Demna Gvasalia - Designer, Creative Director of Balenciaga

It's so weird, it's unreal.
It took him all this time to say something and THIS is what he came up with?
Up until now he's name wasn't even mentioned.
He should have kept silent until he can come out with an actual explanation.
This statement might be the final nail. It's EMBARRASSING.
 
OMG, this whole situation has been such a huge mess. It's unbelievable that Balenciaga can't handle it in a proper way and instead they chose gaslighting.

I can see Demna staying at the house for a while. However, I don't think his contract will get extended. Not only will it be caused by this and all the possible scandals, but also by the death of hypebeast streetwear. At some point Demna will become so problematic for the brand that defending him in any way would cause even more harm. We can see it now and it could have been predicted with that press release for the last show. Kering has created a monster and now they have to deal with it.
 
OMG, this whole situation has been such a huge mess. It's unbelievable that Balenciaga can't handle it in a proper way and instead they chose gaslighting.


I can see Demna staying at the house for a while. However, I don't think his contract will get extended. Not only will it be caused by this and all the possible scandals, but also by the death of hypebeast streetwear. At some point Demna will become so problematic for the brand that defending him in any way would cause even more harm. We can see it now and it could have been predicted with that press release for the last show. Kering has created a monster and now they have to deal with it.

Taking that into consideration while looking at the patterns of creative director hirings and firings under Kering, we can guess when Demna's contract ends:
Balenciaga
Alexander Wang: 2012 - 2015 (3 years)
Bottega Veneta
Tomas Meier: 2001 - 2018 (17 years)
Daniel Lee: 2018 - 2021 (3 years)
Gucci
Tom Ford: 1994 - 2004 (10 years)
Alessandra Fachinetti: 2004 - 2005 (1 year)
Frida Giannini: 2005 - 2015 (10 years)
Alessandro Michele: 2015 - 2022 (almost 8 years)
Saint Laurent
Tom Ford: 2000 - 2004 (4 years)
Stefano Pilati: 2004 - 2012 (8 years)
Hedi Slimane: 2012 - 2016 (4 years)

I left out Ghesquiére and Elbaz because they were hired in pre-Kering conditions and I left out the ongoing tenures for obvious reasons.
It seems like Kering contracts are done in sets of 3 - 4 years (with the exceptions having quite brutal ends), so Demna's contract will either either end next year (4 years, renewed once) or in 2024 (3 years, renewed twice). Of course, this is all assuming he doesn't quit before because Kering revoking his total carte blanche on Balenciaga.
 
Poor lil'bears, their only guilt (to me at least) is their blatant ugliness. I tried to shake my head and the rest of brain inside to figure out why they are so bad but can't see why it went to such a crappy controversy. They're just... ugly teddy-bears in a fast-fed-fast-forgotten ad campaign.
 
PS: But if we can get rid of Demna this way, I'm the first to jump onboard. Michele's out of Gucci and we still have to bear (sorry for the pun) Gvasalia's sartorial nonsenses...
 
May he rest in peace, I don't want to sound disrespectful to Josephus but more than just a noisy show (that was just an excuse for the owner at that time Hoechst to fire him), Balenciaga was left behind, it wasn't the name people talking about during the 90s. That's why Hoechst want star designers at the time like Helmut Lang or Yohji to revive the brand. Nicolas wasn't even considered because at that time he only did licenses, that's why everyone was surprised when he got the job.

Also, what's a different time for fashion, back then you could walk out of a show and still get invited back. Good luck doing that today, walk out and you ban for life.
 
Has anyone read this mornings‘ BoF ? I’m not a subscriber but would be interested in their take . They were the first big publication to react
 
Has anyone read this mornings‘ BoF ? I’m not a subscriber but would be interested in their take . They were the first big publication to react


Balenciaga’s Breakdown: What Went Wrong and What Comes Next
Late Friday, the brand issued further apologies and abandoned its plan to sue a production company amid continued outrage in response to its recent holiday campaign.

By
Robert Williams
02 December 2022
BoF PROFESSIONAL

Spray paint on stores. Slashed and burned products on social media. Accusations of promoting pedophilia on cable news.
This week, the risks of Balenciaga’s edgy approach to marketing became painfully clear — as did the errors of the company’s initial response to the crisis — as public outrage and confusion in response to the brand’s ads featuring children posing with BDSM-inspired teddy bears reached a scale not seen in the fashion industry since Dolce & Gabbana’s 2018 meltdown in China.
Late Friday, Balenciaga’s leadership issued personal apologies and said the company would drop a planned lawsuit against two external partners who had worked on its campaigns.
“I want to personally apologise for the wrong artistic choice of concept for the gifting campaign with the kids,” the brand’s creative director Demna said on Instagram. “I want to personally reiterate my sincere apologies for the offence caused and take my responsibility,” chief executive Cédric Charbit added.

The moves came after previous statements apologising for the campaigns had failed to quell the outcry. Though no major retailers have pulled Balenciaga products, by the end of the week, at least two Balenciaga stores — in key locations including LA’s Rodeo Drive and London’s Bond Street — had been vandalised and videos featuring people destroying the brand’s products circulated on TikTok.
What went wrong, and can Balenciaga get back on track?
What happened?
On Nov. 16, Balenciaga posted a holiday gifting campaign shot by Gabriele Galimberti, a photographer known for having subjects pose alongside collections of personal objects such as toys, guns and medicines. Balenciaga’s campaign featured children posing in bedrooms alongside spreads of the brand’s products spread out like toys. After a short period of positive buzz, the ads began to draw angry criticism for accessorising the children with the brand’s S&M inspired teddy bears in the intimate set-up, sparking accusations that Balenciaga was sexualising children.
The backlash grew as some social media users claimed to have found pedophilic messages embedded in another, separate campaign for Spring/Summer 2023 published weeks before, which featured Isabelle Huppert in an office scene. A legal brief spilling out of the actress’s bag turned out to be a Supreme Court decision regarding child p*rn*gr*phy. A name on a fake diploma appeared to match that of a convicted abuser, and a book on the desk was about Michael Borremans, an artist whose works have depicted mutilated children’s bodies.


A Tweet slamming the campaign went viral, particularly in right-wing social media circles where QAnon conspiracy theories are popular. On Nov. 22, the story was picked up by Fox News commentator Tucker Carlson, who accused the brand of openly promoting child p*rn*gr*phy and sex with children. (Balenciaga says it condemns all abuse of children). Meanwhile, on the other side of the political spectrum, fashion news Instagrammers Diet Prada, known for its left-leaning callouts, condemned the holiday gifting shoot.
On Nov. 23, engulfed by a backlash on both sides of America’s political divide, Balenciaga apologised and pulled the campaigns, acknowledging in a brief statement that the teddy bears should not have been featured with children, and saying the company would “take legal action against the parties responsible for creating the set and including unapproved items.”
On Nov. 26 the brand offered a more detailed apology, after key brand ambassador Kim Kardashian addressed the scandal, saying she would “review” her relationship with the house. The brand cited “grievous errors for which Balenciaga takes responsibility” and took “accountability for our lack of oversight and control.” The brand condemned child abuse, promised to review its approval processes and said it was exploring plans to support children’s rights organisations.
Still, regarding the campaign featuring Huppert, Balenciaga said it would continue with its legal action alleging “reckless negligence” by third-parties involved with creating the images, which a complaint seeking $25 million in damages later revealed to be production company North Six and set designer Nicholas Des Jardins.

The apologies failed to calm the fury. Instead, online outrage boiled over into real world acts as stores were vandalised, though no retailers have said they would drop the brand.
Could things have gone differently?
Balenciaga’s response to the crisis was less than ideal in terms of speed and messaging, communications experts said. First Balenciaga was slow to provide a substantial response: a more complete apology, explanation and action plan than the brand’s initial statement would have been more effective on the first day of the crisis. By waiting days to more fully address the issue, the brand risked appearing like it wasn’t taking the campaign backlash seriously.
To be fair, the backlash was complex and unfolded in stages, making it harder to craft a stronger response. But Balenciaga’s multi-part apology only gave the crisis more oxygen, extending its newsworthiness. So did the brand’s legal action, which many in the industry saw as deflection.
Indeed, the legal complaint became a key blunder in the brand’s response: Balenciaga appeared to try and avoid taking full accountability for its central mistake — posing children with sexual objects — by defending itself from what it saw as unjustified attacks inspired by its more easily forgivable slip-up with the Huppert campaign: its failure to do exhaustive sensitivity checks on every object in a complex set design. In short, portraying itself as a victim of its contractors’ negligence detracted from the brand’s credibility when saying it was taking responsibility for the incident. “The brand appeared to be saying “not our fault,” crisis communications expert Mory Fontanez said.
Balenciaga also failed to sufficiently explain the intention behind its gifting campaign — and what, specifically, went wrong. “There’s a lot of fear around admitting with vulnerability the truth about the process,” Fontanez said. But being seen as incompetent may have been preferable to being seen as a proponent of child p*rn*gr*phy. By explaining more fully its creative brief and process, Balenciaga might have reassured more consumers who were willing to see the issue as a misstep rather than something more malicious.
Where does Balenciaga go from here?
Apart from the apologies issued by Demna and Charbit, Balenciaga appears to be keeping a low-profile while it waits for the news to die down. The brand has abandoned plans to appear at several events, including BoF VOICES 2022 gathering and the upcoming Fashion Awards, while it says it is “closely revising its organisation.”
In Charbit’s statement Friday, the CEO said it had nominated an “Image Board” responsible for evaluating content including “legal, sustainability and diversity expertise” as well as hiring an external agency. No personnel exits were announced, but the company said it had “reorganised [its] image department to ensure full alignment with our corporate guidelines.”
But putting in place a culture that better takes public sensitivities into account, all while keeping up the volume and velocity of marketing that social media demands, could be challenging for Balenciaga, which has staked its success under creative director Demna on sparking controversy with designs and marketing that willfully push the limits of acceptability. The brand has sold destroyed sneakers and bedazzled platform Crocs, fuelling the kind of debate that drives social media algorithms. The brand has waded into riskier waters, too, marketing leather trash bags on models that appeared to reference refugees and casting rapper Ye to open its spring-summer 2023 runway show even as the entertainer was facing criticism for incendiary statements.

It’s still unclear how much of a hit Balenciaga’s sales will take from the crisis, or how long it will take for the uproar to subside. Backlashes previously faced by brands like Gucci and H&M over insensitive products and campaigns were relatively short-lived, although Dolce & Gabbana faced a longer road to recovery after issuing advertisements that appeared to mock Chinese people, spending millions on marketing before sales recovered. (As of 2021, revenues in China were still below 2018-2019 levels, despite growing 20 percent year-on-year, the privately-held company said).
Shares in Balenciaga-owner Kering closed the week up 4 percent compared to a 1 percent increase in the Stoxx 600 index. Investors don’t appear to be pricing in any severe or lengthy damage to fast-growing Balenciaga’s desirability following the incident (Analysts said shares were also supported this week by increased optimism about China loosening Covid-19 restrictions, which could lift sales for all Kering’s brands, including the larger and more profitable Gucci.)
At stores in London and New York on Thursday, Balenciaga stores indeed appeared to be operating normally, with similarly-sized queues as seen at neighbouring boutiques. Multi-brand retail sources, however, said demand for the brand has declined sharply, with some sellers receiving angry messages from customers and requests for reimbursement. That the scandal has coincided with the key holiday shopping season only makes matters worse. Even consumers who choose to forgive the brand may see its products as awkward Christmas presents.
“This is the nth example of how potentially dangerous this new era of frequent and two-way communication has become for fashion and luxury goods brands…[which] need to introduce safeguards and controls to make sure their messages are well received,” luxury analyst Luca Solca said. However, Balenciaga’s apologies “should produce good damage limitation,” Solca added.

Additional reporting by Malique Morris and Rachel Deeley.
 
Balenciaga’s Breakdown: What Went Wrong and What Comes Next
Late Friday, the brand issued further apologies and abandoned its plan to sue a production company amid continued outrage in response to its recent holiday campaign.

By
Robert Williams
02 December 2022
BoF PROFESSIONAL

Spray paint on stores. Slashed and burned products on social media. Accusations of promoting pedophilia on cable news.
This week, the risks of Balenciaga’s edgy approach to marketing became painfully clear — as did the errors of the company’s initial response to the crisis — as public outrage and confusion in response to the brand’s ads featuring children posing with BDSM-inspired teddy bears reached a scale not seen in the fashion industry since Dolce & Gabbana’s 2018 meltdown in China.
Late Friday, Balenciaga’s leadership issued personal apologies and said the company would drop a planned lawsuit against two external partners who had worked on its campaigns.
“I want to personally apologise for the wrong artistic choice of concept for the gifting campaign with the kids,” the brand’s creative director Demna said on Instagram. “I want to personally reiterate my sincere apologies for the offence caused and take my responsibility,” chief executive Cédric Charbit added.

The moves came after previous statements apologising for the campaigns had failed to quell the outcry. Though no major retailers have pulled Balenciaga products, by the end of the week, at least two Balenciaga stores — in key locations including LA’s Rodeo Drive and London’s Bond Street — had been vandalised and videos featuring people destroying the brand’s products circulated on TikTok.
What went wrong, and can Balenciaga get back on track?
What happened?
On Nov. 16, Balenciaga posted a holiday gifting campaign shot by Gabriele Galimberti, a photographer known for having subjects pose alongside collections of personal objects such as toys, guns and medicines. Balenciaga’s campaign featured children posing in bedrooms alongside spreads of the brand’s products spread out like toys. After a short period of positive buzz, the ads began to draw angry criticism for accessorising the children with the brand’s S&M inspired teddy bears in the intimate set-up, sparking accusations that Balenciaga was sexualising children.
The backlash grew as some social media users claimed to have found pedophilic messages embedded in another, separate campaign for Spring/Summer 2023 published weeks before, which featured Isabelle Huppert in an office scene. A legal brief spilling out of the actress’s bag turned out to be a Supreme Court decision regarding child p*rn*gr*phy. A name on a fake diploma appeared to match that of a convicted abuser, and a book on the desk was about Michael Borremans, an artist whose works have depicted mutilated children’s bodies.


A Tweet slamming the campaign went viral, particularly in right-wing social media circles where QAnon conspiracy theories are popular. On Nov. 22, the story was picked up by Fox News commentator Tucker Carlson, who accused the brand of openly promoting child p*rn*gr*phy and sex with children. (Balenciaga says it condemns all abuse of children). Meanwhile, on the other side of the political spectrum, fashion news Instagrammers Diet Prada, known for its left-leaning callouts, condemned the holiday gifting shoot.
On Nov. 23, engulfed by a backlash on both sides of America’s political divide, Balenciaga apologised and pulled the campaigns, acknowledging in a brief statement that the teddy bears should not have been featured with children, and saying the company would “take legal action against the parties responsible for creating the set and including unapproved items.”
On Nov. 26 the brand offered a more detailed apology, after key brand ambassador Kim Kardashian addressed the scandal, saying she would “review” her relationship with the house. The brand cited “grievous errors for which Balenciaga takes responsibility” and took “accountability for our lack of oversight and control.” The brand condemned child abuse, promised to review its approval processes and said it was exploring plans to support children’s rights organisations.
Still, regarding the campaign featuring Huppert, Balenciaga said it would continue with its legal action alleging “reckless negligence” by third-parties involved with creating the images, which a complaint seeking $25 million in damages later revealed to be production company North Six and set designer Nicholas Des Jardins.

The apologies failed to calm the fury. Instead, online outrage boiled over into real world acts as stores were vandalised, though no retailers have said they would drop the brand.
Could things have gone differently?
Balenciaga’s response to the crisis was less than ideal in terms of speed and messaging, communications experts said. First Balenciaga was slow to provide a substantial response: a more complete apology, explanation and action plan than the brand’s initial statement would have been more effective on the first day of the crisis. By waiting days to more fully address the issue, the brand risked appearing like it wasn’t taking the campaign backlash seriously.
To be fair, the backlash was complex and unfolded in stages, making it harder to craft a stronger response. But Balenciaga’s multi-part apology only gave the crisis more oxygen, extending its newsworthiness. So did the brand’s legal action, which many in the industry saw as deflection.
Indeed, the legal complaint became a key blunder in the brand’s response: Balenciaga appeared to try and avoid taking full accountability for its central mistake — posing children with sexual objects — by defending itself from what it saw as unjustified attacks inspired by its more easily forgivable slip-up with the Huppert campaign: its failure to do exhaustive sensitivity checks on every object in a complex set design. In short, portraying itself as a victim of its contractors’ negligence detracted from the brand’s credibility when saying it was taking responsibility for the incident. “The brand appeared to be saying “not our fault,” crisis communications expert Mory Fontanez said.
Balenciaga also failed to sufficiently explain the intention behind its gifting campaign — and what, specifically, went wrong. “There’s a lot of fear around admitting with vulnerability the truth about the process,” Fontanez said. But being seen as incompetent may have been preferable to being seen as a proponent of child p*rn*gr*phy. By explaining more fully its creative brief and process, Balenciaga might have reassured more consumers who were willing to see the issue as a misstep rather than something more malicious.
Where does Balenciaga go from here?
Apart from the apologies issued by Demna and Charbit, Balenciaga appears to be keeping a low-profile while it waits for the news to die down. The brand has abandoned plans to appear at several events, including BoF VOICES 2022 gathering and the upcoming Fashion Awards, while it says it is “closely revising its organisation.”
In Charbit’s statement Friday, the CEO said it had nominated an “Image Board” responsible for evaluating content including “legal, sustainability and diversity expertise” as well as hiring an external agency. No personnel exits were announced, but the company said it had “reorganised [its] image department to ensure full alignment with our corporate guidelines.”
But putting in place a culture that better takes public sensitivities into account, all while keeping up the volume and velocity of marketing that social media demands, could be challenging for Balenciaga, which has staked its success under creative director Demna on sparking controversy with designs and marketing that willfully push the limits of acceptability. The brand has sold destroyed sneakers and bedazzled platform Crocs, fuelling the kind of debate that drives social media algorithms. The brand has waded into riskier waters, too, marketing leather trash bags on models that appeared to reference refugees and casting rapper Ye to open its spring-summer 2023 runway show even as the entertainer was facing criticism for incendiary statements.

It’s still unclear how much of a hit Balenciaga’s sales will take from the crisis, or how long it will take for the uproar to subside. Backlashes previously faced by brands like Gucci and H&M over insensitive products and campaigns were relatively short-lived, although Dolce & Gabbana faced a longer road to recovery after issuing advertisements that appeared to mock Chinese people, spending millions on marketing before sales recovered. (As of 2021, revenues in China were still below 2018-2019 levels, despite growing 20 percent year-on-year, the privately-held company said).
Shares in Balenciaga-owner Kering closed the week up 4 percent compared to a 1 percent increase in the Stoxx 600 index. Investors don’t appear to be pricing in any severe or lengthy damage to fast-growing Balenciaga’s desirability following the incident (Analysts said shares were also supported this week by increased optimism about China loosening Covid-19 restrictions, which could lift sales for all Kering’s brands, including the larger and more profitable Gucci.)
At stores in London and New York on Thursday, Balenciaga stores indeed appeared to be operating normally, with similarly-sized queues as seen at neighbouring boutiques. Multi-brand retail sources, however, said demand for the brand has declined sharply, with some sellers receiving angry messages from customers and requests for reimbursement. That the scandal has coincided with the key holiday shopping season only makes matters worse. Even consumers who choose to forgive the brand may see its products as awkward Christmas presents.
“This is the nth example of how potentially dangerous this new era of frequent and two-way communication has become for fashion and luxury goods brands…[which] need to introduce safeguards and controls to make sure their messages are well received,” luxury analyst Luca Solca said. However, Balenciaga’s apologies “should produce good damage limitation,” Solca added.

Additional reporting by Malique Morris and Rachel Deeley.
thank you ! This seems to sum it up in quite a matter of fact way
 
Demna and his whole team should’ve been fired already… Whoever is making the decisions there is missing at every opportunity, from the ridiculous apologies they keep posting which sound inauthentic and tone deaf.

The only way to pull this brand out of the mud so to speak is to fire the whole team and restart again. I feel this is the only way the brand can really distance itself from this mess.

We honestly need a change, we don’t want destroyed sneakers, trash bags we are tired of ugly fashion etc we want refinement, beauty, elegance.

A petition to get rid of Demna should be started and we must demand a new era in Fashion.
 
May he rest in peace, I don't want to sound disrespectful to Josephus but more than just a noisy show (that was just an excuse for the owner at that time Hoechst to fire him), Balenciaga was left behind, it wasn't the name people talking about during the 90s. That's why Hoechst want star designers at the time like Helmut Lang or Yohji to revive the brand. Nicolas wasn't even considered because at that time he only did licenses, that's why everyone was surprised when he got the job.

Also, what's a different time for fashion, back then you could walk out of a show and still get invited back. Good luck doing that today, walk out and you ban for life.
I don't even think Nicolas was supposed to be a permanent hire at that point. He did funeral clothing for the Japanese market (hence all of the black clothing he did early on in his tenure) and supposed was a sort of placeholder for the Spring'98 season, but they liked the boost in popularity Balenciaga got so he stayed as the permanent creative director.
 
Demna and his whole team should’ve been fired already… Whoever is making the decisions there is missing at every opportunity, from the ridiculous apologies they keep posting which sound inauthentic and tone deaf.

The only way to pull this brand out of the mud so to speak is to fire the whole team and restart again. I feel this is the only way the brand can really distance itself from this mess.

We honestly need a change, we don’t want destroyed sneakers, trash bags we are tired of ugly fashion etc we want refinement, beauty, elegance.

A petition to get rid of Demna should be started and we must demand a new era in Fashion.
This could be happening soon since according to this post, half of Kering want Demna and Charbit out. Chances are he won't renew his contract, so 2023 - 2025 could be a new fresh start for Balenciaga.
 
This could be happening soon since according to this post, half of Kering want Demna and Charbit out. Chances are he won't renew his contract, so 2023 - 2025 could be a new fresh start for Balenciaga.

The next year will be crutial. The only response Demna and Charbit can give is creative. If the next collections have good reviews, impulse something new and if they manages to be part of a conversation without relying on the « provocative stunts », he will be renewed.
This is the controversy « De trop » and if 2023 is just another year of trolls products and controversies, even good sales won’t help him.
 
The next year will be crutial. The only response Demna and Charbit can give is creative. If the next collections have good reviews, impulse something new and if they manages to be part of a conversation without relying on the « provocative stunts », he will be renewed.
This is the controversy « De trop » and if 2023 is just another year of trolls products and controversies, even good sales won’t help him.
this might be true for people who actually read reviews, but I doubt the general public will care one way or another. The name Balenciaga is tainted and will be for a while , regardless of what the collection will be like next season. It’s sad because I really did like a lot of what Demna did , bar those trashbags and mud shows
 

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