Matthieu Blazy - Designer, Creative Director of Bottega Veneta

[Xone]

It’s not him.

Meaning?…

 

[helmutnotdead]

Meaning?…

meaning it’s not him.

 

[helmutnotdead]

also I LOVE I LOVE that Raf must be hysterical about Pieter and Matthieu being top contenders for Chanel and more relevant than him in the fashion conversation right now

 

[Frederic01]

also I LOVE I LOVE that Raf must be hysterical about Pieter and Matthieu being top contenders for Chanel and more relevant than him in the fashion conversation right now

I don't think Pieter or Matthieu will ever usurp Raf in terms of fashion credentials due to Raf's menswear past (and how important those collections were in terms of changing the fashion landscape), his collaborations with Adidas, and of course his Dior tenure.

Pieter and Matthieu are great designers, but not groundbreaking or able to influence in the way that Raf did. Like it or not, Raf will always be an important name in fashion. Just like Phoebe Philo. You might not like Raf's aesthetic but to call him "less relevant" because he is not being considered for the Chanel position is a pretty strange, no?

 

[yslforever]

Dior by Hedi MIGHT get me to forgive Bernie.

Bernie is basically only socially acceptable because of Hedi and NG. Without them he is a unscrupulous financier who thinks having bags made by slaves is smart management.

Without HS and NG Bernie has no aspirations of class. No legitimacy and no mandate.

Bernie isn't interested in fashion anymore: when he goes to Italy it's to buy top location real estate for his Cheval Blanc hotels in Venezia, Como and Firenze, but not anything fashion-related.

 

[vogue22]

Y'all calling him Bernie like he's a good old friend of yours lmaoo.

 

[NYLA22]

also I LOVE I LOVE that Raf must be hysterical about Pieter and Matthieu being top contenders for Chanel and more relevant than him in the fashion conversation right now

As a relative fashion outsider (but who loves to learn about designers and the industry) could you explain why Raf is so disliked? He seemed to be the height of "coolness" over a decade ago, or maybe before Calvin Klein, and now I only read negative things about him. Is it that he has simply lost his touch? Or that people feel he never was that talented in the first place? How do people feel about his time at Dior? I am just curious. Thanks!

 

[yslforever]

Bernie isn't interested in fashion anymore: when he goes to Italy it's to buy top location real estate for his Cheval Blanc hotels in Venezia, Como and Firenze, but not anything fashion-related.

And Bernie just renegated on Venezia; someelse bought the Bauer hôtel he visited.

 

[JohannesL]

Y'all calling him Bernie like he's a good old friend of yours lmaoo.

LOL, I have to recall what you all were talking about before realizing that there is no way it could be Bernie Sanders!

 

[Grets]

As a relative fashion outsider (but who loves to learn about designers and the industry) could you explain why Raf is so disliked? He seemed to be the height of "coolness" over a decade ago, or maybe before Calvin Klein, and now I only read negative things about him. Is it that he has simply lost his touch? Or that people feel he never was that talented in the first place? How do people feel about his time at Dior? I am just curious. Thanks!

I still see a lot of people like his work for but it's overly intellectual and sometimes lacks heart and soul. His high-concept Americana failed to appeal to a broader consumer base. Also was a commercial disaster. The modern minimalism he found success with at Jil Sander didn't translate as well at Dior. Sure some insiders loved it, but it wasn't the same Dior that many fell in love with during the Galliano years. Sure Prada is doing well for now, that triangle definitely helps. But he doesn't have as distinct of a voice against Miuccia who is the heart and soul of the brand.

 

[alwaysademo]

@NYLA22 if Blazy gets appointed surely Raf's career will be re-seen in a major way I bet. Happened w/ Phoebe and Nicolas as well, people keep tabs on your circle as much as they do you, this "school of.." notion etc. I loved his Jil and first 4 Dior shows, they still look great today.

 

[Lola701]

As a relative fashion outsider (but who loves to learn about designers and the industry) could you explain why Raf is so disliked? He seemed to be the height of "coolness" over a decade ago, or maybe before Calvin Klein, and now I only read negative things about him. Is it that he has simply lost his touch? Or that people feel he never was that talented in the first place? How do people feel about his time at Dior? I am just curious. Thanks!

Maybe because after his glorious days at his own brand and a fabulous tenure at Jil Sander, it became quite apparent that he owed those success to his number 2.
And I think what killed him was believing his own hype, thinking that being name dropped by rappers and cheered by the young generation was a valid reason to pander to them. And instead of elevation, he went really low…
That youth moved on to Demna.

With Raf, there’s the feeling of a designer self absorbed by his intellectualism and his taste.

RAF is with Hedi, my biggest disappointment in fashion. I loved his JS but that has more to do with Patrick Van Ommeslaeghe. I liked some of his Dior and CK even if he was a miscast in both. Now, on his own, we are seeing what is happening at Prada….

I love Blazy’s work even if I think his work suffers from the same things as RAF’s as it is so focused on design and ideas and not so much on women or attitude. And it’s something that changes the approach to design. It’s something Phoebe and Daniel, who he worked with, have.