Discussion: Who Should Be The Creative Director of Chanel?

Jeremy Scott did an amazing collection for Moschino in the style of Chanel back in 2023 ! I'm rooting for him ! He's very imaginative ! He knows how to come up with inventive ideas for accessories, bags and jewelry. Chanel should be luxurious and sophisticated but also fun and uplifting ! Hedi and Phoebe are boring as can be ! They don't really know how to make couture or put on a great show !
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Plot twist it was Anthony (Vaccarello) all along. Consider he already caught the attention of Bruno Pavlovsky, and he proved that he can do a Chanel tribute on a budget.☠️
Chanel does not hire CD´s that try to copy Chanel,I forgot where that quote/interview was from.
 
Not sure if I was able to read everything but I’m surprised I haven’t seen Giamba being mentioned here and he’s been applying for that role for a looooong time lol
 
Apparently, today’s main task chez TFS is throwing random names that could never be an option and that would never work, so here I am:

- Joseph Altuzarra (a talent like no one)
- Alexander Want (his brand turning 20 years old might be interesting for the Wertheirmers)
- Marine Serré (she’s French and a kind of GenZ Coco mademoiselle 2.0)
- Raf Simons
- Donatella Versace
This person right here, officer
 
Since I don't have any realistic ideas on who could take over, so I'm going to give my opinion on designers whose names are being thrown about:

Hedi Slimane
The most likely choice.

He could wonders for Chanel, but Chanel isn't just any other medium-sized brand that makes 100 to 200 millions a year, Chanel is a whole cultural institution with several ateliers and product lines. It will be a challenge, mainly because the breath of Chanel would demand him to expand beyond his long established formulas.

While I doubt that he's stupid enough to actually try to redesign everything from the bottom-up, he would definitely revamp the visual direction throughout the brand. Also, PR will be absolute hell for the brand.

Pierpaolo Piccioli
A close second to Hedi.

He'll definitely deliver the superficial opulent drama for the couture shows, but as for whether he'll actually be able to deliver ready-to-wear is debatable. Luckily for him, bags pretty much design themselves at Chanel, so he just needs to colour co-ordinate when he styles them with each look.

The image direction during his solo tenure at Valentino was very poor. The image direction for campaigns and runway shows hinged itself mainly on identity politics and celebrities, rather than an actual identity or vision. That won't go very far at Chanel.

Sarah Burton
Her romantic vision of lace, taffeta and chiffon would be a good addition to the brand's twed suiting. She also seems like she would mesh in very well with the rest of the brand's creative directors.

Like PPP's Valentino, her McQueen was very lackluster in terms of image direction, styling, casting to the point that she could become a technically accomplished Viard. I'd rather she fly solo at a brand like Givenchy.

Jeremy Scott
My personal favourite of the names thrown around.

His Moschino was definitely very Lagerfeld-like in terms of embracing bad taste in a witty, elevated way. He constantly reinvents himself and plays with the codes of the bourgeoisie (Bar Jackets, tweed, etc.) and he knows how to stage an iconic show without compromising the designs themselves.

He'll definitely need to reign in the weirdness back for the first few years to win the approval of Chanel's customer base. Lagerfeld was only able to do those more experimental collections in his last 15 years after 2 decades of modifying Chanel's codes to conform to some form of contemporary good taste.

Other Options
The only designer that I was passionate about taking over Chanel renewed his contract last year, but @Page666 did propose a really good solution, which was to take someone from his team. Several designers have proven to be capable of becoming amazing creative directors of their own right, from the clothes themselves to the visual direction around them.

Another idea from @thiago:) is to pull a Chemena and appoint an internal designer that has history with the brand. They can play with the iconic visual elements of 90s/00s Chanel and reintroduce them to a modern audience. Doing so would be peak brand storytelling too.
 
If I own Chanel (lmao)…
1. first see how Hedi gets along with the ateliers..let’s face it, I’m sure Hedi can be difficult to work with, and the real treasure of Chanel lies within its ateliers (as we see how Chanel can thrive with a mid CD in the short term)…they can afford to lose a CD but not their ateliers.

2. Hire Hedi for 5 years. He will whip quality and image back into shape, create Homme, as well as a new set of classics and carryover items that they can bank on for rainy days.

3. Invest heavily in young talents internally for promotion in 5 years. It’d be great to have someone trained by both Karl and Hedi for the long term. If not, get Nicholas or JW Anderson.
 
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Not sure if I was able to read everything but I’m surprised I haven’t seen Giamba being mentioned here and he’s been applying for that role for a looooong time lol
Well you might as well mention the guy from self portrait
 

CHANEL REVOLUTION: WILL HEDI SLIMANE REPLACE VIRGINIE VIARD AS NEW DESIGNER AT ICONIC PARIS FASHION HOUSE?​

Virginie Viard has left Chanel after thirty years — what does this mean for the Parisian house, asks Victoria Moss
VICTORIA MOSS

A fashion revolution has erupted in Paris as Virginie Viard exits her role as artistic director of Chanel. The news was confirmed late Wednesday night, with Viard having reportedly left the storied Rue Cambon HQ that afternoon.
The move adds fuel to the ever-revolving fire of creative director musical chairs, which in recent years has come to underscore the poisoned chalice that these all-encompassing, all-powerful yet full-liability roles have become.
“Chanel confirms the departure of Virginie Viard after a rich collaboration of five years as artistic director of fashion collections, during which she was able to renew the codes of the house while respecting the creative heritage of Chanel, and almost 30 years within the house,” the house said in a statement. “A new creative organisation will be announced in due course. Chanel would like to thank Virginie Viard for her remarkable contribution to Chanel’s fashion, creativity and vitality.”

Viard steps down after 30 years with the house, the past five years heading it up, after the death of multi hyphenate fashion machine Karl Lagerfeld, whom she had previously worked in tandem as his right hand. Her ascension then was seen as an underwhelming yet level-headed steer on the future of one of the world’s leading and most renowned luxury brands. Chanel is still owned by the Wertheimers, Alain Wertheimer, 75, Chairman, and his brother Gerard, 74, who heads up the watch division. Their grandfather Pierre helped to fund Coco Chanel when she launched the phenomenally successful No5 perfume in 1924.

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DESIGNER VIRGINIE VIARD WALKS THE RUNWAY DURING THE CHANEL CRUISE 2024-2025 SHOW ON MAY 02, 2024 IN MARSEILLE, FRANCE - GETTY IMAGES

Chanel remains a hugely successful proposition. In recently released accounts its revenue rose 16 per cent to $19.7 billion in 2023. Speaking to industry trade title the Business of Fashion, Phillippe Blondiaux offered that “Since Virginie [Viard] took over from Karl…the Chanel fashion business has been multiplied by 2.2. The Chanel ready-to-wear business has been multiplied by 2.5, and the ready-to-wear business last year of Chanel grew by 23%.” Which seemed to put a lid, at least temporarily, over concerns that Viard’s output wasn’t hitting the creative spot and quality had fallen.

Her collections have been met with a rather muted response from the fashion world, lost from the marketing spin of Lagerfeld, her work might have had a softer, more feminine touch but was often seen as lacking in taste or relevance to modern women. This of course, didn’t put Chanel off hiking up prices of its star products. A classic medium size quilted handbag has shot up 104 per cent since 2019 to around £9,000, a tweed jacket will set you back at least £6,000, as it sought to appeal to the highest spending echelons of the 0.1 per cent AKA the only cohort left with any cash to flash. Insiders have reportedly claimed that bag prices were elevated in order to off-set the poor fashion sales from Viard’s collections.

Viard’s most recent Cruise show, held at the Le Corbusier designed Centre d'art de la Cité radieuse building in Marseille didn’t give great optics. Guests were shown around the 1952 social housing project (let them see austerity!) before watching the show (in the rain) on the roof. The grit was too much for some pampered front row-ers who compared it to sitting on the top of a Westfield car park.

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KARL LAGERFELD AND VIRGINIE VIARD WALK THE RUNWAY DURING THE CHANEL SHOW AS PART OF THE PARIS FASHION WEEK SPRING/SUMMER 2019 ON OCTOBER 2, 2018 IN PARIS - GETTY IMAGES

In fashion, drama is everything. Rumours or perhaps wishful thinking have long abounded around Chanel since Lagerfeld’s death, with insiders desperate for its creative direction to be shaken up. It is not the only house without a creative head currently: Givenchy has yet to announce an appointment since Matthew Williams stepped down at the end of 2023; there is much talk around the stability of British designer Kim Jones’s positions at Dior and Fendi, while at Balenciaga Demna Gvasalia’s role continues to be scrutinised.

Likely contenders to the Chanel crown include Hedi Slimane, currently creative director at Celine, which he is rumoured to have already left. His installation at Chanel would make sense to some. Beloved by Lagerfeld, who went on an extreme diet to be able to wear his Noughties skinny suits, Slimane certainly has the marketing midas touch required to shift acres of double C branded merch. Other contenders include Pierpaolo Piccioli who earlier this year left Valentino (a role now taken up by Alessandro Michele, previously at Gucci) and John Galliano, who has been elevated by Anna Wintour of late. His haute couture collection for Maison Margiela Artisanal was a viral and industry hit in January, while his design fingerprints were all over this year’s Met Gala, with work from his tenure at Givenchy, Dior and Margiela all given prime celebrity real estate (see Zendaya, Kendall Jenner and Kim Kardashian). The Wertheimers are of course Jewish, which may put Galliano out of the picture because of his infamous tirade, but arguably they have form in overlooking anti-semitic prejudice. Their grandfather continued to work with Chanel after she attempted to use Vichy Aryan laws to seize control of the company during WW2.

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FRENCH FASHION DESIGNER FOR CELINE HEDI SLIMANE ACKNOWLEDGES THE AUDIENCE AT THE END OF SPRING-SUMMER 2019 READY-TO-WEAR COLLECTION FASHION SHOW. - AFP VIA GETTY IMAGES.

The real question may be whether they want to replace Coco Chanel or Karl Lagerfeld. Are they hoping to reclaim the wit and viral cut through of their previous design genius, or will they be looking to re-establish the fashion house codes set by its founder who famously broke down stuffy clothing rules and created a modern, easy to wear wardrobe for 20th century women. Phoebe Philo, now helming her own eponymous label, was one name long-touted by industry insiders as a dream appointment; Sarah Burton, who left Alexander McQueen last September and Clare Waight-Keller, who designed the Duchess of Sussex’s wedding dress during her Givenchy tenure, are both without high profile roles. They could seek to poach Nadège Vanhee-Cybulski (one of the only other women helming luxury houses) from Hermès, a move that really would mean handbags at dawn.

Chanel is the jewel in the industry, a role seen as the pinnacle of Parisian fashion. The secretive Wertheimers have always been viewed as conservative owners, unlikely to rock their billionaire boat too much. Recent high profile appointments to luxury houses have been met with mixed reactions to say the least - see Sabato de Sarno at Gucci, Seán McGirr at McQueen and Daniel Lee at Burberry. They won’t want a similar discourse here.

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Wertheimers are of course Jewish, which may put Galliano out of the picture because of his infamous tirade, but arguably they have form in overlooking anti-semitic prejudice.
Yeah, I'm sure THAT'S why Galliano is out of contention....................
 
I would put Hedi on top of the list for this vacancy.

As seen in his previous tenures and currently at Celine, Hedi's approach is holistic and precise. Which Chanel needed and lacked during Virginie's reign. Chanel needs someone who can direct the atelier, campaigns, styling, casting, store merchandising and design in one single stroke. Hedi is unrelentingly capable of it.

What challenge faces him is that Chanel is a cultural force in Fashion and in the mainstream media. Therefore, his creative ethos of casting and self-referential recurrence could pose a liability towards the brand's image and perception.

KL had his bluffs before and he has eventually apologized for some of them, but Hedi is unapologetic,
anomalous, and resentful. Can the Wertheimers turn a blind eye toward Hedi's rancour traits? I'm pretty sure they would,
especially when the revenue kicks in (for Dior Homme and Chanel Haute Parfums) and they have experienced something parallel through KL. However, KL's audience back then was almost conforming and never took it at heart.
We are now in the age of fast information with digital distribution. Where it's filled with heretics who have an obsession with virtue-signalling. Hedi needs sapience when the headlines are sharply poised in his direction.


Sarah Burton is another possible contender. She can harness the full capability of Chanel's vast atelier. Her couture
will be a technical feast. However, she isn't as well-rounded as Hedi and her experience is still somewhat unvaried.
She only had McQueen under her belt and it wasn't that groundbreaking nor commercially effective. She held the fort and
gave the brand a solid foundation. I doubt Chanel needs that right now.

Jeremy Scott being appointed is an interesting option. He's probably the dark horse of these options.
Will Chanel finally appoint its first American designer? He has the creative capacity to build something noteworthy and
voice a clear directive. My only hesitation for him is that Chanel might be too big for him to handle. Chanel is a lifestyle brand as well, while Moschino focuses mainly on fashion.
 
I think that Christelle Kocher from Koche would be an interesting choice. She’s young-ish and used to work for maison Lemairé
 
Edit: Can a Hedi stan pleasee open my eyes, show me what im missing. Show me the collections or specific looks he made that will look amazing in the grand palais. Other than what the internet deems as "its so chanel" when they see Celine. Its obviously what gossip girl has been training them to think when they see Chanel and very far from Karl's fun and grand take on Chanel.
I’m not an hedi stan but the chanel 2005-2007 era parallels with my theoretical vision for Hedi’s Chanel

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I still have my heart set on Olivier Theyskens.

Coming from a completely technical & creative standpoint, he has all the skill & know-how to push Chanel RTW & HC to the next level. Design, draping, flou, textiles, construction, the dramatic evening gowns...anything and everything you'd need for a grand maison of French fashion to remain at the top, and he can excel at all of the above. Also, he's not tied down to any one label currently (not as far as I know), so he's kind of a free agent right now. Of course, the powers that be at Chanel most likely want somebody that has more star-power, but based on design skills and design skills only, I'm casting 1 vote for Olivier.

I'm imaging a Chanel HC collection by Olivier, and I'm actually rather moist.
 
Jeremy Scott being appointed is an interesting option. He's probably the dark horse of these options.
Will Chanel finally appoint its first American designer? He has the creative capacity to build something noteworthy and
voice a clear directive. My only hesitation for him is that Chanel might be too big for him to handle. Chanel is a lifestyle brand as well, while Moschino focuses mainly on fashion.
I really don't think he's even an option. I think he was probably just as surprised by the question but tried to flatter himself lol 'I'll let you guess!'..

It's a no-brainer to me that Hedi will get this. I do think he's a petulant, petty, and resentful crybaby but he's toned down a lot with retirement age approaching and at Celine, he showed the type of submissiveness he couldn't bring himself to find at Saint Laurent and that, in the corporate world, it's just maturity (you can't beat the conglomerate and you need them more than they need you). He's gotten to a point where he has nothing left to say, just play the same old song and being known for that song AND having nothing to say is the type of 'stable' buzz Chanel needs right now.

I always thought he was a younger Karl... trained by the old guard, undeniably skilled, stubborn, pretty misogynistic in a way that is not transgressive, so I think that if he gets Chanel, that is his fourth and final act as a creator. He'll probably spend the next two decades doing the same thing, throwing obscene amounts of money on over-the-top productions, settling for getting the celebrity treatment and using it to be close to underage extra-blond men, and then he'll die at the job.
 
I think that the only person who can handle the beast is Nicholas. But not sure if he is available?
 
I always thought he was a younger Karl... trained by the old guard, undeniably skilled, stubborn, pretty misogynistic in a way that is not transgressive, so I think that if he gets Chanel, that is his fourth and final act as a creator. He'll probably spend the next two decades doing the same thing, throwing obscene amounts of money on over-the-top productions, settling for getting the celebrity treatment and using it to be close to underage extra-blond men, and then he'll die at the job.
Time to buckle in for 20+ humourless years...
 
^ and 5'7 men with dad bods in black shiny bombers with light purple sleeves and a giant, glittered '🌴✨🎸CHANEL🎸✨🌴' in the back, telling you that if only you understood his superior tailoring and craftsmanship and weren't so effin' poor, that you could look just like them too.
 
For me, the idea of Chanel Homme is probably more revolting than the idea of Hedi helming Chanel.
Personally, there is something sacred about a brand that only caters to women being able to reach the status of Chanel. Yes, they might have some products that are sold to men, and HC can be altered to fit a male body. But Chanel is THE brand for women and it should stay this way.
No guys I have seen so far looked good in Chanel. There. of course, might be some, but like, do people really want more Pharell Williams? Of course, there is a demand for that, but would Hedi bring his never-change obsession with the extremely thin and young male body with him, or is he going to do something new?
I really hope that Chanel has some internal young talent incubator program that could provide a completely fresh face for the scene but is extremely well trained by the brand itself.
 

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