Best Sunscreen

[anyzzka]

^^ I like the idea of using antioxidants UNDER sunscreen and have always worn a separate CE ferulic serum under my zinc oxide sunscreen. But combining an anti-oxidant within a chemical SS is a bit like trying to bale out a boat with a teaspoon. Im not sure it could keep up with the free radicals generated by the chemicals sunscreening agents breaking down themselves, let alone those generated by the UV rays.

I love natural sunscreens. Thanks for great tips. Are there any others you have tried/know about?

 

[Georgi]

I love natural sunscreens. Thanks for great tips. Are there any others you have tried/know about?

Yes! Pratima Neem Rose and Devita Solar Protective Moisturizer are both cosmetically elegant (not white on the skin and provide a nice finish w/o being oily or chalky). I wear foundation over them and they still look good.

Both are around spf 30 and around 20% micronized zinc oxide.

Others Ive tried are BurnOut Eco (a little too dry looking), Kabana (cakey a bit), and Marie Veronique Organics (too many oils and hard to remove). Im always looking for perfect zinc SSs and Devita and Pratima are the best Ive found so far.

 

[anyzzka]

Oh wow, thanks a lot Georgi!!!

 

[Georgi]

Soleo is another one someone just rec to me but i havent tried it. He said it is sheer (after absorbing for a few minutes) and not greasy or white-ish on the skin. Drugstores have it.

 

[CarolineRose]

^Devita is great, BurnOut Eco is VERY chalky, and I've heard good things about Soleo too. Alba Botanica makes a nice natural green tea sunscreen, my little sister uses it.

 

[Georgi]

Im thinking of trying Soleo next. 22.3% micronized zinc sounds great doesnt it.B) Ive heard its available easily at CVS - easier to obtain than Devita anyway.

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[missvsecret]

I'm currently using the Shiseido Urban Environment SPF50 and really like it for a daily use - it's non-oily, doesn't leave a white cast, and gives me skin a nice glow.

I would also recommend Kose's SPF50 sunscreen (blue bottle), La Roche Posay SPF50 for outdoor sports - available in a spray version as well. Works beautifully.

I'm also using Shiseido SPF50 sunscreen. I really really like it and I recommend it for those who have very sensitive skin or acne and is afraid to try new products (like me).

I wanted to try Kose's SPF50 sunscreen. What is the texture like, is it heavy?

 

[[vogue]]

Nope, It's even lighter than the shiseido one!

 

[KamenKutak]

I'm using L’Occitane 'Immortelle Brightening UV Shield SPF40' and i love it!! it's so soft and light on skin and the smell is beautiful

 

[limo]

Should you rub in sunscreen or not?

Here is an article on the Mayo Clinic website that says, "Be sure to rub the sunscreen in well."

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/sunscreen/SN00044/NSECTIONGROUP=2

Here is the BBC saying, "Rubbing sunscreen into the skin reduces its effectiveness"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/5190214.stm

What is The Fashion Spot's opinion?
If it's relevant for this question, everyday I use either La Roche-Posay Anthelios Xl Lait Veloute 50+ or Anthelios XL Fluid Extreme FACE SPF 50+
Thank you.

 

[rayoflight]

I dunno why Mayo Clinic says that, their advice is more up to date usually.
Sunscreen has to be on skin and in rather thick layer to protect anything, some chemical filters do absorb into skin, but the rest has to be on top, especially the sunscreen has at least part physical filters (zinc oxide, titanium dioxide and hybrids like Tinosorb M). I think Anthelios has titanium dioxide in at least some of their sunscreens.
Sunscreen bottle also says reapply after swimming and towel drying - that's like rubbing and reduces protection. Kinda logical conclusion.

It's been sort of known for a long time, but there was some sort of investigation that found that rubbing reduces the effectiveness by 25%. That combined with fact that many people don't apply enough (~1.3 ml for face and neck) or don't reapply enough means there is a lot of badly-protected sun exposure with false sense of security.

http://medicine.org/a-new-study-fin...nto-the-skin-provides-very-little-protection/

 

[suhas]

i use cyberwhite ex estee lauder sunscreen SPF 50! it's great!
http://www.esteelauder.in/?q=/website_admin/cyberwhiteexit&menu=298&clid=300

 

[Georgi]

American Academy of Dermatology says to rub sunscreen on for most even coverage applying a shotglassful (one ounce) to cover all exposed areas of the body. Most derms rec applying evenly and rubbing to get into folds and lines of skin. Definitions of "rubbing" vary of course. Not rubbing it "off" vigourously, obviously.

http://www.aad.org/media/background/factsheets/fact_sunscreen.htm

 

[rayoflight]

That article is full of errors, the rubbing thing could be one of them, for instance, they claim SPF is calculated by time spent in sun and their offered list of "broad spectrum" filters is full errors as well.

http://www.fda.gov/AboutFDA/CentersOffices/CDER/ucm106351.htm

There is even research that suggests (because is not done on real humans) that rubbing in reduces the effectiveness by 1/2, rather than 25% as the BBC article says.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3931/is_200607/ai_n17183247/

I'm just saying, everyone should do own comprehensive research and decide for themselves. Thing about advice: take what you like and leave the rest.

 

[limo]

Thanks for the responses. Very interesting points!
I was so surprised that two usually very reliable sources disagreed so greatly.
I apply .5 tsp to my face and neck, wait a half hour, then I wipe with my fingertips where there are streaks.

I'm about to start using retinol so I really hope I'm 100% effectiveness.
Thank you for all the responses.

 

[Cristina777]

I can't find a sunscreen that I like for everyday use . I have tried:

- Vichy fluid spf20: leaves my face too shiny and it made me breakout
- Avene emulsion spf 50 and cleanance 30: leaves a white cast
- La Roche Posay spf 50+ and spf 30: white cast
- La Roche Posay Hydraphase spf15 ppd11: no white cast, makes my face red and irritated, also makes my enormous pores look even bigger and stings my eyes when I apply it on my cheeks. I am also not sure that does cause me any breakouts. I really hate this product...
- Bioderma Photoderm AKN40: white cast (the worst from all I tried)
- Hyséké spf 25 (recommended by my dermatologist white cast

Is there someone that uses sunscreen every day without make up and still looks presentable? How the hell do you do that?! All seem to leave a white film, my face looks unnatural and whitout life. Some feel heavy (Avene and Bioderma) and with LRP I am always tasting my sunscreen (they taste awful BTY). And after reapplying every sunscreen (including the moisturizer with spf) I can't wait to go wash my face...they feel awful. I cannot use Avene emulsion spf50, bioderma and LRP 50+ every day also, they start to sting a bit on me too.

 

[rayoflight]

You might like Devita Solar Protective sunscreen SPF 30. It has zinc oxide, but it's not white at all. I have the same problem - slightest white and I look dead-ish. Or when sunscreens are weirdly shiny or sticky. It's gross.
Shiseido Very High Protection cream is nice too, but Devita is better!
My second tier choice after zinc oxide sunscreens would be ones with Tinosorb M in them, Nivea invisible something, Shiseiso Anessa, Lierac or something like that.

 

[Cristina777]

You might like Devita Solar Protective sunscreen SPF 30. It has zinc oxide, but it's not white at all. I have the same problem - slightest white and I look dead-ish. Or when sunscreens are weirdly shiny or sticky. It's gross.
Shiseido Very High Protection cream is nice too, but Devita is better!
My second tier choice after zinc oxide sunscreens would be ones with Tinosorb M in them, Nivea invisible something, Shiseiso Anessa, Lierac or something like that.

Thanks for the help! I will try your suggestions.

 

[anyzzka]

It is sad that it seems like I have to choose between white cast and annoying greasiness
I wanted to try Devita sunscreen, but I checked the people's reviews on amazon and it seems like it is a great product in a pretty bad packaging, which doesnt allow you to use all the stuff from it... Anyone who tried it here has this experience too? I might try the Pratima sunscreen if that is true..

 

[rayoflight]

All sunscreens should come in a tube. The pump bottle Devita has is a major nuisance, I agree, there is always something left.
Pratima Rose isn't that nice Imo, it's not white per se, but the color change is noticeable, reapplication is next to impossible - instant white streaks, and it has that drying effect that many zinc oxide sunscreens have in common. Some higher-end zinc sunscreens (Shiseido, Osmosis) have lots of humectants, emollients and encapsualted zinc in them and they are fine on my skin. Not all natural companies hold those ingredients in high regard (scaremongering) and result is like putting diaper cream on face. Grease and whiteness when on skin, dried out skin when sunscreen is removed.