The pumps in Post #9,491 would be a Yay... for Vans slip-on sneakers. I love a cute pair of flats, but this is a Nay! If you just want a pair of flats, go get these. But if you want a pair of flats and be able to look great wearing them, avoid these and look for some better flats. All that newspaper print looks terrible for some cute flast like these. I'd be happy if it was just that natural color along with the black accents outlining the shoes. They are a nay. There are better flats to choose from than these.