Nudity

[lostgirl]

"Real or not, Gisele adamantly refuses to ever fully reveal her breasts, whether for a fashion show or for a pictorial"
-from ask men.com
oh please...

 

[hugobossdaria]

another one

 

[lady grey]

yes

Do her boobs in the first picture look a lot smaller than they do in all of the other pics?

it appears that gisele has has not just one but several boob augmentations, including going really big a few years ago.

I support everything abouyt gemma & have never seen a single picture of her that I do not love.
If youre going to criticize a model for tasteless pictures, youll find better examples in the gisele pictures in this thread or other pin up type stuff in maxim, fhm, [see heidi klum, karolina, tyra, choose your fave commercial zone, swimsuit model, ana beatriz on all fours next to a picture of a chimpanzee, ana hickman with her fingers on her vagina all greased up and pulling down her panties to show the tattoo on her bikini line] and even SI or VS where its aimed more at teenage boys, as opposed to gemma's beautiful high fashion status & work.

gisele obviously lied about never showing her nipples and heiny. she also lied about never getting fake boobs [and likely facial surgeries too].

 

[scblonndie]

First of all, just because she looks twelve doesn't mean she is. Really you're just faulting her for being flat-chested, and saying that small breasts are offensive. Am I misunderstanding you?

Yep.

 

[lostgirl]

Yep.

well, what id you mean?

 

[evexa]

Why does everyone make such a big deal out of being naked.

Being naked and sexy is fabulous IMHO.

 

[lady grey]

yes

I certainly agree with you that the human form is beautiful & natural & nudity is totally ok.
europeans have a more natural & humane acceptance of nudity whereas americans have a lot of religious-based hang ups unfortunately.

however in photography-art-fashion, there can be nudity which is not that great. some of terry richardson's nudes are degrading to the subject , and also ugly to some eyes.

I actually dont mind any of those gisele nudes above. only her false claim that show doesnt get nude.

nudity is great & the discussion then becomes what is objectification & what is beauty. what is exploitative and what is art.
all these words are subjective thats why the art form of photography 7 models in them are interesting to discuss.
but i dont mind sensuous phiotos & even some sadistic or bizarre images are hot, look at helmut newton.

 

[sapphireskies]

Yep.

Implants for everybody then! Sometimes I wonder if Gisele got an augmentation in hopes that wold direct attention off her nose and lack of hips , to her chest.

 

[scblonndie]

*letting out a big sigh*

I think implants are ugly when they are obvious. I think being flat chested is just as beautiful. I don't think naked little girls who look like they are 12 are beautiful. And it's not just in Gemma's body, it's in the face. Pretty face, but better with the clothes on.

 

[lostgirl]

*letting out a big sigh*

I think implants are ugly when they are obvious. I think being flat chested is just as beautiful. I don't think naked little girls who look like they are 12 are beautiful. And it's not just in Gemma's body, it's in the face. Pretty face, but better with the clothes on.

OK, I think I understand you better now. It's more Gemma in particular than flat-chested girls in general. Thanks for explaining

 

[sapphireskies]

I think implants are ugly when they are obvious. I think being flat chested is just as beautiful. QUOTE]

Oh. Sorry, I misunderstood what you wrote. Point taken.

 

[extramax]

you are wrong, the designer "tested" each clothes several times before it is presented on the catwalk. and which model has to wear it.
the designer doesnt have to change the design but the model.
gemma is presenting sex. why do you think are the models have to look good? it s all more or less about sex. thats is fashion. but maybe you are a little bit too young...

I understand where you are coming from, but keep in mind that it is not Gemma's choice what she wears and does not wear on the catwalk. Runway slip-ups are inevitable with ANY designer. It happens all the time, it cannot be something to dwell over, and it's not something anyone can really avoid.. even the designer. The designer isn't going to change their designs to make sure that a young-looking model's nipple doesn't partially show. Their job is to present unique clothing. Yes, it is Gemma's choice to be up there, but part of being a model is being comfortable with yourself. Like I said before, she is not deliberately flaunting her chest. She is not "presenting sex," the viewers are there strictly to view the fashion. If they want to look at beautiful vuluptuous naked breasts, they can look else where. The point of them being up there is not to present their bodies. It is not called a model show for a reason; it is to present the fashion in a fashion show.[/QUOTE]

 

[extramax]

look at this top. do you really think nobody before has been aware that her boobs will pop out on he catwalk? are you so naively?

 

[martinionrox]

^ I am completely aware, but like I said being part of being a model is being comfortable with your body. Believe me, I understand that models go to fittings (I've been to plenty) before the show or else it would be a catastrophe. The models, however, do not choose what they wear. And it probably wouldn't be acceptable if models kept turning down their chosen clothes because they were afraid of a little nipple showing. Designers could eventually become irritated with this, so the model would stop getting booked, hince stop getting paid. The models may be presenting sexy clothes, but they, themselves are not presenting sex. Most high-fashion models have very plain, flat-chested bodies, which is the opposite of presenting sex. They present the clothes. Their bodies are not meant to distract from the clothing. That is my opinion, you are just as justified to have yours as well.

 

[uberwench]

I think it's wrong to say that Gemma's nip-slips are disturbing because she has the body of a 12 year old. She has her own body, she isn't 12, and I know women who are ten, or twenty, even, years older than her and still have a flat chest. I know women in their late twenties who still get mistaken for teenagers. Saying that showing a flat chest automatically conjours up images of prepubescents is wrong. It may do for you, but doesn't automatically do so.

I've never seen a distasteful picture of Gemma, even those of her nip-slips, because her nudity, when it happened, seemed quite natural, and not for purely sexual purposes. And I do think that with things like floaty Chloe blouses, it's preferable to have a nip-slip than to tape the clothes and ruin their movement, or to stick something beneath them. They conjour up a time before the sex-saturated now, when you could actually run through fields with no bra, and no shoes, and your top half falling off, and just feel free and beautiful .

I did, however, think that Tom Ford YSL runway show where all the nipples were painted purple was distasteful. Just because that was so obviously 'sex sells'. But the last thing that show was trying to be was tasteful, so I think it served the greater purpose of showing the clothes the way the designer wanted them to be seen.

As to models -I think it's part of the job to be comfortable with your body. If you can't be as successful without 'doing nudity', that's fair enough, because you're not offering what other models are prepared to.

Oh, and Gisele 'not doing transparent' clothes is b*llocks!

(..have been lurking for a while... who would have thought that my first post would be in 'nudity'... )

 

[martinionrox]

hehe, well nudity is the epitome of controversy! Welcome to TFS

I totally agree with your post, especially regarding the Chloe runway. Those clothes are so beautiful and flowy, showing some nipple isn't distatseful, it's purely natural. but purple nipples and all that on the other hand..

 

[lostgirl]

Welcome to TFS! I agree w/ everything you said by the way.

 

[lady grey]

gemma

Ive never seen a bad pic of gemma and its beautiful that a model can be seen naturally like that. natural boobs beat fakes everytime.
not all women are C or D cups so lets represent for the real women not the bike pump silicone saline boob fakes.
gemma rules.

 

[AlexN]

^

 

[extramax]

sorry, but you as a 16 years old girl dont need o tell me (fashion photographer, master of arts (design) to explain the advantage of small boobs regards to presenting clothes.
have i ever said that big boobs are better and small tasteless? i said thats only in case of gemma and could look like childporn to the public. and if you dont see the implicit role of sex in fashion you are too young and naively...