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@yslforever Are there clients who actually buy the most expensive pieces? A 25k silicone dress or 30k gown wouldn't surprise me at Chanel, but I don't think that YSL and Vaccarello have this type of cult following.
 
For quality, I think Miu Miu is one of the worst and overpriced brands.
Not surprising honestly, they share the same Prada subcontractors from Romania / China (kinda obvious, they are basically the same company with different brand name). Prada is renown for being the worst brand when it comes to price / quality ratio, remember when I posted in here images of 500 Eur Prada wallets with crooked / misaligned badges?
 
@yslforever Are there clients who actually buy the most expensive pieces? A 25k silicone dress or 30k gown wouldn't surprise me at Chanel, but I don't think that YSL and Vaccarello have this type of cult following.
It's limited in scope, but yes, they do have 40/50 clients spending over 3 millions a year, meaning they buy all the runway pieces (but YSL doesn't produce much, sometimes not even 50 pieces).
Those clients also order a lot of custom pieces; it's not Couture, always derivated from runway looks, and they are a small operation, but the custom ateliers are always expanding.
So yes they do have a small cult following. It could be much better though.
 
There was a video that Wisdom Kaye posted on his TikTok where he spent 18k at Miu Miu. He was upset because the zipper pull broke as soon as he got home from the store on one piece and a button fell off on another.
As he’s buttoning up the jacket and showing the damage, another button literally pops off. For quality, I think Miu Miu is one of the worst and overpriced brands.

Not surprising honestly, they share the same Prada subcontractors from Romania / China (kinda obvious, they are basically the same company with different brand name). Prada is renown for being the worst brand when it comes to price / quality ratio, remember when I posted in here images of 500 Eur Prada wallets with crooked / misaligned badges?


Not trying to hijack the thread but Miu Miu sent him replacements and he opened them live today online…and the buttons on the replacement popped off again… live. Chile…
 
Can any real insider Tell me how this works ? How is that silicone leopard piece $25000?How do they manufacture it?How many do they make ? And sale? I'm very curious. That is for sure couture price. Im guessing they see it as art. I would much rather buy something vintage from ysl. How is this sustainable as a company ?
 
yslforever will give a better insight, I only just know the fabric of this was printed silk georgette dipped in silicone rather than just printed latex/silicone. Boning in the shoulders and glued seams.
I don't have the specifics of this dress, but I assume the construction can only be made one-by-one in a small workshop... so maybe not more than 70 (prototypes and samples included). And they should exit the workshop up to a price of 200 000 for the whole order, not more and probably less. So they are trying the recoup the invoice, and the other costs (logistics, rent, distribution), by asking 25 000 on the 20 or 30 pieces they will actually sell.
 
I don't have the specifics of this dress, but I assume the construction can only be made one-by-one in a small workshop... so maybe not more than 70 (prototypes and samples included). And they should exit the workshop up to a price of 200 000 for the whole order, not more and probably less. So they are trying the recoup the invoice, and the other costs (logistics, rent, distribution), by asking 25 000 on the 20 or 30 pieces they will actually sell.
Wow that's an impressive operation,
 
I don't see why ? In my mind it is not, luxury RTW houses used to order production of 400-500 pieces; for instance, Chanel usually order 400 for a tailored piece to 1,000s for t-shirts or knitwear.

Per store, right? LOL. Chanel is massive now. They order much much more than that on pieces that are potential "top-sellers" (stores like Canton Road in HK) hence why the quality and exclusivity has plummeted in recent years. In that way I guess YSL is a lot more justified in its pricing just due to exclusivity. A Chanel jacket from a runway collection in black or white that is classic on the other hand - you'll literally see it on ten thousand (if not more) other women that season.
 
Per store, right? LOL. Chanel is massive now. They order much much more than that on pieces that are potential "top-sellers" (stores like Canton Road in HK) hence why the quality and exclusivity has plummeted in recent years. In that way I guess YSL is a lot more justified in its pricing just due to exclusivity. A Chanel jacket from a runway collection in black or white that is classic on the other hand - you'll literally see it on ten thousand (if not more) other women that season.
No, worldwide, Chanel produces each regular RTW tweed jackets in 400 to 500 pieces and knitwear in batch of 1,000, sometimes 2,000 for t-shirts or denim, but they are distributed worldwide, so that would make 3 to 5 pieces of each model per store.
YSL is much smaller, especially the stores carrying RTW, so they don't produce much more than 300 items of a runway RTW piece. Denim is their only best-seller so they order by the 1,000 but that's all.
i don't think it's a matter of exclusivity or scarcity, there just are not that many people who can afford 7,500€ silk satin coats they can wear 2 or 3 times.
 
No, worldwide, Chanel produces each regular RTW tweed jackets in 400 to 500 pieces and knitwear in batch of 1,000, sometimes 2,000 for t-shirts or denim, but they are distributed worldwide, so that would make 3 to 5 pieces of each model per store.

Ah non! I used to work at Chanel lol, there was one season where we had 300 little black jackets in the country (five stores at the time) LOL. This is not including the other versions. It was the Metiers d’art Rome collection.

T-shirts don’t even get me started!
 
Ah non! I used to work at Chanel lol, there was one season where we had 300 little black jackets in the country (five stores at the time) LOL. This is not including the other versions. It was the Metiers d’art Rome collection.

T-shirts don’t even get me started!
What ? 60 black jackets a store ? lol they really went crazy ...but it's black so maybe this country was right to buy that much...
The figures I gave are for runway pieces and per size.
 
Anthony Vaccarello makes his directorial debut with "Blurry Moon" starring Charlotte Gainsbourg:
 
Can he at least try to be a bit less basic? Every single thing he does is a cliché. He never goes deeper or tries to put it in a different context. It's like someone gave him a list of tasteful and "cool" formulas and he just blindly follows them without much thought.
 
Can he at least try to be a bit less basic? Every single thing he does is a cliché. He never goes deeper or tries to put it in a different context. It's like someone gave him a list of tasteful and "cool" formulas and he just blindly follows them without much thought.
Basic?! Couldn't you tell that Gainsbourg moving into the back seat and letting the car drive itself was supposed to be a symbol for Pinault's leaving Kering in De Meo's hands?
 
Y'all are complaining and I agree that both his collections and art direction can feel quite gimmicky but it's only going to get worse from the moment he leaves even with a "real" designer in place.
 

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