normal flash..i use film and some digital..i am also experimenting with a more alternative process ie polaroids and holgas to give it a more creative side..

i definitely understand what you mean by working in your comfort zone..it only makes more sense..i used the studio alot when i was in school but never much location..so i need to get comfortable in that style as well..

i have a shoot coming up on saturday..so maybe ill post some things in the lookbook and get some critiques..finding models is also very hard..and a fashion stylist..i have hair and makeup but i cant find any stylists ANYWHERE! and thats the main part! the fashion!

thanks for your help!:D
 
no problem! good luck to you :flower:

i tend to be my own stylist, as well as my friends/models, and we both work on hair and make up. i think i'm totally DIY about this :lol: but it works for me and i'm often really happy with the results.

please do submit your work to the fashion photogs lookbook thread...i had a bunch of stuff in there and i've taken it out, but there are many, many talented photographers around here and all would very much enjoy seeing your work and giving you feedback.

:smile:
 
i think with a great camera you can make anything DIY look amazing. i wouldn't say i'm a photographer but i've taken alot of art photography classes and i would say you don't need much more than an old, working slr to get the job done. i love natural light since amateur studio lighting can look very obvious. and if you do all the styling etc yourself they'll be even more impressed! just don't forget to give yourself the credit!
 
yeah, I agree..i use 35mm until I can raise enough money to get a mamiya and I use a digi SLR..So, I'm hoping it comes out looking professional enough...
 
I found this very interesting article on how to get your foot in the door at model agencies. :flower:

Shooting Model Tests: Getting Your Break Into Fashion Photography
July 13, 2006
By Reuel Golden

Shooting test shots of up-and-coming models can be a path into the sometimes intimidating world of fashion photography. It's not lucrative, but it helps build your portfolio, provides contacts in the fashion industry and gives you professional credibility.

So how do you get your foot in the door of the top modeling agencies? Three professionals who book new photographers and look at portfolios explained to PDN what it takes to get a test shoot, what they are looking for, how photographers should approach them and what they should avoid.

Here we hear from Roman Young, director of new faces at Elite in New York; Colton Knibbe, development/new faces, also with Elite and Edward Smith, new faces/women at ICM Models in London.

Point of Entry
Edward Smith: Once a day I get a call from a photographer saying, "Can I have a model please?" That’s not the way it works. Any agency will want to meet with the photographer and see their work before they will agree to any kind of shoot.
Roman Young: We do get walk-ins, but it is not recommended. There is a certain business etiquette you need to maintain if you are trying to build up a professional relationship. Do research on the company and find out about our new models and then suggest that you would like to come in, show your book with a view to working with some of our new faces. A lot of photographers get a little arrogant when I ask them what they do. They may be great photographers, but I don't know that from talking to them on the phone.
Colton Knibbe: People say, "I assisted Michael Thompson or Craig McDean," but I really don't care whose light source they held, I care about their work and what they shoot.
Young: We will look at e-mail submissions and if the work is good we will get back to them quickly. There is one guy in Miami, Billy Coleman, whose work we just loved from an e-mail and we really want to work with him. We also love the work of Chadwick Tyler and a student called Elleser Galetta.

How To Get Your Portfolio Noticed
Smith: I like to see at least two stories in a book, a consistent style that the photographer can apply to different settings like full length, portraits, outdoor and so on.
Young: They need to have a vision for the type of fashion photography that they are pursuing. If grungy is your thing, then own that, don’t try and send in some glamour shots as well. Make it clear to us in your pictures what you do and do it well.
Knibbe: We’ve started to use this guy Colin Dodgson, who is still at Brooks Institute in Santa Barbara. Someone from Elite was visiting the photography colleges and his tutor recommended Colin. He is very young, but he has a definite point of view. He is going to be big and I’ve already sent his book to the agent Katy Barker.
Young: I don’t necessarily have a problem with random shots, rather than full stories, but when we meet [photographers], they need to show us that they have the desire and ability to expand on that because ultimately that's what we need.
Knibbe: There was a photographer called Roy Cohen who came in to see me and his portfolio was OK, not fantastic, but there was something about him his sensibility that I really liked and he ended up doing a great test shoot.

Enough Already
Smith: There is what I call the "overcooked photograph" where everybody is trying to get their work seen. So a photography student will get another student to do the make-up and another fashion student to do the hair and then he will come in and do some crazy lighting. They all want to impress and build up their book, but we want to see natural and beautiful images that show off the model in the best light. That is more likely to get them work.
Young: I see a lot of snapshot stuff. I want to be blown away by a sexy and sleek portfolio shot in a studio.
Knibbe: I do meet photographers who are on the sleazier side, shall we say, and they show me books where the model is wearing next to nothing. I am nice and cordial, but it’s not what we are looking for.
Young: The main fault with work we see is in the make-up. People need to remember that you can’t retouch make-up. At this stage less is more. Let the model’s beauty do all the talking and the lighting be an expression of what you want to say. It doesn’t always have to be big hair and make-up; a girl in jeans and a t-shirt against a white wall can work just as well.

Who Benefits?
Smith: We are marketing the models, so it’s in our interest to get excellent photos that they [the models] can use in their books. They won’t get work unless they get pictures showing what they can do, so choosing the right photographer for the test shoots is one of the most important things that we do.
Young: We can help the photographers get started and build up their books which will help them get editorial work. It is a small industry and if we find a good test shooter, then word gets around fast.

How Does It Work? Does It Pay?
Knibbe: Everyone in this city with a camera wants to shoot beautiful women and get paid for it, but it’s not that straightforward. It works on a sliding scale. At first we will pay for film and processing, then $35 a print. After that it can progress to $100 a shoot and $350 for our top people.
Smith: We pay between 50 pounds and 250 pounds, depending on the photographer. From that, we will want three different looks and at least two rolls of film for each look.
Young: Usually we send a new model to a new photographer and it can be risky because they are both nervous, but often it can lead to great pictures since they both want to progress. The more a photographer delivers, then the more we pay him, and he gets to work with a higher caliber of model.
Knibbe: We always guide [the photographers] to what we need. I always tell them that 40 percent of what they shoot is for us and the rest is for them.
Young: We don’t sit in on shoots, but we always tell the models that if something doesn’t seem right, then phone us or leave. The models are always chaperoned by their parents as well.
Smith: “We have an in-house studio and the first time a photographer works for us, we have him shoot here. In order to be a good tester they have to trust us to direct them at least at first.

Looking Good, Going To The Right Parties
Young: It is fashion, and people are judged on the way they look, but over time your work will stand will more than what you wear or what parties you go to. I have friends who are agents and they want their photographers to go out and, "Work it, work it!" Who you know helps, and you are not going to meet new people if you are staying at home.
Smith: Photographers have to have an eye for fashion, otherwise bad hair and bad make-up will appear in their photos. It is important that they are reading fashion magazines Vogue, i-D and Another Magazine for example. But if I saw a testing photographer always out on the town on the lash [English slang for drunk/wasted] it would put me off them.
Knibbe: It’s like any business: the more you know the greater your chance of making it.

Roman Young and Colton Knibbe of Elite can be reached at: [email protected] and [email protected].

[Article from PDN]
http://www.modelplace.com/?op=post&forum_id=5&thread_id=368
 
how to become a fashion photographer? (in paris)

Hello ppl
i am 19 yrs old girl who wants to be a fashion photographer and work with fashion magazines.

I've been looking for some schools in paris now.
(like ecole des beaux arts where they teach mostly about paintings these days. so i dont really think i want to go to this shcool)

Is there any current working photographer here?
I'd like to ask about the informations of some of nice schools in paris where i can learn photographs.

And how do i find a professional photographer to work as their assistant?

Thank you very much.

I am just about to start here so there's gotta be tons of stuff i dont know!
I have only took one photography class when i was in high school and the was surely not enough. :smile:

Tata luv

BTW i am definitely looking for some models/stylist/hair-make up artists/ ^-^
doesnt matter if you are planning on being one of them or student.
I would just love to talk to youguys.
msn/email : [email protected]
it will be fun! +_+ yeaaay
 
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^check in magazines (sometimes photographers' agency are credited) and write and intern... write to every photographers' agency and propose tes services.
that's the best. Internship is the best! best than school or whatever. But for being a photographer, maybe a school is needed, too. I think, you have to know some stuff...
 
thank you berlin rocks! karma for you :smile:
BTW any recommended school for me?
 
Im a fashion merchandising student in Los Angeles who's looking for an internship please help
 
Recommended school in Paris: Spéos. I'm still hoping to meet one of their students on here one day or someone else with inside knowledge. ^_^

You also might find it interesting to have a look at this thread.
 
thank you iperlchen!
actaully i've heard of 'speos' last year and thought about going speos....
I am not sure yet
 

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