Raf Simons Leaving Christian Dior; Maria Chiuri Rumored In

Good news..
I think Dior deserves a better designer. Most celebrities who wore his creations looked really bad (especially Marion Cotillard).

True! And when they did look good it was usually because the silhouette/print looked very inoffensive. There's been a Dior drought on red carpets because the looks were so difficult to wear. Anyway, whoever it will be should have a concise vision applied from the drawings right through to to campaigns and muses. It's interesting, Marion, Charlize (Natalie I'll omit on purpose!) will now experience life under their 3rd creative director! So the celebrity spokespersons are more stable than the creative forces? Lol. Don't see them, in addition to Jennifer, leaving anytime soon. Not only do they have renewed contracts in place, but their initial appointment seemed to have been made by corporate instead of the actual designer.
 
I don't think he ever looked at home at Dior. Watching the documentary done on his first couture collection he looked not nervous, but sort of awkward - that he already knew it wasn't for him. He's far to progressive for Dior, however he produced some beautiful clothing. But Dior (especially with Toledano and Arnault) want a designer to parade around in public and generate hype and excitement to drive sales, and Raf was never going to be that designer.

Fingers crossed he doesn't work for another label. I'd be thrilled if he just focused on his own brand and launched womens wear.

I completely agree. He seemed overwhelmed by the Dior machine and all of the responsibilities that came along with it.
 
I'm really surprised by this and was actually beginning to warm up to his work. His direction for Dior was an ambitious change from Galliano and it'll be sad to see him go. Nonetheless I'll be very excited to see who will take his spot but please not Tisci, simply unimaginable.
 
I was thinking that it's really incredible how many changes we have lived as of late... But at the same time we aren't really aware of it. A Dior designer stepping down after three years. It's just beyond shocking! It's the second most important brand in the world, yet we are so used to it that it comes across as normal. Alexander Wang lasted even less at Balenciaga... And they are both 'top designer'. There was so much stability before...

Designers are no longer important... They are so easily replaceable. CEOs just have to think who will create buzz for two seasons, take advantage of the hype the next five seasons, wait to see if it keeps working and then find another one.

I hated what he was doing chez Dior, I hated how full of himself he looked, how pretentious he was and how horrible his interviews at Dior were. And to see somebody with so much ego stepping down from a position like this is very revealing of how hard it is to work for a top brand right now. There is too much of everything.

Plus, I think they knew he was leaving Dior a while ago. They must know who the next designer is. I honestly think there's nobody with the talent to take the reigns of the brand. Just Ghesquière. Olivier would be great for two years, but maybe he ends up being boring... I would like to enjoy what he does one more time, it would be amazing for sure, finesse at its best, but I can't imagine his rtw offerings, just the couture.

Marc would be wrong too... He was the frontrunner last time, but he is at the same state as Tisci. Burned designers... Nothing fresh about them. And it would show that LVMH didn't want him at Vuitton no more...

I honestly think it's a very hard decision to make. Let's see what the future holds...
 
^ Much ego? We both don't know him but he seems to have less than 10% of the ego Galliano had.. and Galliano got fired.
 
Yes, I think so. I've read almost all his interviews and he always came across as he was on an ego trip. Mocking Galliano, Karl Lagerfeld... He seemed quite bitter in a nasty way, like he did it better than anybody and that he was the best. You can think it but don't say it... It's very weird to read it. And when you are like that, saying no to Dior must be hard. And Galliano was full of ego in a naive way I think... And I'm sure it was hard for him too but he didn't choose it.

I've read Simons told them in Summer (or before). They have to know who the next one is for sure.
 
^ Much ego? We both don't know him but he seems to have less than 10% of the ego Galliano had.. and Galliano got fired.

Galliano got fired because of his anti-semitic comment and he was drunk in this moment.They must fired him. Galliano was in Dior from 1996 till 2011.
If Simons really left Dior by himself, because his contract is-was till May 2016, if i don't mistake , so , than it's , yes, sure tooo much Ego!

Sincerely, i don't like him and i didn't like his creations-collections, for Dior. All he did was boring, uninspired and unimaginative ,i agree with florylate

Nicolas Ghesquiére can- could be perfect for Dior but i don't believe he will leave LV, than who knows.
I would like to see really Tisci at the helm of Dior but same, will he leave Givenchy?
Olivier Theyskens can- or could be perfect too.

In the Simons time Dior was only label, nothing more.
I don't know who bought his creations in boutiques, i cann't buy Dior but sincerely, if i could i wouldn't buy his creations. It's better he designed for his own Label.
 
lets be honest. it was not working. it was to far off of what galliano did and it was to minimal. the ads were awfull and visually, it was not that interesting. everyone liked the shows for the sets and the flowers and the femininity, but the clothes were all to subtle for the dior consumer. a slight dip in hemline, a transparent flower on the back. it was never believable and even though it selled apparently, it wasn't exciting the way that SL when hedi took over. IF you read what cathy wrote, there are formulas for this stuff. they basically have to do everything. a heel, a flat, a little black dress, knitwear, a basic trouser, a good white shirt etc etc. Dior became too specific to dressing in a way no one dresses anymore. too old, not modern. yes raf is modern and the designs were "modern" cause it was minimal, but not in the way that celine was modern. he put everything with those awfull heels that the girls bleed from and coulnt not walk in. Pheobe put the same ideas with flats and in an easier way that made it look modern and less lady.

i think they are all feeling the pressure of all the work. Everyone is overwhelmed with the amount of collections to put on and the product to put out there and its the same in EVERY part of fashion. Stylists, makeup artists, hair dressers having to give new looks each time, models turning over so fast for the new, art directors having to find new ways to get their clients noticed with pre collection advertising. its too much and fashion is not organized that way. They have not as an industry, grown with the times. There are very few great people who can handle all of this workload. Hedi has control at SL. he has a manageable job - no big pre collection shows etc. LV and Nicolas is stumbling under the work load as you can see from the last collection. Didnt wang, Sacai and Celine already do those shoes? and those Tiaras :blink: Chanel is a monster machine, but its old and feels gimachy and tired now. its always some stupid theme that has nothing to do with anything else. Gucci is going to have the same problem eventually. They can't keep showing the same wardrobe. it will need to evolve into something else and I'm not sure if michele knows what the bigger picture is - or maybe it will work the way SL keeps sending out the same dress/idea season after season. Even smaller designers are struggling. Wang, Alturzara, Proenza. they are all having to refocus on how to grow there brands or they will be out of business. Even the great Marc Jacobs is in big trouble. As fun as the shows are, no one knows what it is and no one is buying it anymore. he is throwing everything at it - celebrities, it girls, instagirls, personal scandal and its still floundering.

how is dior going to handle this? do they bring in a "team"? do they bring in a great marketer ? do they do they bring in someone young they can control and hope they have the energy to not burn out to fast? Or do the bigger brands restructure and figure out a better way to do it all. At the top, there are very few people that can make final decisions on packaging, imagery, design etc. they must be answering questions all day long. i would lose my mind to. Raf is smart for getting his life back and not dying for fashion. i think he was going to get fired eventually anyway. the last show was terrible and the newness of him was wearing off not in a good way.
 
There was indeed a degree of haughtiness and sneer in some of his interviews, but cloaked with intellectualism, so I dont suppose many will pick up on it. But that too is fine with me, if Tisci and Karl are allowed to be unabashedly egotistical, why not Raf in his own way? Just because he's a timid and sensitive soul doesnt mean he's not fuelled by his ego. Then there was the documentary which highlighted more than anything how ill-fitting he was for the job. A much too insular manner of working, couldnt abide the celebrity component which formed an integral part of the brand, and yet he signed up for it. Stripped the noise, drama and intrigue which was the very selling point of Dior at the time, and instead presented something structured and clear cut. It not only sold, well, but Dior's 'new/modern woman' created a movement in fashion. The expressionless and damp-haired waif, with her structured neutral outfits which dominates both mainstream and indie magazines alike actually feels like a replica of his 'modern woman'. So while I might not be a fan of anything he's done for Dior, I cannot deny the effect he's had on fashion over these past 3 years. This was a learning curve for both Raf and Dior. I doubt whether he'll move to another house with such a deep-rooted structure and public demands again, and Dior must admit for once that Galliano's tenure shaped the brand tremendously and trying to eradicate it is damn near impossible. I pity the poor fellow who will succeed Raf, they'll need not only have to deal with Galliano's haunting presence, but also Raf's. It'll not be Philo - pray to God for this. And hopefully not Frida. The way she and her husband were ousted at Gucci, and her last few seasons at that house? No! In theory Nicolas would be my ideal choice. Yes, right now he's enjoying the art of 'creating clothes women can actually wear', but sooner or later it'll get monotonous for him. I personally feel he's a couturier at heart, it's beginning to trickle through at LV.
 
I second those remarks about Raf announcing to leave a few months earlier. I doubt they haven't chosen a replacement yet, they are probably waiting for the right moment to announce.
 
^ Much ego? We both don't know him but he seems to have less than 10% of the ego Galliano had.. and Galliano got fired.


i agree. i am not sure ego was the reason he left. i think it was the amount of work and not having time to fully realize an idea. he had to do so many collections I'm sure he looked back at some of them and felt they were rushed and not good and yes he has an ego so he doesnt want to put bad things out there, but not tantrum ego like so many other designers.
 
Oyster magazine said something about Simon Potre jaquemus or something. I wonder if I can write a letter begging LVMH to hire olivier theyskens
 
I was never a hard-core fan of what he did at Dior, but I did enjoy his collections, he was not good all the time, I never like his pre-fall collections but his HC and RTW were great mostly. It must have been though for him to leave.
I just wish him all the best, he's undoubtedly an amazing designer... he will be missed.

I will miss the venues and the music, they were always haunting.
 
Why Fashion is Crashing

23 October 2015
Suzy Menkes

The announcement that Raf Simons is resigning from his position as creative director of Christian Dior might seem like a sequel to Dior and I. That film showed the Belgian designer's arrival at the historic Parisian house, his struggle, his tears, his million flowers decorating the walls of the couture show - and his ultimate triumph.

But as with any designer for a luxury house, one successful show is never enough. That film has to be rolled over, again and again and again. January is haute couture; March is ready-to-wear; May is cruise; July couture again; September ready-to-wear again; November resort - or is it cruise again?

Add to this the advertising campaigns, personal appearances, store openings, global visits, trunk shows, museum exhibitions, interviews, Instagram - and it's a wonder that any designer is prepared - or able - to keep up the pace.

The statement that Dior sent out this week was amicable but definite. After three and a half years at the helm, Raf Simons would not renew his contract with Christian Dior "for personal reasons". And the show earlier this month - a well-received fusion of Victorian underwear and modernist clothing - would be his last.

"It is a decision based entirely and equally on my desire," said Raf, while thanking Bernard Arnault, Chairman and CEO of LVMH, and Sidney Toledano, Dior's Chief Executive, who returned the compliment.

I have no information on this separation - especially since I am currently in Sydney, Australia. But I remembered one incident: at last year's Frieze art fair I sent a text to Raf, whom I have known since his first edgy, schoolboy looks in menswear 20 years ago. I asked him which tent he was in and where we could meet up. The answer, which is still on my phone, was this: "I really miss it - but the schedules are so tight now with another show in December. Just a terrible agenda."

No time to take one day to go from Paris to London, for inspiration, or for the contemporary art in which Raf is so interested and knowledgable? Has being a fashion designer really come to this?

It has indeed. Like that bird in a gilded cage, creative people at the major fashion houses have everything: a circle of assistants, drivers, first class travel, access to elegant homes and celebrity clients. Everything, but time.

All of us in the industry know of people who are living on the edge, using substances to get through the days that roll inexorably into nights. We all think of Lee McQueen and his tragic ending. Of Marc Jacobs lurching though his punishing schedule until he finally gave up Louis Vuitton for his own label. With Dior again in the news, the fashion world gulps and thinks of John Galliano, his drunken anti-semitic raving and the shocking end to that chapter of a brilliant career.

We watch designers adopting protection mechanisms, like Phoebe Philo of Céline refusing to move from her native England to Paris; or Hedi Slimane fleeing Paris after his Saint Laurent shows to his home and studio in far away Los Angeles.

Designers - by their nature sensitive, emotional and artistic people - are being asked to take on so much. Too much.

The situation is not so easy for buyers and editors either, also trying to keep up with a punishing schedule. The pressure on retailing, aggravated by on-line sales and the speed of the digital world, has exacerbated the situation. People talk of "fast fashion" as though it is applied only to H&M or Uniqlo. In fact it is equally present in stores from New York's Bergdorf Goodman to Paris' Bon Marché. New lines are put up constantly, while the rest is marked down.

Then there is social media, as the voracious demands of Twitter, Instagram, SnapChat and Facebook eat into time and designers fight for attention and links to celebrities.

The people who suffer most from high-speed fashion are undoubtedly the creatives, who are the heart and soul of our industry. Without them, there is no fashion - just an echo chamber of ideas; nothing truly new, just repetition dressed up as invention.

Ultimately, the fashion world may come to thank Raf Simons for his brave stand. For walking away from Dior with his head held high. For getting his life back.

But someone has to fill his shoes, to take over at Dior. Balenciaga has only just filled its vacancy for a new creative director with Demna Gvasalia of Vetements, after Alexander Wang moved on. And if LVMH moves Riccardo Tisci to Dior, as has been suggested, his place will then be empty at Givenchy.

We used to call this game of vacant thrones fashion's "merry go round". But now the vision is much darker. Who is next to be thrown into the lion's den?

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