Hedi Slimane - Designer

Being Gucci’s fixer sounds like punishment, I can’t believe people want this for poor Hedi.
I think at this point, let’s put him everywhere so we have a bunch of clone brands.
I guess 2 clone brands is not enough.

How boring. Thank god he retired. It leaves me some hope for fashion if the only option and dream is Hedi cloning his work from brands to brands just because he is a good creative director.

I would rather endure attending a Alexis Mabille show than that.
 
I was responding to the ideas a poster put forth about Hedi's childhood trauma. There's something kind of ironic about how the fashion industry claims to celebrate creative vision but can't seem to just let Hedi be Hedi without turning it into a psychological case study...
I don't know if this is in reference to my contributions to that conversation, but either way:
I'm the only one who's called Hedi "emo" here in recent memory, and it's meant entirely in good humor/affectionately when I do. To my eye Hedi wears his heart on his sleeve artistically speaking, and that's a significant part of the appeal to me. Sometimes in a very blunt and uncensored way. That's a compliment. Art that makes you feel, empathize, relate, is effective art. To see something familiar in an artwork by someone who has lived a very different life is a sign of effective art. I also think Hedi is more self aware than he gets credit for, and he does this intentionally/knowingly.

That said, I don't necessarily think this forum (or any public place) is the place to speculate about Hedi's private life, nor do I think this is necessarily the place to speculate about why some observers see such heavy things in Hedi's work and others don't.

Even phrasing my thoughts in this post in what I hope is a respectful and appropriate way has taken more time and thought than I want to dedicate to a casual conversation about fashion most days. Sometimes it's easier to just acknowledge that aspect of his work (or that avenue of analysis, if you prefer) in passing with a dumb humourous phrase and then get down to more light-hearted conversation.

Hedi engaged with the emo subculture a fair bit so that term comes to mind readily.
 
I think KERING has more chance getting back the Gucci and Balenciaga license before getting YSL.

Pinault wasn’t clever because YSL beauté was a fully functional operation when it was sold.

And yes, Hedi’s exit from KERING ended with a legal action (like Nicolas). So he isn’t coming back.
Wait what Balenciaga license?
 
@vogue22 Pretty sure Coty owns the licence for Balenciaga fragrance and beauty.
Oh but they haven't released fragrances in more than a decade and nothing in the cosmetic department, how come?
I went for some infos.
KERING regain control of Balenciaga and Alexander McQueen and the next fragrances will be developed in house.
The coty license for Gucci will end in 2028.
 
I went for some infos.
KERING regain control of Balenciaga and Alexander McQueen and the next fragrances will be developed in house.
The coty license for Gucci will end in 2028.
Yes Kering Beauty,
That's the reason they gave when they bought Creed for 300 m€.
Kering Beauté
The Bottega Veneta perfumes are the first in-house release.
I don't see Hedi going back to Kering at all, the break down was very messy.
 
Pretty sure Coty owns the licence for Balenciaga fragrance and beauty.
looks like that Kering got the licenses for Balenciaga, Alexander McQueen and Bottega Veneta back from Coty already

COTY SHRUGS OFF LOST LICENSES AS KERING SETS UP OWN BEAUTY DIVISION
KEVIN ROZARIO
PUBLISHED FEBRUARY 11, 2023

Luxury giant Kering Group has hired former Estée Lauder Companies senior executive Raffaella Cornaggia in a new—and critical—role as CEO of Kering Beauté. The move accelerates expansion into a new sector for the French fashion-to-jewelry conglomerate that might have given Kering’s current beauty licensing partners, like Coty, some restless nights. Turns out the US beauty house is sleeping soundly.

Those labels are some of the best-known in fashion including Alexander McQueen, Balenciaga, Gucci, and Saint Laurent, plus jewelry houses Boucheron, Pomellato, DoDo and Qeelin. Several are already powerhouse beauty brands, developed through licensing agreements.

L’Oréal’s position seems safe. It bought YSL Beauté from PPR (now called Kering) after agreeing a licensing deal in April 2008 “for a very, very long time” according to a L’Oréal spokesperson. Coty is on shakier ground as it has more to lose. It holds the license for Gucci—one of its pillar brands—and did for Alexander McQueen, Balenciaga and Bottega Veneta as well.

In a statement on Friday February 3, Kering said that, in Cornaggia’s new role, she would help develop beauty expertise for Alexander McQueen, Balenciaga, Bottega Veneta, Pomellato, and Qeelin, supported by a team of seasoned professionals. “The beauty category is a natural extension of the universe of these brands,” said Kering.

While Gucci was not mentioned in the Kering statement, Coty confirmed to BeautyMatter that it had relinquished the other three, describing them as “smaller growth brands with a more limited scale and footprint”, but did not say when the terminations occurred. The brands have already been removed from Coty’s website.

As niche labels, Alexander McQueen, Balenciaga and Bottega Veneta may not have delivered the huge volumes that Gucci does for the New York-listed company.
More significant could be that, in Kering’s hands, the beauty business of these brands could become significant new rivals in the fragrance or color cosmetics sectors, Balenciaga in particular.
Beauty Matter
 

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