Factory Girl

[uberQuirkiness]

according to moviefone.com FactoryGirl is only playing at one theater in LA starting tomorrow. But still I guess it WILL be showing. I'm tempted to go over there tomorrow afternoon...but it's such a random theater.

yeah! something west pavilion? i think i'm going to go watch it today. i wonder how long it is...

 

[XxpinktinksxX]

I hope it's not true about him cutting MK out.

 

[Klove1121]

Oh, I am so afraid of this movie....why did they have to use a story that is made up about Edie....why couldn't they just tell the truth!!????!

 

[lost in kyoto]

Oh please everyone knows this movie will be sh*t. People who actually knew Edie don't even want anything to do with this project. Even Lou Reed called them a bunch of whores. I guess this movie is here to appeal to the omg Edie is glamours cool urban outfitters type crowd.

 

[uberQuirkiness]

i watched the movie today.. it was awesome! yeah..i didnt see mary kate.
i was really impressed with sienna's acting... i watched some clips from ciao manhattan..and i thought sienna really got edie's voice and look down (even though i did have major doubts about costuming and authenticity of certain things via trailer and photos) she doesnt have that weird british accent from that we heard in the trailer..it was a really disturbing/heartbreakinng film. sienna really did her research.
imo she really deserves an oscar.

 

[IcePrincess]

You got to see the movie?!

What is the storyline to this film?

Please tell me it didn't have anything about her comitting suicide over being dumped by "Dylan" or because Andy "replaced" her with Nico. I read something about that in some of the articles talking about Factory Girl movie. That worried me I am hoping that it wasn't in the movie because it's not true at all.

Sorry for all the questions. I have a lot more, you're the only one I know who has seen the movie in full

 

[NYGal30]

well heres some reviews about the movie:

http://www.calendarlive.com/movies/cl-et-factory29dec29,0,2884633.story?coll=cl-movies-features (movie review by a professional)

http://www.oscarwatch.com/2006/12/factory_girl_scrambles_togethe.html (professional reviews compiled together by OscarWatch.com)

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=59889719&blogID=210510395&Mytoken=1E835341-60FB-43C0-B883DE952547BCD360188663 (an alert in my technorati blog alerts for keywords "factory girl" came up with this link. a personal review by a girl who saw it. A great review praising siennas performance. scroll down to her comments to read the review)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0432402/usercomments (personal IMDB reviews written by regular people, one negative, the rest is all positive)

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=59889719&blogID=210510395&Mytoken=1E835341-60FB-43C0-B883DE952547BCD360188663 (I think this is also a professional review)

thats what I got so far.

 

[uberQuirkiness]

You got to see the movie?!

What is the storyline to this film?

Please tell me it didn't have anything about her comitting suicide over being dumped by "Dylan" or because Andy "replaced" her with Nico. I read something about that in some of the articles talking about Factory Girl movie. That worried me I am hoping that it wasn't in the movie because it's not true at all.

Sorry for all the questions. I have a lot more, you're the only one I know who has seen the movie in full

it doesnt show her committing suicide because she was dumped by dylan, really. it did show andy tried to replace her with ingrid superstar..and nico..a bit...but really it just shows that andy abandoned her...and basically that she felt unloved and lonely (also because dylan married someone else...) that is true though isn't it? that edie was heartbroken when she found out that dylan was secretly married? but it doesn't really accuse anyone i think...just that she felt lonely, which is true imo. and they didnt portray andy as heartless either--but as a complex character.
it never shows her committing suicide...they just wrote that she died when she was 28 by a drug overdose in the end.

i thought the film was really thoughtful...not superficial at all. though i would say the movie made edie seem a bit too victimized, it was an excellent film.
if sienna doesn't get an oscar, she should, at least, be more respected as an actress.

 

[babydoll1125]

Did it show a lot of her early life and later life or was it mostly her time with Andy? The thing that bothers me is that the Dylan character is a main one when really he was hardly even in her life. MAYBE they did have a thing and MAYBE she was sad when he got married but i don't think those were even close to being major parts of her life.

 

[kuba01]

i watched the movie today.. it was awesome! yeah..i didnt see mary kate.

NOO!!!!! I thought her look fit would have fit the movie perfectly! Is there a chance that you missed her? Her character's name is "molly spence".

 

[kuba01]

There is a new trailer out, it is incredible! Whoever put the trailer together, is a genius!

http://www.apple.com/trailers/weinstein/factorygirl/

By the way, if anyone is interested, the song played at the end is called

"Life on Mars"

and its by David Bowie

 

[IcePrincess]

Poor Ingrid, the ugly Edie joke, later on I think she grew on the Factory people. Edie asked to be taken out of Chelsea girls and they did replaced film with Nico footage. I don't think those girls were trying to hurt Edie or take her place though.

That's some pretty passive aggressive stuff that happened. Clearly Andy was upset at Edie for wanting to leave. Which in a way.. speaks volumes about how he felt about Edie, I always heard he was robot like and wasn't good with emotions.

I have always been confused about the Edie/Dylan relationship. I think they respected and liked each other but was it a romantic relationship?

This movie almost seems like it was based on something Paul Morrissey said (who also isn't in the movie) Something about Dylan calling her/taking her out and telling her to keep it a secret. He also commented about her getting upset when she found out that he was married and he thought she may of had a crush on Dylan. That was about it.

I agree with you Babydoll It was a brief period of her life and it wasn't very detailed or proven. It's odd that the majority of the movie was based on that.

 

[IcePrincess]

i watched the movie today.. it was awesome! yeah..i didnt see mary kate.
i was really impressed with sienna's acting... i watched some clips from ciao manhattan..and i thought sienna really got edie's voice and look down (even though i did have major doubts about costuming and authenticity of certain things via trailer and photos) she doesnt have that weird british accent from that we heard in the trailer..it was a really disturbing/heartbreakinng film. sienna really did her research.
imo she really deserves an oscar.

That's good Maybe Sienna will inspire some people to find out more about Edie

 

[uberQuirkiness]

babydoll1125...i missed about 10 minutes of the beginning..so if there was some scenes of her early life, i may have missed them.... yeah..it was mostly about edie when she was with the factory..but there were a couple of flashbacks to the past and the future...
actually, dylan (or quinn...) didn't come out that much, which was surprising because they made him seem like such a MAJOR part of her life in the trailer...
kuba01...i might have missed mk if she was in the first 10 minutes...but i didnt see her in the rest of the movie
sorry if i ruined the movie for you guys

 

[swizzlekiss0125]

it's great to hear such fantastic reviews! as a sienna fan, it's nice to hear positive stuff. thanks uberquirkiness! (and how was guy pearce?)

 

[Liberty Bell]

Dylan’s got it wrong about my movie, says Sienna
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6221163.stm
Actress defends new film about Edie Sedgwick after rock icon adds to storm of controversy
David Smith
Sunday December 31, 2006
The Observer
Sienna Miller, the British actress, said last night she utterly rejected claims by Bob Dylan that her new film, based on the life of the Sixties fashion icon Edie Sedgwick, defames him by blaming him for Sedgwick's suicide. Miller also accused film-makers and cinemagoers of dumbing down, complained of a lack of substantial roles for young actresses, and attacked the media's 'unhealthy' interest in her private life, most evident in the coverage of her break-up with the actor Jude Law.
Factory Girl, released in America last week, stars Miller as Sedgwick, the American 'It Girl' and muse of the artist Andy Warhol, a role taken by Guy Pearce. But it is the character of a musician who comes between the two, played by Star Wars actor Hayden Christensen, which has caused controversy as a thinly disguised portrayal of Dylan.
Dylan apparently believes that the film's depiction of his alleged affair with Sedgwick suggests it was their subsequent break-up that led to her death from a barbiturates overdose in 1971 at the age of 28.
Dylan's lawyer, Orin Snyder, wrote to the film's producers: 'You appear to be labouring under the misunderstanding that merely changing the name of a character or making him a purported fictional composite will immunise you from suit. That is not so. Even though Mr Dylan's name is not used, the portrayal remains... defamatory.'
Dylan tried to halt the release of the film, which was rushed out in the US last week in time to qualify for consideration for the Oscars. As the film's producer, Harvey Weinstein, mounted a counter-offensive, Miller interrupted her 25th birthday last week to speak to The Observer from Kenya, where she is on holiday, and said: 'I'm Bob Dylan's biggest fan. I'm mortified that he's pissed off.' She denied that the film implicates Dylan in Sedgwick's death. 'It doesn't do that at all. It blames Warhol more than anyone, because he did abandon her. She was f*cked up, there was a friendship there, she needed help and no one helped her. It's not that Dylan drove her to heroin addiction.'
Sedgwick, a Californian heiress, met Warhol in 1965 and became the most notorious of his Sixties 'superstars' - the phrase he coined for the leading women at his studio, known as the Factory. Dylan has always refused to discuss Sedgwick, who was said to have inspired two of his greatest songs, 'Like A Rolling Stone' and 'Just Like A Woman'.
Miller said that film portrayals should not be taken too literally. 'It very obviously looks and sounds like Dylan, but I think a lot of actors base performances on real life... I've heard from some people that they [Dylan and Sedgwick] did sleep together and from some people that they didn't. From what I heard from her brother, she certainly had a huge crush on him.'
Factory Girl is due to be released in Britain in February. Its US premiere was postponed from its intended date, fuelling rumours that the film had disappointed at test screenings. Miller admitted: 'We've added scenes, not re-shot them; that happens on a lot of films. Harvey Weinstein had ideas about how to make it commercial, because at the end of the day it's hard to make people want to like a drug addict.'
Miller is best known for the films Layer Cake, with Daniel Craig, and Alfie, which starred Law. She spent months researching Factory Girl and said she relished the challenge of Sedgwick's imperfections.
'I think I'm not very good at playing women unless they're flawed. I find that characters that are flawed are far more interesting. But in the market we're catering to as an actress, they don't want to see flawed or imperfect women. I think perfect women are boring, but that's just me.
'Playing somebody pretty and young and [who] has fun all the time and laughs a lot is not very interesting. Someone who was sexually abused and was a heroin addict and was incredible and colourful and vibrant and a Sixties icon, with a tragedy, or something more going on than just looking nice, is an opportunity for an actress I find more appealing.'
She said such roles were scarce in the film industry. 'It's really hard for younger women to get roles of any substance. People most of the time just want to go and see films where there's a girl who looks pretty. The whole industry is going further and further away from really intelligent films.
'The movies that make money are like Saw, that horror film; and then there are fantastic independent films that actually have substance and are intelligent but people don't necessarily want to see. The market caters for those tastes and that's why films that are more intelligent and more interesting as an actress don't come along very often.'
Miller, who hopes to return to the London stage, said she could not understand why photographers pursued her and why she was the subject of endless interest to celebrity magazines. 'I think it's unhealthy. I find it baffling and don't understand it, only because I don't find it interesting at all, I don't care who's going out with whom, I don't read those kind of magazines, so for me it's a little confusing.
'I would rather it wasn't there, but it's not the end of the world; it's stressful, but real stress is being in Iraq. I love my job, so it's fine.'

 

[uberQuirkiness]

it's great to hear such fantastic reviews! as a sienna fan, it's nice to hear positive stuff. thanks uberquirkiness! (and how was guy pearce?)

thanks! guy pearce was excellent. he portrayed warhol as a very complex character, imo.

 

[Liberty Bell]

Uh oh - the disinformation of this 'film' continues...

'MY SISTER EDIE LOVED DYLAN'



January 2, 2007 -- BOB Dylan and his lawyers - upset that the upcoming "Factory Girl" will blame him for Edie Sedgwick's early death by overdose - might think twice before suing the movie's producers for defamation.
The Weinstein Company has evidence - videotaped testimony by her brother, Jonathan Sedgwick - that Edie was madly in love with Dylan, and that she was never the same after she aborted his baby and he broke up with her.
Dylan's lawyer, Orin Snyder, sent a threatening letter earlier this month demanding to see the movie before it is released, or even screened, to determine if it defames his client.
According to the Edie Sedgwick entry in "The Bob Dylan Encyclopedia" by Michael Gray, "There's no evidence - and no real grounds to suppose - that Dylan and Edie had any personal relationship at all, let alone a significant one.
"She comes into the Dylan equation only because people used to believe that she is the girl whispering in Dylan's ear in a photograph on the foldout sleeve of the original 'Blonde on Blonde' double LP and because of a persistent hunch by many people that . . . she was the 'blonde on blonde.' "
But that's not what Jonathan Sedgwick told the producers of the picture, which stars Sienna Miller as Edie, Guy Pearce as Andy Warhol and Hayden Christensen as a folk-singer who performs in Dylan's trademark harmonica brace and fishing cap.
Jonathan says on the tape: "One day, she called me up, and she said, 'I've met someone.' She didn't tell me who it was, but, 'He's a folk singer. He's fabulously talented, and he's full of conviction' . . . Later on, Edie explained to me it was Bob Dylan.
"She told me she was totally in love with him . . . she also explained . . . she lost a child which she claims was Bob Dylan's child. She had gotten into an insane asylum, and she was so wacked out on drugs that they aborted her because the child would've been just strung out . . . she said that was the saddest moment of her life." Jonathan said, "Her biggest joy was with Bob Dylan, and her saddest time was with Bob Dylan, losing the child. And Edie was changed by that experience, very much so."

Please know that Jonathan speaks for himself only, not the Sedgwick family! and this is a heap of delusion and absolutely atrocious! Edie's pregnancy occured LONG before she every appeared on the Factory scene and obviously well before she crossed paths with Dylan!

 

[mellowdrama]

^I shudder to think what a hypothetical Zimmerman/Sedgwick child would've unleashed upon the world. I picture a well-cheekboned, blue-eyed charismatic-though-grumpy leader of a Christian drug-cult.

Can't wait to not see the movie!

 

[uberQuirkiness]

^haha