Discussion: Who Should Be The Creative Director of Chanel?

[tourbillions]

They were too late but Sarah Burton would have been perfect. just saying it again to annoy her non-beleivers 🤣

 

[Monsieur Cristobal]

I loved Mathieu's Artisanal at Margiela, I like his Bottega, but we are at a point where I think we only have smokescreens, mirages and red herrings to intentionally conceal the chosen one (who, like tourbillions said, is most probably already working in a Chanel collection).

Like all of you, I am [exhausted by/addicted to] this thread 🤣 and that's why I stick to my first intuition, Jeremy Scott (with Hedi as second option).

But I have no clue and, in a way, I like it.

 

[JohannesL]

They were too late but Sarah Burton would have been perfect. just saying it again to annoy her non-beleivers 🤣

I actually think she is better than most of those rumored ones because she knows how to work for a brand a la Marc Bohan at Dior. She was very underrated because she was always living in the shadow of Lee but somewhat managed to make her McQueen work. She has never been the most exciting choice for any brand (even at Givenchy), but she will be definitely a safe bet for Chanel if they want an interim designer.

 

[Caffeine]

At the risk of infuriating some members with idle speculation - and knowing full well it would never happen - how do you all think Tom Ford would fare at Chanel, either in his prime or *gasp*...now?

I would have loved it. But it won't be him. He is out of Leena's budget.

 

[Nimsay]

1. The Marc Fendi collab created the Cargo Baguette which is an instant classic they still are making.

2. Marc made Chanel stop producing the Mademoiselle. Prior to the Stam bag - quilting was exclusively Chanel. So the completely anonymous 2.55 and Mademoiselle actually screamed Chanel at the time... Marc snatched quilting from Chanel and now you see everyone has a quilted option. Chanel had to drop the mademoiselle because it became just another bag really. I think GGucci picked up the vertical mademoiselle quilt...

 

[Lola701]

.2. Marc made Chanel stop producing the Mademoiselle. Prior to the Stam bag - quilting was exclusively Chanel. So the completely anonymous 2.55 and Mademoiselle actually screamed Chanel at the time... Marc snatched quilting from Chanel and now you see everyone has a quilted option. Chanel had to drop the mademoiselle because it became just another bag really. I think GGucci picked up the vertical mademoiselle quilt...

Because the Mademoiselle is one of my favorite Chanel bag ever, I will put the church back in the middle of the village: the bag flopped.
It wasn’t because of Marc at all.
It was a bag that performed well as a seasonal offering but never really made it as a classic. They tried to establish it as a classic when Karl signed Blake Lively as a brand ambassador but it didn’t stick, much like the Coco Cocoon line.

But so many brands build the identity of their bags off Chanel so at this point, any creative director can take the job if it’s the barometer lol.

 

[Nimsay]

i realized we are discussing two bags.

The Mademoiselle w/ Blake was a bowler shaped quilted bag - kinda like the stam. Thats not the one I meant. That is a gorgeous bag though.



harpers bazaar

this is the one i was referring to

 

[jeanclaude]

i realized we are discussing two bags.

The Mademoiselle w/ Blake was a bowler shaped quilted bag - kinda like the stam. Thats not the one I meant. That is a gorgeous bag though.


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harpers bazaar

this is the one i was referring to

That vintage Jumbo bag looks like a brick with chains...

 

[Lola701]

i realized we are discussing two bags.

The Mademoiselle w/ Blake was a bowler shaped quilted bag - kinda like the stam. Thats not the one I meant. That is a gorgeous bag though.


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this is the one i was referring to

Oh! Ok but The Mademoiselle from Blake was a seasonal bag at first from the years Karl turned any shape into a quilted bag with chains and they even made versions as a top handle frame bag.

The second bag is a 80’s/90’s bag right? It wasn’t probably on the catalogue by 2000 because Karl renewed the entire line of bags in the late 90’s/early 2000’s. If you see Chanel bags from the very early 2000’s, they had a specific look.

I agree with @jeanclaude , the Vintage jumbo looks like a weapon! The jumbos from that era had such a « grossier » look!

 

[RaisinBoy]

Virginie was the worst that could have happened to the brand. She was for Chanel was Olivier Lapidus was for Lanvin, Lindsay for Ungaro, Kim Jones for Fendi..etc.

LEAVE LINDSAY ALONE! 😂😂😂

The collection was not that bad.......

 

[tourbillions]

linday for ungaro was ahead of its time.. present it today and it will be a hit

 

[youthinasia]

Nothing Is Happening at Chanel & It's All Anyone Can Talk About

How did Wales Bore-ner get thrown into the mix?

 

[nationalsalt]

The article mentioning Pharrell at LV (and the Lindsay at Ungaro talk) makes me wonder...could you ever see Chanel ever going down the route of a non-traditional creative director?

Someone with "vision", but who isn't a fashion designer per se?

 

[Lola701]

LEAVE LINDSAY ALONE! 😂😂😂

The collection was not that bad.......

But the brand never recovered from that.
It gave them a boost of coverage. I think Carine did an ed for that collection and from there, everything went downhill.

With the eyes of today, everything from the past always seems great. I mean, every other day, one comment could make you think that Frida Giannini was the leading voice of fashion during her tenure at Gucci….

 

[Monsieur Cristobal]

The article mentioning Pharrell at LV (and the Lindsay at Ungaro talk) makes me wonder...could you ever see Chanel ever going down the route of a non-traditional creative director?

Someone with "vision", but who isn't a fashion designer per se?

No.
It is an extremely risky movement, you can lose all credibility (Justin O'Shea at Brioni anyone?)

 

[FashionFanatico]

funny how this became THE most random thread in the history of TFS

 

[vogue22]

Virginie was the worst that could have happened to the brand. She was for Chanel was Olivier Lapidus was for Lanvin, Lindsay for Ungaro, Kim Jones for Fendi..etc.

May I add, she was what Laurent Mercier was to Balmain!

 

[blueorchid]

But the brand never recovered from that.

Don't worry, it will be revived once Law Roach... allegedly revives it. Lindsay will no longer be (as much) as the laughingstock she once was.

@vogue22 at first I read that as Laura Mercier and thought, damn, they let a MAKEUP ARTIST design for Balmain? Desperate times.

 

[alwaysademo]

Talking about the past helps seeing the patterns a bit clearer; it's not a bad thing, it's just making the right analogies would produce better conversations. It's a fashion forum so ADHD is promised, people will have their moment of levity but Lindsay is clear signal for starvation.

Blazy has the same problem with Hedi I think in one aspect and that's range. He hasn't had a chance to shift gears yet. Karl had at least 5-6 different stints before Chanel and they were high notes. More specifically with the design, I always noticed how he at first designed with pop culture refs (at the peak of MTV), then would go straight to the low note for more austere occasions and churned out 19th century clothes pretty literally, and post 2000s it got more futuristic. present-past-future rinse repeat, it's this constant back and forth that made his fashion trajectory exciting. He's a gourmand and shameless sampler of culture, never afraid to take the brand to weird places (the supermarket show was subversive for Chanel les-bi-honest). Coco was completely revolutionary and then went conservative.
They're a house with 2 world icons. They have to follow up with a third to stay the same.
My 2cents is whoever gets to design next for the house aside from sharp taste, high competence and distinguished bg, has to have a very adventurous pov and ease around world matters, history and culture at large. high promiscuity.