Most Overpriced Designer?

[velvetandsilk]

WTF Sometimes I feel we come back to 80s when fashion house sold too much licence, but back then they cared about good quality runway clothes.

dior.com

 

[YohjiAddict]

^It'll come back to bite them in the a**, the name Dior is alright for very fine porcelain, Disneyland souvenir cups is reaching too low.

 

[Frederic01]

WTF Sometimes I feel we come back to 80s when fashion house sold too much licence, but back then they cared about good quality runway clothes.
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The name "Dior" means nothing anymore, it has been completely ruined by the people that work in merchandising and marketing, who have completely cheapened the brand image for the sake of profit. The arrival of Kim Jones and the marketing gimmicks that followed really destroyed the prestige of Dior irreversibly. It's so hype-beast-y and attention grabbing, vacuous and cringe-y. The arrival of Kim Jones, his infinite "collabs", and the people that he surrounds himself with, really started their downfall. Add to that all the incredibly tacky capsule collections (Dioriviera, Dioramour, etc etc) and the reliance on the vulgar Dior oblique pattern, and voila!

Dior will never be able to compete with Chanel in terms of prestige, let's be honest. It is what they are striving for, but it is something they will never achieve.

 

[Lola701]

WTF Sometimes I feel we come back to 80s when fashion house sold too much licence, but back then they cared about good quality runway clothes.
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The irony is that I sometimes find the Dior Maison line interesting. I mean those products are well made in Limoges and they are keeping artisans busy but adapting MGC’s work to homewear is so tacky. I would love to meet those people who buys those obvious products!

 

[Fulton St Critique]

I remember when I was at Dover Street Market New York a couple of years ago and I came across a set of Gucci furniture. I kind of laughed to myself a little. The wooden chairs resembled that of something you would find at an antique store in the countryside. If my memory serves me correct each chair was going for around $3,000. This idea of these houses transforming into “lifestyle” brands has never really sat right with me for some reason. It is kind of corny if you really think about it.

Here, let me paint you a picture, “You are sitting down in your Parisian apartment, sipping tea out of an Dior cup, eating a croissant on a Dior plate, scrolling through Instagram on your iPhone with a Dior case, wearing a Dior tracksuit, have the Dior saddle bag across your chest, and snap a selfie of yourself with Dior sunglasses and logo-clad bucket hat”. Sh*t, I think I just gave Bryan Boy a new idea for an Instagram post!

 

[Phuel]

^^^ 20 some odd years ago when Gucci reigned by the highest standards that was Tom, I remember some gorgeous lounges/chairs that seems like such a natural progression/extension of his design sensibility. And same with Armani as well. It all seems more of an exclusive and quiet addition that enhanced their rarified world rather than pollute it; like an Hermes saddle seems so natural for that customer who owned horses. It’s so inexcusably loud, tacky and camp nowadays that only a gay cartoon like Bryanboy would covet.

 

[JohannesL]

I wonder if top tier luxury fashion brand will ever lose their prestige once developing into lifestyle brands. After all I still consider them holding the highest standard of clothing.

 

[Lola701]

I wonder if top tier luxury fashion brand will ever lose their prestige once developing into lifestyle brands. After all I still consider them holding the highest standard of clothing.

No…Simply because those products are most of time exclusives to boutiques (or a small selection in e-shops) and the majority of customers doesn’t seem to have the courage to just go and buy plates from Dior or Hermès. And lifestyle products are generally products that are associated with a certain lifestyle…

When you buy a Dior Book tote that you wear with your Dior bucket hat, there’s a chance that you want people to know that you are wearing Dior.

If you buy a whole Dior Service set, I think your house might be the showstopper because clearly you needs to allow to that intimacy in order to showcase your designers goods.

Here, let me paint you a picture, “You are sitting down in your Parisian apartment, sipping tea out of an Dior cup, eating a croissant on a Dior plate, scrolling through Instagram on your iPhone with a Dior case, wearing a Dior tracksuit, have the Dior saddle bag across your chest, and snap a selfie of yourself with Dior sunglasses and logo-clad bucket hat”. Sh*t, I think I just gave Bryan Boy a new idea for an Instagram post!

I think you might have described Cordelia de Castellane’s life (even if she is too classy to wear logo pieces and I’ve never seen her with logos actually). She is the CD of Dior Maison…And you know, the icing on the cake is that she is also the CD of Dior Baby…

Now because of you, I wonder what BB’s home look like.

 

[fashionista-ta]

The irony is that I sometimes find the Dior Maison line interesting. I mean those products are well made in Limoges and they are keeping artisans busy but adapting MGC’s work to homewear is so tacky. I would love to meet those people who buys those obvious products!

No, you would not

Bottega Veneta used to have a home line (not sure about present state) that was a very nice, obviously unbranded, extension of their leather goods--intrecciato furniture and the like. Hermes IMO also has interesting home products. I like the things they make from their leather scraps.

 

[Lola701]

No, you would not

Bottega Veneta used to have a home line (not sure about present state) that was a very nice, obviously unbranded, extension of their leather goods--intrecciato furniture and the like. Hermes IMO also has interesting home products. I like the things they make from their leather scraps.

Ahahaha!
It’s like to think that there are people sleeping in Versace sheets. I love Gianni, o loved the campaigns by Avedon but tbh, it would be a nightmare to sleep in those sheets.

I think Hermes is different from all those brands as it is a luxury goods house. They pride themselves in this idea of Artisanat and their range of products is as large and diverse than we could imagine.
I’ve bought some Hermès home stuff for my mother. It looks specific without screaming Hermès.

You don’t need to subscribe to the brand aesthetic to buy their products. And for me, tbh, the RTW and the bags are literally the least exciting part of the brands. I’m fascinated by their home stuff and their horse riding stuff. It’s so decadent in a way that it’s fabulous!

It’s maybe the only brand I can think of where I can go to buy vases, a watch, perfumes, jewelry or travel bags without feeling like brand w****.

Bottega has gone too fashion. I think they discontinued that home line.

I think brands like Faure Le Page, Valextra or even Moynat could pull off the lifestyle stuff.

 

[fashionista-ta]

^ Yeah, really disappointed in where Bottega is right now.

 

[Frederic01]

Bottega Veneta is relaunching its furniture line either this year at the Salone del Mobile in September or at a later stage. Personally I am rather excited about it, as I found Tomas Maier's vision of the furniture too ordinary and in some instances a diluted version of B&B Italia. Daniel Lee has a fresh vision and one that I am curious to see translated into the furniture line.

There are examples of Lee's take on the furniture in some of the Bottega stores already, for example in the newly designed Via Condotti store, Omotesando/Tokyo, Waikiki/Hawaii, and Miami.

Interestingly, Dior hasn't committed to producing furniture yet (apart from a hammock and one chair), instead choosing to focus more on the decorative things such as dinner sets, vases, etc. I suspect the cost of producing the furniture is too high and they would rather focus more on items they can easily mark up....

 

[THD96]

Source: louisvuitton.com

€22000

It's already sold out.

 

[helmutnotdead]

we deserve five pandemics simultaneously .

 

[reese06]

They likely didn't produce many of those bicycles to be honest so it's not crazy that it's sold out in the grand scheme. I will say that it's actually cheap and tacky looking compared the bikes I have seen from Gucci and Fendi.

 

[vogue28]

According to Elle's website, the Chanel t-shirt with Lola Nicon on the front is... $5150!

 

[charles01]

According to Elle's website, the Chanel t-shirt with Lola Nicon on the front is... $5150!

This is crazy… Chanel is ridiculously priced nowadays

 

[KoV]

I'm normally pretty unbothered by the concept of unnecessary things being high priced, because people can do what they want with their own money and I assume the people making said items are being paid middle class wages (as opposed to sweatshop labor that enables most inexpensive clothes), but sometimes the prices actually do just seem arbitrarily high. Charging over $5,000 for a t-shirt is borderline offensive.

 

[aracic]

I'm normally pretty unbothered by the concept of unnecessary things being high priced, because people can do what they want with their own money and I assume the people making said items are being paid middle class wages (as opposed to sweatshop labor that enables most inexpensive clothes), but sometimes the prices actually do just seem arbitrarily high. Charging over $5,000 for a t-shirt is borderline offensive.

More than that, it's really just so damn cocky. I must assume that they sold at least some of them and it begs the question - who in their right mind would pay so much money for a t-shirt that looks like merchandise for a vampire YA book? Strip Lola off that pink set, smudge her eyeliner a bit and you've got yourself some real teen angst representation. She's even got the side fringe! Go to the market and you'll get pretty much the same thing for less than $20.
It's just so vain and quite frankly stupid to waste money like that. I get the concept that (some) people work hard to earn their money and naturally, they have the right to spend it on whatever they want however they want, but... why? At least be smart about your purchases. Save that 5k, get a botox, fly to Tahiti I don't know, but don't waste it like that. It's criminal. Eat the rich lmao

 

[Frederic01]

With all due respect, I don't think people understand the concept of why Chanel is priced the way it is. Chanel operates solely around the idea that they are "the ultimate house of luxury" ie. the most prestigious, most expensive, most aspirational, etc. They price their goods accordingly at the very top end of the pricing model. This reinforces ideas of brand value and people buy into that. It's Marketing 101.

The other reason why Chanel prices are so high is that other brands that are "below" on the luxury scale (Gucci, Saint Laurent, Celine, etc) keep raising their prices in order to a) increase their own brand value and b) to offset low sales (don't forget all these other brands are part of groups that have shareholders, so they are constantly under pressure to sell to keep the shareholders happy), and so in order to reinforce the idea that Chanel is at the top, Chanel must constantly adjust their prices to be ahead of everyone else. It's a constant game and the people who buy Chanel seem to accept the ridiculous prices.