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Alessandro Michele - Designer, Creative Director of Valentino


Nothing worse than a fashion designer claming to be the next messiah and pushing a thrift store asthetic showing up at events carrying a 3500 women bag while paired with Vans shoes.YUCK
I hate those designers dressing like clowns and then acting all intellectuals in interviews and on the runway.
 
Nothing worse than a fashion designer claiming to be the next messiah and pushing a thrift store aesthetic showing up at events carrying a 3500 women bag while paired with Vans shoes.YUCK
I hate those designers dressing like clowns and then acting all intellectuals in interviews and on the runway.
being an intellectual does not mean you can't indulge in granny clothes :-) , they can't be all like JW.Anderson either :-)

All jokes aside i feel Alessandro is more a philosopher type than intelectual, its more about feeling on his life and his relationship to clothes than concept of questions of what clothes should be in 2025.

How did the philosophers distinguish themselves from other intellectuals?

Overall, the first philosophers distinguished themselves through their dedication to reason, observation, and intellectual curiosity, paving the way for a new intellectual tradition focused on inquiry, speculation, and critical thinking.


Albert Einstein (theoretical physicist) slightly off topic :-) would be thrift store aesthetic these days if you would judge his dress choices, i doubt he would be into prada or the row even if his furry shoes he did it before Phoebe :-)

i think the whole nerd group are more factual into Alessandro's `s thrift store aesthetic world category than we would love to believe minimalist and modern aesthetic to fit with intellectual modern aesthetic.

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^ ChatGPT says you're being too nice...

I just think Allessandro is very influenced by his Grandma, not making a joke. I think he may find security in dressing this way....

Hes dressed like honestly someone from the Lower East Side, Manhattan. I couldn't really tell you the difference.... A bunch of random thrift store clothes with Vans and a designer purse...
 
Nothing worse than a fashion designer claming to be the next messiah and pushing a thrift store asthetic showing up at events carrying a 3500 women bag while paired with Vans shoes.YUCK
I hate those designers dressing like clowns and then acting all intellectuals in interviews and on the runway.

What does wearing specific clothing and having particular taste have to do with being an intellectual and one's critical capabilities?
 
What does wearing specific clothing and having particular taste have to do with being an intellectual and one's critical capabilities?
That is so true. Whenever I see a woman still wearing her old Celine turtle-neck jumper, the row bag with a pair of white sneakers and no socks, I don't see an intellectual woman; I see one basic b*tch with no original thought
 
Nothing worse than a fashion designer claming to be the next messiah and pushing a thrift store asthetic showing up at events carrying a 3500 women bag while paired with Vans shoes.YUCK
I hate those designers dressing like clowns and then acting all intellectuals in interviews and on the runway.
Speaking of thrift store asthetic :lol: DSM has a portable toilet disguised as a dressing room in that picture background lamo
 
Nothing worse than a fashion designer claming to be the next messiah and pushing a thrift store asthetic showing up at events carrying a 3500 women bag while paired with Vans shoes.YUCK
I hate those designers dressing like clowns and then acting all intellectuals in interviews and on the runway.
Michele is always being like himself, but Venturini is actually very stylish here.
 


I’m genuinely interested to see if this Valentino will resonate with shoppers or will he have to pivot from this direction. It’s just cute but I don’t feel any emotion for this.

It seems like a lot of money being poured into this project, they will want their return on investment. He will need to be flexible if this does not generate sales

I actually love them. They are doing what I wish a lot of online commentators should do: going to stores to look at the stuff.

And furthermore, it’s not like “intellectuals” dress the same anyway, what a bizarre notion.
Intellectuals, like artists dress terribly anyway. The fantasy fashion people put in their field elevated the perception people have of their style but they have a lot of time terrible style.

But thank god, style doesn’t define the value of an individual. I know some terrible person with good style that are absolutely boring and stupid!

I take Alessandro over JWA anyway. I like when people who makes clothes enjoy wearing clothes, regardless of their style. For example I loved Alber Elbaz’s uniform.
 


I’m genuinely interested to see if this Valentino will resonate with shoppers or will he have to pivot from this direction. It’s just cute but I don’t feel any emotion for this.

It seems like a lot of money being poured into this project, they will want their return on investment. He will need to be flexible if this does not generate sales

So basically according to them everything is cool or cute…haaaha annoying both of them…in the end do they bought something or is it was just to make “content”?
 
I know that SA was mad as hell with those two touching everything and not buying. They didn't even plug the SA. I would have been like if you dont GTFO...
Plugged for what? They didn’t do anything lol

So basically according to them everything is cool or cute…haaaha annoying both of them…in the end do they bought something or is it was just to make “content”?
I doubt they bought anything, I think they are more second hand, vintage or probably buy things marked down - purely my assumption though.
 
So basically according to them everything is cool or cute…haaaha annoying both of them…in the end do they bought something or is it was just to make “content”?
They are essentially making content and I have seen the longer video and there are some things they don’t like and they share their opinion.
They are industry people. So they aren’t going to spend 10K on a Valentino piece anyway…
But they are showcasing pieces that caught their attention.

I think their context is totally relevant because ultimately it’s about the pieces themselves. On a show, a silly idea like the double heels by Jacquemus may look fun but silly. But on the shelves of a DS, it can look surprising, daring, fun but also still silly because unpractical…So it means, straight to the outlet.
 
L.A. is the home of the homeless, and the common sartorial aesthetic of the unsheltered is to pile on every item of clothing one has all at once, no matter if they match, no matter what the season. That's the look Signore Michele seems to be adopting in his ensemble – just throwing anything and everything within reach on his back with no concern as to how it looks. In his own horrible way, he's making Mugatu's "Derelicte" a reality.
 
^ ChatGPT says you're being too nice...

I just think Allessandro is very influenced by his Grandma, not making a joke. I think he may find security in dressing this way....

Hes dressed like honestly someone from the Lower East Side, Manhattan. I couldn't really tell you the difference.... A bunch of random thrift store clothes with Vans and a designer purse...
He never hide that he loves stage/film costume and his mother worked in the film world all part of things that inspired Michele’s “weird” (his words) upbringing in Rome it's all not a secret also ChatGPT confirms this. he learned to design both theatrical costumes and fashion wear.

not being nice just being objective i don't even personally love most of his output but i understand why he got so successful and its interesting to follow seeing if he can replicate his success again by being exactly what he is and likes as Michele refers to himself as an art archaeologist - historicist of garments - rather than a creative director.

some of you guys do like you discovered his secret it's all in plain sight.... his motivation and obsessions the "assemblage" style of his styling.
 
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Been almost two months since the release of the first Michele collection, do we have any feedback from store SA regarding sales and commercial success? Are the bags selling? Are people interested in the new propositions? I don't know about you, but I feel like his new tenure started with no absolute buzz from both the fashion pack and the general public. I have the feeling most find his aesthetic to be quite demodè and people who bought his Gucci transitioned to other brands. They better come up with a new bag for Spring Summer since there is basically no difference in RTW between the first Cruise release and the first official RTW collection.
 

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