Margiela's new strategy/ *NYC store premiere

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margiela's receptionist trailer


PARIS — The atmosphere remains decidedly edgy: The receptionist sits in a camper trailer, the catsup and mustard bottles in the cafeteria are painted over in white and the designer still won’t talk to the press.

But at the new Martin Margiela headquarters here, the iconoclastic Belgian designer is getting down to business.

Margiela’s majority owner, Diesel entrepreneur Renzo Rosso, flew in from Italy earlier this week to tour the quirky digs and chat about the house’s future. He said Margiela plans to double sales to 60 million euros, or $80 million at current exchange rates, in three years by improving production and sales staffs, opening more stores, and adding more lines, including accessories.

“I have an incredible energy for [the house] right now,” enthused Rosso, who bought his stake in Margiela’s business two years ago. “The company is ready to attack the market.”

He continued, “In the two years that we’ve spent together, we’ve cleared the situation. The company wasn’t in such good shape. It was run like a family. Now it’s organized, and we’re building on that new faith.” :rolleyes:

Rosso said improvements at Margiela included the consolidation of logistics and production in Italy, the recruiting of a team of nine designers to assist Margiela, and new sales and marketing people. Giovanni Pungetti, formerly head of Diesel France, has been appointed president of the house.

“We’re starting to analyze the brand,” Rosso said. “We now can measure selling and sell-out, and there is a real production system. We have early deliveries. I feel it’s a new start. We’ve come to know each other very well. What I didn’t want to do is destroy the heart, the passion of the house. But I wanted to provide the tools to support the business. Now we have professional people.”

Rosso hinted at several projects in the pipes to drive sales, including the introduction of a full leather goods and shoe line. He said a shop should open in New York in 2005, with another to follow in Milan in 2006.

There are plans to move the Paris flagship, currently near the Palais Royale, to a larger location. And growth in Asian countries such as South Korea and China is being pursued. Margiela opened a London shop last April, and operates two stores in Tokyo and one in Osaka.

“We are open to doing a perfume and sunglasses,” said Rosso, adding that next year will be a busy one for the house.

Already since Rosso acquired the brand, Margiela has introduced upscale, classic lines for men and women, labeled 14 and 4, respectively, drawing on the designer’s experience overseeing women’s wear at luxury firm Hermès.

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For spring, the so-called basic line, known as 6, is being rebranded MM6. It will now include a wider variety of looks and prices. All of Margiela’s lines are known by number, from 0 to 23. Meanwhile, the so-called artisanal collection will become more exclusive and couture-like.

“The lines are getting younger,” said Rosso. “We’ve increased 4 and 14 a lot. But for me, Margiela is really one line. For me, Margiela is a lifestyle brand.”
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Rosso was quick to dispel rumors that Margiela will design a line for his Diesel jeans brand. “I have Diesel for that,” he said. “I want Martin Margiela to do his thing.”

Rosso said the house will not break with its insider identity by advertising, but that the company will communicate more aggressively.

“We want to see the clothes on more VIPs. It’s new, but :blink: we’ll even do special clothing for VIPs.”

The new headquarters underscore Rosso’s ambitions for the 21-year-old house. It occupies a 30,000-square-foot former industrial design school near the Place de la Republique on the Right Bank. Almost everything has been painted white, in keeping with Margiela’s trademark style. The chandeliers have been wrapped in gauze, and employees go about their duties wearing white laboratory smocks.

Rosso said this distinctive approach is Margiela’s strength. “It’s very fresh and modern,” he said. “It’s about being unique, and it appeals to people with strong personalities who don’t want to follow the crowd.”

He said he has learned from Margiela’s approach to marketing and applied some of the tactics used at Diesel. “It’s a lesson in staying select and being exclusive,” he said.
extracts from a wwd article of today
 
Oh dear oh dear. Lena, thanks for posting, but I think this is bad news. I used to like Margiela, but basically don't now, for a number of reasons (I'm talking about menswear mainly). First and foremost there is a huge gap, it seems to me, between the "conceptualism" of the stores and the styling etc and the actual product, which is very basic, very humdrum. I'm not particularly convinced of its quality either. And while you can't blame Rosso for wanting to do what he wants with his investment, in essence he's talking about an entirely different brand now to the brand that people have, up till a few years ago anyway, taken as being Maison Margiela. It seems to me that he simply wants to Gucci it up, and MM is not about that. The "house" as he calls it simply won't be able to survive that kind of revamp and not fundamentally change. I think there are better avant gard designers around now anyway, and unless MM gets out I'm afraid his talent will be lost to the world.
 
I had no idea that Martin Margiela was owned by Diesel :unsure:
Does Renzo Rosso own any other brands besides those?

Anyway, I don't like talents tamed down like this, making the label another Diesel pretty much. And what's with the celebrity craze?

Thanks for posting Lena!
 
this could go either way...
i had a personal experience with an investor coming into a small high end 'couture-style' studio and trying to run it like a business when it had always been run like a family...the influx of cash is a blessing of course...but what was the death of the designer i speak of...was that the investor did not listen to the designer...

as long as there is good communication and the designer is really allowed to have creative control...it could be a beautiful thing for everyone...but if rosso tries to dictate...it will be a death sentence...

he says he's listening...but we can only trust what he says...because margiela does not speak...i'd love to know what the original people working at the house are feeling and thinking...i wonder how many of them are still there since the buyout...

and adding 8 designers?!?!...woah...maybe my friend should apply for a job there...?...
 
ps thanks for the post lena...i LOVE the trailer...
 
Thanks Lena for posting:-)

Hmm I think it is a clever move to distinguish "popular lines" from the artisanal line. There are a lot of people, esp. here in "further countries":-) who would love to have designs from MM. Maybe not that very conceptual things, but basic, good designs with good quality but still quiet, and edgy.

Doing the house more "corporated" could make it more competive, I guess. But the most important thing imo is to remember that the house's name is Maison Margiela, not Renzo Rosso:-) 60 mln euro is not that very very big:-) Comme sells around 100 mln as well:-) The house could be bigger and more visible, but it could as well remain free and strong.


We will see how they launch the new perfume. Will it be in Comme's style (with the Original EdP) or V&R's :-)

Let's hope that things will be fine:-)
 
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Wasn't there a time when a designer could begin small and stay small? Why is everyone forced to Gucci-fy, with perfume, accessories, campaigns, it-models, etc.? Of course I know the answer, but I feel like there are fewer and fewer independent voices that can make it on their own. It's really quite sad.

As for Margiela, I agree with Johnny. There is so much rhetoric, and concepts, and ideas associated with the Margiela design process that I almost always feel let down when I pick up one of his garments in the stores. And I'm afraid that by turning MMM into a corporation, those final little personal touches are going to be swept away. Like Softgrey, I hope that Renzo Rosso will continue to act with Margiela's interests in mind.
 
I think the linehas goten much much more comercial sens Diesel purchased it.

I was very surprised to see margiela selling in Bloomingdales, seems so opposite.

I don't like that they are trying to push Margiela into so much commercialism, i eman perfume and sunglasses seems so un-margiela
 
I think it is exciting to build margiela into a lifestyle brand...but then it is also like "oh geez I hope they don't screw up the actual clothes". I hope they drop the prices on some of his more basic lines. I've always felt marigiela was overpriced.
 
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metal-on-metal said:
^^ Woah, Bloomingdales carries Margiela? Since when? :blink:
I was in Atlanta and they had men's margiela, only 2 racks.. very odd,the pricing was wierd though, they had the aids t shirt for 125.
 
to make a long story short, for me the MMM is not the MMM anymore, its just a new Diesel concept.. the fact that mr Diesel comments on the Margiela's company being like a 'family' in such an unfavorable way, says it all..
and the new huge headquarters are just taking away the last memories of an exceptionally revolutionary 'art/fashion' laboratory..

of course i know -fisrt hand- how hard is to keep a freestanding company, but backers are always bitting back the hard way.. the beauty of maison martin margiela was the small prosuction, the handmade effects, the cosyness.. the revolutionary marketing, the unique.. turning the company to something else, seems to be damaging the reputation and the standards of the collections -since the diesel take over the lines have been much less intersting than before...

i'm not an elitist but the whole story, makes me plain sad. :(
 
I knew when Diesel had first acquired MMM,my nightmare would eventually come true. And it has,apparently. It does indeed make one sad that this is the route they're going. MMM was such a special establishment,and as you said,the family feel of it all it was what I personally loved about it. Somehow I feel that perhaps this IS beginning to sound like dictatorship from Russo....the whole market crap is NOT something we think of when talking of MMM. And its even more disconcerning knowing they're taking the very thing we all fell in love with---that the special-ness of his work is no longer there anymore.
 
Lena said:
to make a long story short, for me the MMM is not the MMM anymore, its just a new Diesel concept.. the fact that mr Diesel comments on the Margiela's company being like a 'family' in such an unfavorable way, says it all..
and the new huge headquarters are just taking away the last memories of an exceptionally revolutionary 'art/fashion' laboratory..
One could perhaps also argue that changes are needed for MMM to continue being revolutionary or in this case actually to get back to being revolutionary after the recent slump.

Whether it will turn out as we all hope is of course an open question, but let’s not forget that Renzo himself has a history of being quite innovative, so I believe it’s too early to condemn the project entirely.

On the other hand I can easily understand why many are quite skeptical…
 
It's probably a bad sign that they're going to be putting it on the "VIPs". What celebrities do you know that wear anything revolutionary? People like it when celebrities wear tight dresses and well-fitted suits. Nobody is going to show up at the Oscars in Margiela split-toe boots.

Who are they going to try to dress?
 
Maybe the V.I.P. means that MM will allow whosoever he chooses to be in his most exclusive stuff?? I don't understand it really.
 
seraphelle said:
It's probably a bad sign that they're going to be putting it on the "VIPs". What celebrities do you know that wear anything revolutionary? People like it when celebrities wear tight dresses and well-fitted suits. Nobody is going to show up at the Oscars in Margiela split-toe boots.

Who are they going to try to dress?
i think the new marketting plan includes mass publicity, dressing vips>quirky celebrities including -why not?- oscars of other likewise :sick: events, playing the whole commercial game , fuelling my worries on the alien direction mr diesel has on paper for MMM.. hence me being so negative about the whole thing...:ninja:

word is that martin magriela doesnt even supervise the lines anymore.. which explains a lot :ninja: :ninja: :ninja:
 

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