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^I'm very happy Naomi is going forward and doing something to protest and hopefully correct this problem. I was afraid it might've been a Naomi mini-rant, soon forgotten.
 
I am happy that the black models are doing something about this, because it seems unfair to them. I like seeing all types of faces on magazines.

But the asians, spanish, and other types need to follow suit and protest as well. I'm sure the idiot model-casters will be pressured to put different types of models at the shows now if they go ahead with the class action suit, because if this were another industry this blatant racism would have been taken to court a long time ago!
 
more on the panel discussion from wwd...

Is there discrimination in the fashion business?

"You bet," was the consensus at a panel discussion addressing the dearth of black models in fashion, with Naomi Campbell, Iman, Liya Kebede and Bethann Hardison leading the charge. The situation was starkly evident during last week's New York shows and some say it's worse in Europe, where most black models don't even bother to try to book shows in Milan.

And the problem isn't only in the modeling world; observers also pointed to the scarcity of black designers, photographers and executives in the fashion industry as a major issue.

By not including more blacks in their shows and ads, Ivan Bart, senior vice president of IMG Models, said designers and other fashion companies are missing out on black women's spending power. "By not having black women represented, those luxury brands are saying they can't afford it," he said.

According to estimates by Targetmarketnews.com, black women spend more than $20 billion on apparel alone each year.

After more than two hours of spirited exchanges at Friday's "The Lack of the Black Image in Fashion Today," the standing-room-only crowd at the Bryant Park Hotel cheered at André Leon Talley's suggestion to set up a meeting with the Council of Fashion of Designers of America to address the issue. That is expected to be scheduled after an Oct. 15 public discussion at the New York Public Library.

Hardison, who has modeled, run her own modeling agency and handled casting over the years, said, "In the United States of America, this is the one industry that still has the freedom to refer to people by their color and reject them in their work."

And she doesn't see things improving anytime soon. "I came up in the Sixties. I feel it's the worst it's ever been."

More than anything, she hoped the discussion would raise people's awareness of the lack of black women on the runways and in magazines, and ultimately encourage those in power to make some changes. Singling out the late Richard Avedon, who refused to work with Harper's Bazaar in the late Seventies after the magazine declined to hire China Machado for his shoot, Hardison spurred on attendees to get industry insiders more involved.

Daniel Wolf, a Washington-based attorney who specializes in civil and human rights, said the assumption being made in the fashion industry is that it is legal to discriminate — however false. Wolf recommended that modeling agencies hire the same percentage of black models that are in the entire modeling industry.

Kebede, the first black model to be hired by Estée Lauder, said, "It's important for the agencies to have more black girls. But if the magazines and designers are not going to hire them, that's it at the end of the day."

Hardison insisted she is not motivated by legal action, stressing she only wants further discussion — and eventually change.

The lack of black designers and photographers only adds to the problem, attendees said. Stephen Burrows and B. Michael are still on the scene, and more recently Tracy Reese, Rachel Roy, Kimora Lee Simmons, Patrick Robinson and Sean "Diddy" Combs are among those non-Caucasian designers making names for themselves in women's fashion.

The lack of blacks in all aspects of fashion — from the runway to the executive suite — comes as there is a noticeable increase in the number of Asian models, designers and executives in the industry. Among designers, for example, Thakoon Panichgul, Peter Som, Doo-Ri Chung, Derek Lam, Phillip Lim, and Benjamin Cho have all sprung onto the scene. Of course, designers like Vera Wang, Yeohlee Teng, Anna Sui and Vivienne Tam had already helped pave the way.

Of the 101 shows and presentations posted on Style.com, 31 appear to have no black models. Most of those who did use black models opted for one or two. However, Heatherette, Diane von Furstenberg, Charles Nolan, Tracy Reese, Yigal Azrouël, Philip Lim, Marc Jacobs, Jenni Kayne and Sue Stemp were among the designers who used more than two. Heatherette, von Furstenberg and Lam each opened their shows with a black model. In fact, von Furstenberg closed her show with the opening girl, too, and the first 10 models at Heatherette appeared to be women of color.

Campbell, who flew in from London for the occasion, recalled how Christy Turlington once told Dolce & Gabbana, "If you don't use Naomi, you don't get us," referring also to Linda Evangelista. Campbell said that's how she also got into Helmut Lang, Prada and Versace. She used a different route with French Vogue, appealing to Yves Saint Laurent, whose campaigns she had worked on for three years running. The magazine relented after the designer threatened to pull his advertising, which at the time was reportedly the publication's largest advertiser.

"In my days of drinking and drugging, I'd be numbing myself just going along with the calendar," Campbell said. "I was tired and fed up and I wasn't sure why I was doing it. But if I didn't, there wouldn't be any representation [of black models at all]."

Iman said she felt strongly about organizing a union for models, noting it's the only huge industry that does not have one. "Models don't have a union. They don't have a voice. No one speaks for them. Thank God I'm not a model anymore."

The fact that magazines are often run by people who are not from the U.S. and do not share its history is another factor, Hardison said. But even if a model is a citizen of a particular country, it doesn't always make a difference. Campbell claimed she has asked for a British Vogue cover, but was told a celebrity had to run instead. "I cannot even get a cover in my own country — not because I don't sell — in fact I sell more than all of my white counterparts."

Campbell last appeared on W's cover in June 2007. Reached by phone last week, publicists at three American fashion magazines said the most recent African-Americans on their covers were celebrities. Halle Berry was the most recent African-American woman to appear on the cover of Harper's Bazaar in August 2004; Beyoncé graced Elle's December 2006 cover; Vogue gave Jennifer Hudson the March cover, while Chanel Iman was featured along with nine nonblack models on Vogue's May cover.

Bill Blass' former designer, Michael Vollbracht, recalled the days when booking Sheila Johnson, Pat Cleveland and other leading African-American beauties was a given. After returning to the industry after a 15-year hiatus, he was surprised to learn that was no longer the case. Age is also an issue, Vollbracht said. Cleveland's return to the Blass runway in 2004 was not well-received, Vollbracht said. "I was told, 'Don't ever put that girl back on the runway.'"

Campbell herself will be casting for 10 black models this week for a charity fashion show Thursday. Her initial request for black models fell on deaf ears. But at the symposium, she scoffed at reports she is starting a modeling agency, explaining that she is working with the Aga Khan to develop an empowerment program for girls in Africa.

Reese raised another issue, noting designers don't want models who stand out on the runway. Her own casting calls for a mix of people, but the designer admitted that "finding black models can be a challenge."

On occasion Reese's booker has to request specific girls or the modeling agencies will not send them, Reese said.

In addition, designers' quest for a unified look has left its mark on the industry. She said, "Personality has been so beaten out of fashion. That whole mood has to change."

Hardison chalked up that lack of charisma on the runway to companies' focus on building their brands. "Everything is about branding now. When something is so commerce-driven, creativity is gone."
 
another interesting article from yesterday's wwd...

Where Were the Black Models?
The dominance of white models in last week's New York fashion shows wasn't lost on attendees.

Fashion photographer and "America's Next Top Model" judge Nigel Barker said, "Everyone is always talking about the weight issue, I think they should be talking about race."

In the midst of taking in 15 shows, he said he was "somewhat surprised" by the predominantly white casting at many of them. "I understand the idea it's based on. It's almost as though each girl is a clothes hanger. If each is seen as being the same, you're not going to focus on the girl, you're going to be focused on the clothes."

Often it's the celebrity designers, not the ready-to-wear or couture ones, who are willing to use a wider range of models, Barker said. "Showing different girls of different shapes and ethnicities involves taking a risk and some are not willing to take that risk."

More often than not, diverse casting was not the norm. Steven Kolb, executive director of the Council of Fashion Designers of America, said the variety of ethnicities in Phillip Lim's and Diane von Furstenberg's shows jumped out at him.

"There were a lot of different types of ethnicities. Is it any different than in past seasons? That's a hard thing to compare. But it has been fairly white. Theirs was more the exception than the rule," said Kolb.

"Is that a reflection of the shows or modeling? Is it intentional? I don't think so. The fashion industry has always been known to have a real mix of people," added Kolb.

Patti LaBelle, who performed after Zang Toi's fashion show, said, "When you go to a fashion show, you may see one black model. It's so sad that it's so one-sided. I thought it was so admirable that Zang had so many types of models. When I go to a fashion show, I want to see me."

After the Luca Luca show, Irina Pantaeva said, "I see an Asian girl here and there, but it seems like it has always been that way. It seems like they can't have more than one or two, and it's the same with African-American models."

A greater mix seems rudimentary "especially in New York City, the capital of the word, where all types of cultures and classes come together. Fashion in New York City should naturally represent that," she said.

When casting for her show, Kai Milla said she looks for someone interesting and who fits into her clothes. "I think great models are of all ethnicities. We're living in the real world and the real world exists with a real mixed group of people. What we as fashion designers show in magazines and on the runway is really important to young girls because it affects their self image," she said.

Maybe the borderless business is being interpreted in unusual ways.

One executive at a major design firm noted matter-of-factly, "We use all types of girls: English, Irish, American, Swedish. There is always a mix."

Mark Badgley said, "It's true I see many collections where it's one certain look or the girls are made up to look exactly the same. We like a little variety. I think it's nice to use some of the young girls, some of the more established girls. That's always what our shows are kind of about."

After modeling for Temperley, Rosa Cha and others, Solange Wilvert said she didn't think the casting in Bryant Park was drastically different than in seasons past. "Maybe there aren't many black models," she suggested.
 
WWD.com - Sept17
Campbell, who flew in from London for the occasion, recalled how Christy Turlington once told Dolce & Gabbana, "If you don't use Naomi, you don't get us," referring also to Linda Evangelista. Campbell said that's how she also got into Helmut Lang, Prada and Versace. She used a different route with French Vogue, appealing to Yves Saint Laurent, whose campaigns she had worked on for three years running. The magazine relented after the designer threatened to pull his advertising, which at the time was reportedly the publication's largest advertiser.

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Iman said she felt strongly about organizing a union for models, noting it's the only huge industry that does not have one. "Models don't have a union. They don't have a voice. No one speaks for them. Thank God I'm not a model anymore."

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Reese raised another issue, noting designers don't want models who stand out on the runway. Her own casting calls for a mix of people, but the designer admitted that "finding black models can be a challenge."

On occasion Reese's booker has to request specific girls or the modeling agencies will not send them, Reese said.

In addition, designers' quest for a unified look has left its mark on the industry. She said, "Personality has been so beaten out of fashion. That whole mood has to change."

Hardison chalked up that lack of charisma on the runway to companies' focus on building their brands. "Everything is about branding now. When something is so commerce-driven, creativity is gone."
it's something else that a lot of the fashion industry feels like this stuff will just work itself out, that they don't need to do anything, or that race doesn't really matter. i really like how this article highlights that it took two supermodels and a major fashion house to get Naomi Campbell's foot in the door. why? and the idea that this industry has become more white after 15 years coincides with this whole supermodel-is-dead and size-0 phenomenon (w/ some designer preferring the skinniest, boniest girls) ... and with both of these movements the talk surrounding it is that the models and power--or lackthereof.
women with attitude, who're empowered and charismatic are no longer in fashion according to some. (i'unno if i buy that, but this idea of power, the model, and empowerment is really interesting for me).
also, for a bunch of the fashion minded ppl in the industry (as evidenced by the articles) and users on this board ... talking about race matters and is as relevant as the model weight/health discussions and has a lot to do with the Fashion Industry because of its affects on our national and global cultures' aesthetics.
 
It's a good thing I'm so Zen or Solange's comment would make me want to gnash my teeth to powder, as Gayle King says :lol:

She is young ... that's what I always tell myself, but that is exactly the wrong-headed, clueless, ostrich-like thinking that seems to be so prevalent.

And just why is it, Solange, when there are plenty of tall, skinny, distinctive looking people of color ... and this is a job that requires no special background or training, in theory it's open to everyone ... that there are so few black models??? :unsure: :huh: Is it just the strangest thing, or is there a ... reason??? :innocent:
 
I actually think that this year has been a good year for black models so far. Naomi and Liya have had various covers and editorials. Kinee Diouf has frequently appeared in magazines even Chanel Iman is more prominent as of late. I wonder where all these people were 2 years ago when magazines and designers would only use one black model...if any at all :innocent:

Meanwhile...Naomi has been shooting for British Vogue this past weekend :lol:
 
It's a good thing I'm so Zen or Solange's comment would make me want to gnash my teeth to powder, as Gayle King says :lol:

She is young ... that's what I always tell myself, but that is exactly the wrong-headed, clueless, ostrich-like thinking that seems to be so prevalent.

And just why is it, Solange, when there are plenty of tall, skinny, distinctive looking people of color ... and this is a job that requires no special background or training, in theory it's open to everyone ... that there are so few black models??? :unsure: :huh: Is it just the strangest thing, or is there a ... reason??? :innocent:

Relating to what lesyper said, I think maybe because many african americans have rounder/bigger 'booties' and right now the trend is near death skinnyness. Wherent there more black models when models had more butt and hips?
 
^ Hmm, interesting point GG ...

I have noticed that some of the best-known black models are African rather than African-American, like Alek and Iman ... but it's definitely a common feature.

I have not paid a lot of attention to their "rear views," I will have to do that if given a chance ... ;)
 
Has anyone else noticed that the international Vogues, more often than not, have European models on their cover as well? This is a bit different, considering these countries have such homogenous populations- white people aren't 80% of their country. In fact, they probably don't even make up 8% of the population! The premier issue of Vogue India had to have Gemma Ward loged comfortably between two Indian woman far superior to her in beauty- as though the magazine felt that, without a cute white girl, they weren't going to sell. Most of the year, Vogue Nippon, Madame Figaro, and Numero Japan have models of European heritage on their covers (usually Lily Donaldson or Coco Rocha).

Yes, these models are the most popular models in the American/European fashion world, but do you really expect me to believe that Vietnamese, Thai, Japanese, Chinese, and Korean models are totally unknown in their home country? Or the actresses? If they don't get exposed in their own country, where will they be?
 
I just noted that for the inaugural Vogue India cover. Why in the world is Gemma Ward in the middle of that cover. awful. I mean, sure have her share the space for other covers, but why the first issue?!

a lot of the better known models have more euro-friendly facial features (Noemie Lenoir) or are BLAAAACK women (Alek Wek). so hilarious. chanel iman is a bit of a cough of fresh air because she doesn't have white features, but isn't also a mix and match of exoticized features like what Kimora Lee was fancied for (black lips, asian eyes, "nice nose", etc). there's a LOT of black women who have the body types for high fashion (height, weight, less curvey/no bubble butt).
 
^^ what do you mean? Chanel Iman is half Asian. Her eyes, hair, and skin tone make that evident...
 
^^ what do you mean? Chanel Iman is half Asian. Her eyes, hair, and skin tone make that evident...

Chanel Iman has a more pug'd out nose rather than a euro-friendly one (see Kimora Lee & Naomi and most older black models). her eyes aren't distinctly chinese/japanese (small and really slanted), but bigger, and her skin tone can easily make her african american. Chanel Iman is racially ambiguous but not in the traditional ways is all i'm saying.
 
When I first saw a pic of her, if someone asked me to racially identifier her I would have easily just said "she's black." And isn't she only 1/4 Korean? Either way, doesn't change the fact that is nowhere near attractive. :ninja:
 
I personally think that Naomi is talking the truth i mean lets be honest the fashion industry represents a worryingly eurocentric focus on beauty which obviously comes from the association of wealth with those in power and colonialism going back centuries etc etc. Unless the fashion industry better yet the world takes in beauty as it is, in all colours and races then it will be equal. To be honest its also rare to see asian models as well which is worrying, many people and i dont mean fashionistas/people on this forum ur average joe aspire to whiteness especially accross asia and africa the advertising out there is very biased.

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