Maria Grazia Chiuri - Designer, Creative Director of Christian Dior

[Creative]

I literally can’t wait till she gets out and the worst era (fashion wise) at Dior is over.

 

[Creative]

She is suing LVMH because they have reportedly set JWA with his own DIOR Studio with out announcing her departure, which is a breach of her contract.

But he can be just designing menswear and once she’s out, he does everything, no? I guess that’s what LVMH will say, which makes total sense.

 

[JohannesL]

To be fair, as much as we didn't like her work, LVMH has been doing her dirty once she stopped making money for them. It was the same people who championed her female gaze and milk her corporate feminism.

 

[Lola701]

She is suing LVMH because they have reportedly set JWA with his own DIOR Studio with out announcing her departure, which is a breach of her contract.

It’s interesting because how does it impact her contract?
Is there a clause in her contract that forbid LVMH to employ another designer?
Does her lawsuit impact her non-compete then?

 

[Lola701]

To be fair, as much as we didn't like her work, LVMH has been doing her dirty once she stopped making money for them. It was the same people who championed her female gaze and milk her corporate feminism.

I don’t think the issue is about sales if there’s a disagreement between the parties.

 

[JohannesL]

I don’t think the issue is about sales if there’s a disagreement between the parties.

We have seen similar situation in Virginie but kudos for MGC fighting back.

 

[Kite]

She is disputing the overlap. Her contract has not been terminated and she is still in contract with Dior however they have overstepped and apparently set him up with a full working studio for all collections.

 

[LadyJunon]

To be fair, as much as we didn't like her work, LVMH has been doing her dirty once she stopped making money for them.

The world is healing...

 

[Lola701]

We have seen similar situation in Virginie but kudos for MGC fighting back.

Im convinced its a management issue. Delphine took over so things may have changed in terms of management and clearly she hired her favorite. If the news of JWA being there has been shared to that extend all over Paris, is that she was ready to move on a long time ago.

I don’t have that many infos regarding Virginie but I have been told that she was Chanel employee so her contract was different from MGC. In a way she has a kind of different protection regarding French laws.

She is disputing the overlap. Her contract has not been terminated and she is still in contract with Dior however they have overstepped and apparently set him up with a full working studio for all collections.

I totally understand but I think it will be very difficult to prove a prejudice as they haven’t publically announced her departure. Because both parties will fulfill their contracts at the end of the day. That’s why I’m a bit confused.

Because even she goes saying « the fact that they signed a contract with another designer overlapping mine, created a nuisance for my work », it will be very difficult for it to hold it in court if her work conditions haven’t been changed and if she still can fulfill her contract. If her ressources weren’t altered because of the move by LVMH, I wonder how she is going to win…
But who knows

 

[Salvatore]

She is disputing the overlap. Her contract has not been terminated and she is still in contract with Dior however they have overstepped and apparently set him up with a full working studio for all collections.

She is a bitter piece of work if this is true. I get she's in her feelings and all, but I still do not see how JWA starting to work oversteps her unless they packed her things up to move him in and what he's designing is taking from her team working on her final collection while she's still there. If it's just him in a studio with a few of his team that's coming in, I see no problem. I am so ready for her era in Dior's history to be over.

 

[Simera]

Sorry but she makes boring collections, always the same 3/4 colors and last collection with the j’dore dior t shirts was just pure laziness. It’s time for her to go. Get over yourself!

 

[Creative]

To be fair, as much as we didn't like her work, LVMH has been doing her dirty once she stopped making money for them. It was the same people who championed her female gaze and milk her corporate feminism.

Why are they doing her dirty? They are letting her contract finish, will let her show the world another monstrosity of a collection and on top of that she’s getting paid millions for it.

Also, you can trust me, Dior keeps selling and making a lot of money. It’s more that after 10 years of showing the same collection and the same things with so little creativity, the brand fatigue is real and needs a change.

It’s time to move from trying to sell fashion with a fake, contradictory, hypocritical slogan to sell real high fashion with the vision of the only real creative director left.

 

[JohannesL]

If they are so desperately in need of kicking her out and installing a new CD before her contract expired, they should have paid her out like Kering with SdS. I would say it is quite humiliating for any designer in similar position let alone for a successful designer like her. We all know she is a bad designer, but it doesn't mean that she is disposable. If Dior can afford to set up new studio and hire new people（other than moving the atelier）for the new CD, they can just terminate her contract in advance（but possiblely unwilling to pay her out ）.

 

[Lola701]

If they are so desperately in need of kicking her out and installing a new CD before her contract expired, they should have paid her out like Kering with SdS. I would say it is quite humiliating for any designer in similar position let alone for a successful designer like her. We all know she is a bad designer, but it doesn't mean that she is disposable. If Dior can afford to set up new studio and hire new people（other than moving the atelier）for the new CD, they can just terminate her contract in advance（but possiblely unwilling to pay her out ）.

You have to remember one thing.
We are speaking on a forum, fashion people from the fashion industry are speaking but this is a microcosm. So in the public eye, there’s nothing humiliating about it.
She isn’t fired. Her contract will end and another tenure will start.

So her exit is quite clean. She wasn’t fired in between 2 shows like Sabato. She wasn’t forced to leave.

All these infos about JWA being at Dior for a month now are not mainstream public knowledge. So I don’t get the disposable thing at all…Even more considering that none of her shows have been cancelled. They are literally going to hold an extravaganza show in Rome, fly journalists and clients around for a collection that will be produced in limited quantities as they are going to push JWA’s products ASAP.

If this is a dirty exit for you, I hope more employees and designers gets that kind of dirty.

 

[Salvatore]

If they are so desperately in need of kicking her out and installing a new CD before her contract expired, they should have paid her out like Kering with SdS. I would say it is quite humiliating for any designer in similar position let alone for a successful designer like her. We all know she is a bad designer, but it doesn't mean that she is disposable. If Dior can afford to set up new studio and hire new people（other than moving the atelier）for the new CD, they can just terminate her contract in advance（but possiblely unwilling to pay her out ）.

But that's the thing, she was not terminated with immediate effect or asked to leave immediately just as @Lola701 said. Her contract is up and it won't be renewed, but she is being allowed two shows, one in Rome which is surely for her ego. I cannot remember any designer being allowed such a « victory lap » at any house that they didn't create. She did do commercially well at Dior and they are honouring that, but Dior is a giant business and precious child of the Arnaults so they will do what is necessary to keep it running. It's not personal.

Goodluck to her booking that stage she speaks of.

 

[Lola701]

If the lawsuit is real, going to the office everyday, working with the teams while having an ongoing lawsuit is a nasty work lol.

Does that mean that she is not communicating with anybody at Dior?
Because in the hierarchy of the company and the group, all the people she is supposed to communicate with won’t be on her side with that lawsuit. And also, what kind of reparation would she expect from this. Because she ends her contract, she will receive her money and the money of her non competition so what’s the point of spending extra money for a new lawsuit?

 

[Creative]

If they are so desperately in need of kicking her out and installing a new CD before her contract expired, they should have paid her out like Kering with SdS. I would say it is quite humiliating for any designer in similar position let alone for a successful designer like her. We all know she is a bad designer, but it doesn't mean that she is disposable. If Dior can afford to set up new studio and hire new people（other than moving the atelier）for the new CD, they can just terminate her contract in advance（but possiblely unwilling to pay her out ）.

Are you for real? Who on Earth would like to be dismissed? Imagine headlines saying: Dior terminates its contract with MGC inmediatly That's bad. No farewell, no final show, no nothing.

Having your contract finished is a fact of life. You work for somebody, you sign a contract for X years and once it's over, it's over. Of course they will move on if what you have to offer is not relevant for them anymore. I mean, it's a job.

 

[JohannesL]

I am unfamiliar with the corporate culture in European fashion houses, but in our culture there is more decent way of having somesone take over the position after the employee has left.

 

[Creative]

I am unfamiliar with the corporate culture in European fashion houses, but in our culture there is more decent way of having somesone take over the position after the employee has left.

Which one is it, out of curiosity?

 

[carla56]

What a bizarre and out of touch advertisement for the public.

It seems like an internal message mode. I guess they were trying to do humor? Or not?

Well I must admit that I watched it entirely just because I loved the humor (and because I find Pike's voice hypnotizing)... She repeated D JOURNEY BAG so many times with that sensual voice that I was quite convinced to buy this disgusting bag