Daniel Lee - Designer, Creative Director of Burberry


Good news: price alignment
Bad news: 99% Lee is out
LOL you can't even directly copy the text on the site. What an absolute clown parade...

Anyways, here's a remarkable statement:
Burberry is a highly differentiated luxury brand with a unique history and heritage, and category authority in outerwear and scarves. Over the past several years, we moved too far from our core with disappointing results. Our brand expression was focused on being modern at the expense of celebrating our heritage.

We introduced new brand codes and signifiers that were unfamiliar to our customers. Our product was weighted to seasonal fashion with a niche aesthetic obscuring our more timeless core collections. As we pursued brand elevation, our pricing particularly in leather goods did not always align with our category authority. Consequently, Burberry’s offer was skewed to a narrow base of luxury customers.

It's probably good for all luxury brands at this point for Burberry to rollback pricing and brand positioning. After one brand does it, then others won't feel as much industry scrutiny if they do the same.
 
His name is not even mentioned in the report. What a travesty.
One thing that I hate is that! That’s such a lack of responsibility from the suits, as if he is the one who asked them to price the products that way.

Now I’m curious to see how they will price and market SS2025.
His contract normally comes to terms in October 2025 so maybe they are willing to let him go and pay the extra cash. It doesn’t seems like they needs him apparently.
 
I think the SS2025 will be heavily watered down by the merchandising team to match the outerwear turn. I think, for the sake of PR, let him go in October 2025 but his creative control over collections will be non existent…it’s a horror to me to even begin to think who will be the next CD.
 

‘Our best days are ahead’: Burberry CEO reveals turnaround plan​

Following the company’s disappointing H2 results, Joshua Schulman presented ‘Burberry Forward’ — a detailed plan that includes a reset of its pricing structure and a renewed focus on the core customer.
BY MALIHA SHOAIB November 14, 2024

Burberry has a new strategy after a string of losses. CEO Joshua Schulman, who joined in July and succeeded Jonathan Akeroyd, has unveiled ‘Burberry Forward’, a plan to bring the brand back to where it was two years ago with a focus on outerwear and a more diversified pricing structure.

Burberry will still be a luxury brand, Schulman insists — not accessible luxury (there were calls earlier this year for the brand to become a “British Coach”).

“Burberry shares all of the attributes that best-in-class luxury brands have,” said Schulman during a presentation at the temporary Burberry offices in London on Thursday (the permanent office space is currently undergoing a renovation). “Luxury customers of all ages crave legitimacy, authenticity and enduring quality. In this context, Burberry is more relevant than ever. [But] over the past several years, the world went where Burberry has always been while we went somewhere else.”

He presented the strategy as Burberry reported its financial results for the first half of fiscal 2025. Revenues were down 20 per cent at current exchange rates to £1.1 billion. The company swung to an operating loss of £53 million in H1, and finished the period with net debt of £1.4 billion. Gross margin declined from 69.8 per cent last year to 63.4 per cent after price increases failed to offset product costs, CFO Kate Ferry explained during the presentation.

The company has not laid out a sales outlook for 2025 yet, but the long-term ambition is to return to £3 billion in sales with a high-teens operating margin and a 70 per cent gross margin.

Burberry has been in transition since former CEO Marco Gobbetti — who had led an elevation strategy — departed in 2021. Akeroyd, who joined in 2022, set off with a mission to align Burberry more closely to its British heritage, and had a long-term target of £5 billion in revenue. But Burberry’s performance has been slipping over the past year and a half. It issued a profit warning in January 2024 and later reported that sales fell 4 per cent in fiscal year 2024. Its share price has been falling since mid 2023, dropping from £25.94 in April 2023 to £5.92 in September 2024, when it fell from the FTSE 100. Since Schulman revealed his strategy on Thursday morning, shares have jumped over 19 per cent.

“We are operating in a difficult market, however, our underperformance is also a consequence of the decisions we have taken,” Schulman said during the presentation. “It stems from an inconsistent brand execution and a lack of focus on our core outerwear category and our core customer segments. We are acting with urgency to course correct.”
Retail sales were down 19 per cent during H1, while wholesale was down 29 per cent due to weaker consumer demand and a planned reduction in EMEIA (Europe, the Middle East, India and Africa). Licensing sales were up 5 per cent thanks to success in fragrance.

APAC sales dropped 25 per cent year-on-year in H1 and have worsened from Q1 to Q2 this year — Mainland China has suffered as expected, as has South Korea (down 26 per cent in H1). Japan’s growth has slowed, with sales dropping 2 per cent year-on-year. EMEIA was down 13 per cent year-on-year, but sales have improved from a 16 per cent decline in Q1 to a 10 per cent decline in Q2. The Americas have also improved, from a 23 per cent drop in Q1 to an 18 per cent decline in Q2 (sales are down 21 per cent in H1 year-on-year). American tourist spend has been performing better than local spend, the brand said.
Ferry is undertaking a strict cost-cutting strategy (which has included layoffs) and has already delivered £8 million in structural savings from her efficiency programme in the first half of the fiscal year. Consumer-facing spending such as marketing will remain a priority. For Schulman, who previously served as CEO of Michael Kors and, before that, Coach, the key to success is in bringing together the design, marketing and merchandising teams and in “loving the customer we have as much as the customer we want to have”.

The new pricing structure

The main change that Schulman is making is around Burberry’s pricing structure. In the past two years, Burberry has been pursuing an elevation strategy that has centred on pricey leather goods, and Schulman was transparent that the strategy “didn’t work” — as reflected in the sales figures. Outerwear and soft goods (which includes scarves) performed better than average in all key regions in H1. Ready-to-wear performed in line with the group average, while leather goods and shoes underperformed.
“We took pricing too high across the board, particularly on leather goods.”
“We wandered off too far in our pivot to a modern British luxury aesthetic. We over-indexed on modern at the exclusion of our heritage in our brand expression. We created new brand codes, including variations of signifiers and word marks that were not familiar or recognisable to our customers,” said Schulman. “We took pricing too high across the board, particularly on leather goods.”

His new strategy brings pricing back in line with what it used to be: handbag prices will sit among the £1,500 to £2,000 range rather than over £2,000, instead stretching pricing and elevation across the categories where the brand has more authority — namely, outerwear and scarves.
Aside from the pricing strategy, Schulman highlighted that outerwear and scarves will be pushed to the most prominent positions within stores. No more scarves hidden in drawers and left out of marketing campaigns; instead, Burberry has introduced a ‘Scarf Bar’ at its New York flagship and plans to roll that out to other locations, alongside its new campaign (“It’s always Burberry weather”) featuring scarves-a-plenty.

Schulman describes the pricing architecture as “good, better, best”, which indicates the lowest, middle and highest prices. In outerwear, “best” pricing will represent around 20 per cent, while “better” and “good” will represent around 40 per cent each. In the other categories — ready-to-wear, bags and shoes — “best” will represent just 5 to 15 per cent.
In terms of discounting, Burberry is currently dealing with a “significant inventory overhang”, according to Schulman, so it plans to use outlets to clear excess stock. After that, it will tighten up its buy and inventory, then roll back on outlet exposure to drive margins up.

Speaking to the core customer

Schulman identified five customer archetypes: the opinionated customer, who is fashion-forward; the investor, who is high spending and invests in quality products; the conservative, who spends a little less than the investor but also seeks quality; the hedonist, who appreciates the brand and seeks self-expression; and the aspirational customer, who is lower spending and often wants branded products.
The problem in recent years has been that the opinionated fashion-forward customer has been the only focus, while others have been pushed to the sidelines. “We prioritised inventory and marketing investments around seasonal fashion moments at the expense of our core categories, resulting in diminished visibility of our core outerwear, and we took pricing too high across the board, particularly on leather goods where we lacked natural category authority,” said Schulman. “These changes were designed to appeal to a fashion-forward customer, and although this audience can be very influential, the narrowness of our target confuses a large and important cross section of our core customers.”

The brand wants to maintain that style-oriented audience, but right now, the focus is on the investor and the hedonist — who will inspire the conservative and the aspiring customer, respectively.

Despite that, Schulman was clear that creative director Daniel Lee isn’t going anywhere for now. “When I arrived at Burberry, I noticed that the design function was relatively independent and much more siloed than it is in better performing luxury businesses,” he said. “I’ve made it a priority to bring design back closer to the commercial anchors of the business. We have built a forum, enabling Daniel, myself and our merchandising and marketing leaders to align earlier on product and marketing decisions that impact our global business.”

Schulman was confident in his turnaround plan, as well as Burberry’s future. “I am more optimistic than ever that Burberry has all of the attributes to be one of the best in class here, but our starting point is from a very challenging place,” he added. “Burberry’s best days are ahead.”
VOGUE BUSINESS
 
From The Guardian :
Schulman still offered the usual fashion industry blah-blah about “celebrating iconic brand codes”, but he was really saying Burberry should remember its roots, which lie in trench coats and outerwear, and stop trying to go head-to-head on prices with the big French and Italian houses in products such as leather goods.

From This Is Money :
Chairman Gerry Murphy has previously said the business ‘probably went a bit too far, too fast’ with raising prices and targeting a super-wealthy bracket.

From Fast Company :
“We took pricing too high across the board,” Schulman told investors and analysts, setting out his assessment of what went wrong at Burberry.

PRICING STRATEGY SHIFT​

Schulman told reporters Burberry would add more lower-priced “entry-level” products to its range as part of a pricing shift. Burberry has the most pricing power in outerwear, while it has less in handbags, he said.

“It is only in the recent 18 to 24 months that we really were trying to stretch our pricing on absolutely every product,” Schulman said, adding that he sees opportunities in handbags priced under 2,000 euros ($2,109.00), with a “sweet spot” at 1,600 euros.
But he said Burberry’s positioning would remain in luxury and there were no plans to make it an “accessible” luxury brand.

Burberry’s creative director Daniel Lee, who joined the brand two years ago, had made his name at Bottega Veneta with a series of top-selling “it” shoes and bags. But his designs at Burberry, which is not primarily known for leather goods, have not found the same success.

Leather goods and shoes underperformed in the first half, Burberry said, while outerwear did better than average.
 
Copy of the strategy update:
Burberry Group Plc
Strategy Update and Interim Results for 26 weeks ended 28 September 2024

“My first few months have reaffirmed my belief that Burberry is an extraordinary luxury brand, quintessentially British, equal parts heritage and innovation. Burberry’s original purpose to design clothing that protects people from the weather is more relevant than ever. Our recent underperformance has stemmed from several factors, including inconsistent brand execution and a lack of focus on our core outerwear category and our core customer segments. Today, we are acting with urgency to course correct, stabilise the business and position Burberry for a return to sustainable, profitable growth. We have a powerful brand with broad appeal among luxury customers, authority in the outerwear and scarf categories which have remained resilient through this period, and a strong presence in all key luxury markets. Now, we have a clear framework to reignite brand desire, improve our performance and drive long-term value creation. Building on our strong foundations, I am confident that Burberry’s best days are ahead.”

Joshua Schulman
Chief Executive Officer

STRATEGY UPDATE
Today, Burberry announces ‘Burberry Forward’, a strategic plan to reignite brand desire, improve our performance and drive long-term value creation. Our focus in this next phase is on reconnecting our brand with its original purpose and leveraging our strengths with a disciplined approach and a range of products to attract a broad base of luxury customers.

Burberry is a highly differentiated luxury brand with a unique history and heritage, and category authority in outerwear and scarves. Over the past several years, we moved too far from our core with disappointing results. Our brand expression was focused on being modern at the expense of celebrating our heritage. We introduced new brand codes and signifiers that were unfamiliar to our customers. Our product was weighted to seasonal fashion with a niche aesthetic obscuring our more timeless core collections. As we pursued brand elevation, our pricing particularly in leather goods did not always align with our category authority. Consequently, Burberry’s offer was skewed to a narrow base of luxury customers.

Burberry has all the attributes to be a high-performing luxury brand. We have the most opportunity where we have the most authenticity. We have an inspirational founder who created practical and stylish solutions for his era. An original purpose linked to a product that still resonates today. Authority in a core category. Quality that confers status and identity. Iconic brand codes. Relevance to a broad range of luxury customers and global brand awareness that is bigger than our business.

Today’s luxury customer craves authenticity. As the only British luxury brand with such strong foundations, we have a competitive advantage. We will leverage our strengths and broad universal appeal to reclaim market share.

BURBERRY FORWARD:
OUR FRAMEWORK FOR SUSTAINABLE VALUE CREATION
Timeless British Luxury

- Juxtapose heritage and innovation across all customer touchpoints
- Balance seasonal fashion messages with campaigns celebrating outerwear authority
- Capture British wit and style and balance recognisable London imagery with British countryside

Lead with outerwear and earn authority in other categories
- Align pricing with category authority
- Celebrate iconic brand codes with recognisable brand signifiers
- Rebalance offer with fewer, bigger investments

Align distribution with product and customer strategy
- Increase store productivity through core category amplification
- Optimise brand presence in wholesale and outlet
- Improve e-commerce functionality and rebalance product assortment and styling

Reignite high-performance culture and capabilities
- Drive organisational clarity
- Rebuild executional discipline
- Leverage data-driven decision making to complement creativity and intuition

Delivery of the plan will be facilitated by greater alignment between commercial and creative teams and consistently putting the customer at the heart of everything Burberry does. We are reviving a high-performing culture. Our plan will be underpinned by continued focus on productivity, simplification and financial discipline.

We recognise there is much to be done in the short term, and we are acting with urgency. We are confident we can get back to generating £3 billion in annual revenue over time, while rebuilding margins and driving strong cash generation.

Immediate Actions
In the last 90 days, we have implemented the following immediate actions:

- Launched “It’s Always Burberry Weather” Outerwear campaign and “Wrapped in Burberry” Festive campaign to reset brand in the eyes of customers
- Evolved visual merchandising to accentuate outerwear and scarves in stores; initiated global roll out of Scarf Bars in 57th Street flagship in New York
- Updated styling online to appeal to a broad range of luxury customers; launched Virtual Scarf Try On
- Appointed new leaders across Marketing, Product Merchandising and Planning, and the Americas; introduced new ways of working to achieve creative and commercial alchemy
- Initiated cost savings programme to unlock annualised savings of c.£40m (c.£25m to deliver in FY25)
- Accelerated plan to address inventory overhang and restore scarcity

FY25 Outlook
We are acting with urgency to stabilise the business and position the brand for a return to sustainable, profitable growth, supported by strong cash generation and balance sheet strength. We are confident that our strategic plan will improve our performance and drive long-term value creation. In the short term, with our all-important festive trading period ahead and an uncertain macroeconomic environment, it is too early to determine whether our second-half results will fully offset the first-half adjusted operating loss.
Burberry PLC
 
The WWD article on Schulman's strategy (read between the lines)
The Burberry Whisperer? Joshua Schulman Plans to Restore the Brand’s Fortunes, Win Back Customers
In an exclusive interview with WWD, Burberry CEO Joshua Schulman said he's looking at Burberry holistically, filling the shop floor with hero products and wooing traditional customers in a bid to restore the brand to its former glory.

By Samantha Conti
November 14, 2024, 4:40pm

LONDON — Since he joined as chief executive officer in July, Joshua Schulman hasn’t wasted a minute in his effort to turn around Burberry, which has been hit by a double whammy of slowing luxury demand and past strategies that drove the brand into territory that was too niche, too fashion and too expensive.

In an address to financial analysts following the first-half results, Schulman talked about his work so far and, in doing so, offered up a potential master class in how to revive a heritage brand.

He laid out his strategy to restore sales and profit growth; talked about joining the dots between the creative, merchandise and marketing teams, and revealed plans to speak to a wider base of customers, especially those left in the cold by Burberry‘s failed, high-fashion moves.

There is a long way to go. Hours before Schulman addressed the analysts, Burberry reported a 22 percent decline in first-half revenue to 1.09 billion pounds, and a reported operating loss of 53 million pounds for the six months to Sept. 28.

Comparable store sales were down 20 percent with double-digit declines across all regions. The company reported an adjusted operating loss of 41 million pounds, compared with a profit of 223 million pounds in the corresponding period last year.

Schulman said Burberry is “acting with urgency to course correct, stabilize the business and position Burberry for a return to sustainable, profitable growth.” He said he has no doubt that Burberry’s “best days are ahead.”

His medium-term goal is to restore the company to its golden days of 3 billion pounds in annual revenue, with operating margin in the high teens. Once he achieves that goal, Schulman wants sales — and profitability — to go far beyond those numbers.

He laid out his strategy with confidence and enthusiasm during the analyst meeting, and later in an interview with WWD.

Schulman argued that over the past several years, Burberry moved “too far from our core with disappointing results.”

So many mistakes were made. The focus, he said, was on being “modern at the expense of celebrating our heritage. We introduced new brand codes and signifiers that were unfamiliar to our customers. Our product was weighted to seasonal fashion with a niche aesthetic obscuring our more timeless core collections.”

Schulman added that as Burberry pursued brand elevation, “our pricing, particularly in leather goods, did not always align with our category authority. Consequently, Burberry’s offer was skewed to a narrow base of luxury customers.”

Not any more. Schulman believes Burberry “has the most opportunity where we have the most authenticity,” and wants to “pivot to a more recognizable and timeless expression” of the brand.

Going forward, Schulman will focus increasingly on the merchandise and the consumer.

His plan is to stock shop floors and ad campaigns with hero products, install “scarf bars” and “trench destinations” in the stores; go big on gabardine, the brand’s signature weatherproof fabric patented by Thomas Burberry in 1888, and make the brand recognizable once again to its core customers, who never stopped loving the check.

Schulman, a merchant to his core who has managed myriad companies ranging from Jimmy Choo to Bergdorf Goodman to Coach, believes scarves are a Burberry “superpower” and wants them merchandised like sweets in a candy store, rather than in glass cases.

He’s also put mannequins back on the shop floor, and plans to start cross-merchandising products such as scarves, capes, hats and gloves. He’s looking beyond the trench and putting a fresh focus on Burberry’s outerwear, with plans to offer jackets, coats and puffers for every kind of temperature and weather.

He wants to add authenticity and warmth to the ad campaigns, and showed a video from the latest holiday one at the analyst meeting. “Who doesn’t love puppies and babies?” Schulman asked after a series of jolly holiday-makers flashed up on the screen.

Schulman is determined to keep Burberry’s high-end positioning rather than pivot to “accessible” luxury. His plan is to broaden the price points; leverage Burberry’s pricing power in key categories such as outerwear, and keep leather bags, where the brand has less authority, hovering under 2,000 euros.

“It’s very clear what needs to be done. The customer loves Burberry, and there is pent-up demand” for the brand to just be itself, Schulman said in an interview at his office overlooking the treetops of Westminster. “And we need to love the customers we have as much as the customers we want.”

Schulman insisted that big luxury businesses cannot exist on “small niches of customers alone. They need to speak to a broad spectrum of luxury customers. At their best, those brands allow different customer types to find themselves, and express themselves, in the brand.”

While much of Schulman’s focus over the past few months has been on merchandising and wooing back the core customer, he’s also been working closely with the teams, bringing Burberry’s creative and marketing talents together, and giving them a clear set of goals.

“I was surprised that for a business of this scale, design was a very siloed function. I believe Daniel [Lee, Burberry’s chief creative officer] and his team were craving interaction” with the other teams such as marketing and merchandising, Schulman said.

“It’s an area where I’ve leaned in. You want the teams to work holistically in service to the brand. There is real opportunity here to evolve our ways of working,” he added.

A recent example of that cooperation is the new holiday ad campaign, which features celebrities and Burberry fans, including two longstanding Burberry customers from Nebraska, Dr. Herschel Stoller and Dr. Lilly Stoller.

Burberry’s new chief marketing officer Jonathan Kiman had spotted them in the New York store, spoke to Lee about featuring them in the campaign, and the two pitched the idea to Schulman, who said “yes” immediately.

Asked about Lee’s future at the company, Schulman described him as a “a very talented designer,” but declined to comment further. Lee, who was hired by Schulman’s predecessor Jonathan Akeroyd, said he likes working with Schulman, and hasn’t given any indication that he might leave.

“I enjoy his drive, his positivity and his way of communication. In its heyday, Burberry enjoyed American CEO leadership together with a British designer, and hopefully that’s a great synergy that we can get that on board with,” Lee said.

Schulman did say that one of the best surprises he’s had at Burberry has been the enthusiasm of the staff.

“The team loves the brand and inherently knows what the best path forward is. In many cases, a new leader might encounter resistance, but I have found that the teams are incredibly open to, and eager for, the type of change we are driving, both in the brand expression and in the way we work in the organization,” he said.

Schulman is also unruffled by working in the glare of the stock market. Burberry is 100 percent quoted on the London Stock Exchange, and Schulman said it’s business as usual.

“I’ve worked for public companies, big brands that belong to groups, and ones owned by private equity. You always have a shareholder, and you always have governance. My relationship with the Burberry board is great, and they have been very supportive,” he said.

Schulman added: “As an independent company, Burberry has advantages in the market. What’s been really interesting for me is that our industry partners like the fact that we’re independent. With all of the consolidation in the industry they like working with a sizable brand that’s not part of a bigger portfolio.”

He declined to comment on recent, unsourced media reports that Burberry might be taken over by luxury rival Moncler. “We’re very focused on what we have to do here, and we try to tune the noise out. We have a lot to do, and we’re hard at work,” Schulman said.

It’s clear he’s relishing the challenges of opening a new chapter for Burberry.

Schulman said he’s been following the company for decades — since the days of Rose Marie Bravo, the CEO who put Burberry on the fashion map.

Earlier in his career, Schulman also worked with Burberry’s former chief creative officer and CEO Christopher Bailey when both men were at Gucci under Tom Ford and Domenico De Sole. It was Bravo who recruited Bailey to Burberry.

During his days running Jimmy Choo in London, Schulman also tried to hire people away from Burberry, but he said it wasn’t easy.

“People loved the culture, and always talked about Burberry’s creative and commercial alchemy. I’ve always had an affinity for the brand and an admiration for the people and the culture. It’s still something I’m passionate about it. There are very few brands like Burberry, which are already at a certain scale, and that have unbelievable potential ahead to grow.”
WWD
 
Talking endlessly about marketing strategies...to basically try to sell again the same things they already were selling, before the CDs they have hired in the last years...

You wise execs out there I ask you this: if the brand was experimenting a big fatigue in the past, why do you think you can revamp it by selling the same things again??? Do you expect to erase customer memories or something???


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tenor.com
 
I'm judt curious how this failure affect his work when he starts to work with new brand. I heard he was super confident about his direction in the beginning of his Burberry. We know the problem is more management, but still...
 
More on the CEO:
Burberry CEO Joshua Schulman Shares Where Burberry Went Wrong and How It’s Repositioning
At the NRF Big Show, Schulman also shared how some strange childhood tendencies informed his future in fashion.

By David Moin
January 14, 2025, 11:56am


Joshua Schulman is candid about Burberry and himself.

Despite very strong brand awareness and affinity around the world, Burberry in recent years went “a little bit off course, lost sight of our core customer” and delivered “a brand expression, which may have been unfamiliar to many of our customers,” Schulman said at the NRF Big Show convention at Manhattan’s Jacob K. Javits Center.

“The outerwear category probably hadn’t been getting as much attention as it should have. More broadly speaking, outerwear and scarves are areas where we have enormous authority,” Schulman said while being interviewed by Pete Nordstrom, president and chief brand officer of Nordstrom Inc., for an edition of “The Nordy Pod” podcast.

After Schulman became Burberry chief executive officer last July, succeeding Jonathan Akeroyd, the company in November launched its “Burberry Forward,” strategy “to reignite our designers, reconnect with our core customer segments and focus again on our core outerwear and scarf categories,” Schulman said. “So making sure those presented in our communications and so forth is super important.”

Burberry’s marketing was among the first areas to evolve, with the “It’s Always Burberry Weather” campaign featuring celebrities speaking with irreverence and humor — British style — on what Burberry means to them.

“The coolest people in the world want the most authentic parts of our brand,” Schulman said.

“The best brand evolutions make you smile and make you think that’s what I always loved about the brand, but it’s also about doing something fresh and different.”

Also crucial to the Burberry repositioning “is what we’re doing is within a luxury context,” Schulman said, noting there was a lot of speculation about Burberry’s future because he previously worked with some aspirational brands, such as Coach.

People, he said, were wondering whether Burberry would rapidly reduce pricing, go down market or open up hundreds of outlets.

“That’s not our plan,” Schulman said. “We are a luxury brand with broad universal appeal. And when I think about the top five luxury brands, those luxury brands have broad universal appeal, and each has a different way of exciting customers. Some use lipstick as the entry point. Some use sunglasses. Our core is outerwear and apparel.”

Because Burberry is “putting the customer at the center of everything we do,” as Schulman said, the brand is not taking a monolithic view of the luxury consumer, and considers five archetypes: the most fashion forward, the investor, the conservative sector, the hedonist and the aspiring customer. The framework was introduced at Schulman’s first town hall for the Burberry teams. “When we come up with our marketing campaigns, we’re thinking through that lens of how we deal with the breadth of the luxury customer,” Schulman said.

He also spoke of staging “luxurious fashion shows…supported by great product at a range of luxury prices — good, better, best — to serve a variety of luxury consumers.”

“It’s a fairly tough consumer environment out there, so we have a lot of work to do, but there is a real sense of purpose and a sense of excitement and ambition,” he said.

Burberry, hurt by the sluggishness in the global luxury market as well as its own missteps, posted a first-half operating loss of 53 million pounds on the back of a 22 percent decline in revenue to 1.09 billion pounds. When those results were issued, Schulman, said the company is “acting with urgency to course correct, stabilize the business and position Burberry for a return to sustainable, profitable growth.” For fiscal 2024, Burberry reported a 4 percent decline in revenue to 2.97 billion pounds, with adjusted operating profit falling 34 percent to 418 million pounds.

Though it’s early days in the turnaround strategy, Schulman told the NRF audience, “We have started to see the shift in the brand sentiment…where we disappointed our customer before, now we’re surprising and delighting them.”

Speaking generally about reviving brands, Schulman said, “You can’t just repeat the past. You have to create an echo of why people love the brand in the first place and adapt.

“Really, the modern Burberry was launched about 25 years ago when Rose Marie Bravo [a former Burberry CEO and Saks Fifth Avenue president] changed the brand from Burberry’s to Burberry and reinvented it into a modern luxury brand the way we know it.” It has a unique identity of being one of the few British fashion brands with scale, Schulman said.

Getting personal, Schulman said, “I was a pretty strange kid, because I was interested in stores, and I was interested in department stores, especially shopping malls, and not necessarily to shop, but I went there to just look at them and to study them. I went to most of the Nordstrom openings” in California.

When Schulman was 14, he sent a letter to Jim Nordstrom [Pete’s late uncle] when Nordstrom opened a department store in his neighborhood. “I gave all sorts of probably unwarranted tips.” Surprisingly, Nordstrom wrote back. “He actually tried to get together with me, when he was in California at Horton Plaza, and at that point, my parents were like, we can’t drive down to San Diego on that day.”

Schulman’s career started at a small clothing store in Beverly Hills where Kris Kardashian and Kathy Hilton shopped among other celebrity moms and where he learned retail operations, curating product and display. He later interned for Marc Jacobs and Robert Duffy at Perry Ellis, and became an account executive and sales manager. Tom Ford also worked there. Schulman felt there was a “mismatch” between the creative ambitions of the designers and the ambitions of the company itself. “They didn’t know how to harness this very creative talent they had. That was a lesson that became very important later in my career that I didn’t even realize I was learning at that point. Marc was fired from Perry Ellis, which was the best thing that happened in his career.”

Schulman subsequently worked at Richard Tyler in Los Angeles. “It was a brand that was emerging and had a great celebrity following.” Because of his interest in Nordstrom as a kid, Nordstrom became a big part of Richard Tyler’s distribution plan.

Later, Schulman joined Gucci, working alongside Ford as that brand’s transformation was already progressing. When Gucci acquired St. Laurent, Schulman moved to Paris to oversee global sales. At the time, Schulman was in his late 20s. Later, he ran Jimmy Choo, Bergdorf Goodman, Coach and Michael Kors.

“I had big jobs, but I also had amazing mentors who gave me opportunities,” Schulman said.

Nordstrom asked about the industry narrative that department stores are a dying breed, to which Schulman replied: “For Burberry and other brands, Nordstrom is an incredible showcase to a very important customer segment in the United States, and it’s important for emerging brands. It is also important, not only for the initial discovery of the brand, but to discover how a brand can be changing and evolving,” as is the case with Burberry.

“We have some customers who come to us once a year for a coat and then [again] for a gift…but not with the frequency that they might at Nordstrom where they’re dressing themselves, and dressing their family.”
WWD

At this point, we've heard more from Schulmann in 6 months, then we have from Lee himself in his 2.5 years.
 
^ the more this guy talks the more I’m convinced they’re already looking for some cheap, submissive outerwear designer who will replace Lee…
 
They are so directionless that I will not surprised if they are thinking "What about taking the ex-JS duo to make the old-money trend great again at Burberry?"
 
And we here from the CEO who is never talking about the designer.
LVMH needs to wait and get Lee at Loewe.
this right

its so disrespectful and not professional regardless if he will be let go, while he is there you should mention the creative director joint efforts with your ceo goals etc

he comes off as a typical case of the star ceo thats wants to be the main event .

its nausa he talks to much on what's wrong and we just heard it one time recently already ........its time to put in the work silently, the ig looks a mess and check overkill ......even LV has a better monogram exposure balance on IG

i dont even like what lee is doing there but this ceo is not bringing clarity either
 

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