Shopping At Luxury Stores

^ I agree. I think the SAs are much more to blame than the customers. It's their job to help everyone nicley no matter the age, race, what they're dressed like or how much they buy.
 
i agree with pastry and guessgirl96..these people are paid to give customer service, so it's unacceptable that they treat anyone like crap
 
This thread is dead, but I was shopping around for good quality food online when I remembered Harrods has one of the nicest food halls in London. I haven't been to Harrods for a year, ever since I was treated atrociously not once, but several times. I might brave Harrods again when I go back to London after Easter break. I hate it how going to Harrods actually kinda intimidates me....so just wanted to ask...has anyone had a good experience at Harrods? Do you have to be rich/middle-eastern oil heir lookalike/laden in designer attire to be treated as a paying customer there?
 
I loved my experience at Louis Vuitton at The Rocks in Sydney. I was very nervy about going in, especially with the security (doormen and all the staff) but I was desperate to buy my first bag and my boyfriend was sick of my whinging and pushed me through the door. The sales staff were great, after I decided on the bag, I was sat down and offered a beverage while the packaged it up, I didn't have to go to the counter and pay, they brought it all to me. Great fun, will definitely go again.
 
i went to the alexander mcqueen in the meatpacking district in nyc a few days ago and im happy to say it was a good experience. the store was empty, and I was the only shopper though they were all very welcoming, and the salesman encouraged me to try on things, especially this pair of shorts. everything looked really good, and im definitely going again
 
yes. speaking of good experiences, i'm always treated with respect at louis vuitton. the men ask me if i'm looking for something, it's really nice of them because i definitely don't look like i can afford anything in the store. well, i definitely can't;) they vaguely know what went on at the runway, so i'm able to talk to them about the collections.
 
i definitely had a good louis vuitton experience too! i was in new york for spring break, and i had been walking all over the place, so i was just wearing a pair of comfortable birkenstock clogs (they looked good with the outfit!), and the only person who scrutinized me was another customer...this asian guy who id seen earlier that day at bloomingdales...he eyed me up and down and then continued browsing, and then complained later that no one was helping him. i meanwhile had a really nice male SA, who tried his hardest to find a pair of shoes...even though i ended up buying a different pair! definitely a good experience! (btw this was at LV one east)
 
lick1987 said:
This thread is dead, but I was shopping around for good quality food online when I remembered Harrods has one of the nicest food halls in London. I haven't been to Harrods for a year, ever since I was treated atrociously not once, but several times. I might brave Harrods again when I go back to London after Easter break. I hate it how going to Harrods actually kinda intimidates me....so just wanted to ask...has anyone had a good experience at Harrods? Do you have to be rich/middle-eastern oil heir lookalike/laden in designer attire to be treated as a paying customer there?

Maybe go heavy on the bronzer? ;) (Sorry I can't help with your question, I've never been to Harrod's.)
 
lick1987 said:
Do you have to be rich/middle-eastern oil heir lookalike/laden in designer attire to be treated as a paying customer there?

i'm often designer clad i the sevice is still awful;) !

Harrods is all about how much cash you flash which kinda takes away from the pleasure of browsing. Why should they get 2% comission off my back for doing nothing- i stick to boutiques. Anyway i've found very little in menswear worth buying- save for a couple of bottega pret pieces harrods menswear have a habit of stocking dross!
 
the bestest SA i've had for chanel was in the NM las vegas. she helped my mom pick out a bag we saw with the clothes. then i told her i've always wanted to get a jacket and she said we'd have to try on some for fun! i must have tried on 10 jackets, which were all beautiful before i got my coat. she was sooooo nice and she even got me one of the reissue bags later on for my mom :) she called me in december for their sales but i couldn't get anything else :blush:

i was bummed lately to hear that she's moved on to the valentino boutique in caeser's as their manager, well, happy for her cos she's done so well but bummed for me cos she was so nice and helpful at the chanel! check out the valentino boutique, salwa's the manager now and she's very nice :)
 
I just had a really great experiance with the Chanel SA at Neimans's in Boston.
I went there to buy a 2.55 for my birthday.
I was a bit intimidated but The lady was super nice.
I was really happy with the whole thing.
 
Seeking Retail Therapy in a Temple of Fashion
New York Times
by By ALEX KUCZYNSKI
www.nytimes.com


A PAINFULLY stylish friend recently stopped by my apartment. Her handbag had broken on the street, and she wondered if I had a shopping bag to hold the contents. Peering into the cabinet where we keep such things, I saw two choices folded on the shelf. I could send her out onto the street in her Chloé platform shoes with a shiny yellow plastic drawstring bag from Dress Barn. Or I could hand her the Platonic ideal of the chic shopping bag, the Taoist uncarved block of retail therapy: the black, boxy, matte-finish Barneys bag. I debated.
In the mind-set of New Yorkers, Barneys is ineluctably linked with the achingly fashionable, or the utterly pretentious. To its New York department store brethren, Barneys is the cool kid in the class, the one with the magically floppy head of hair, while Bloomingdale's is the head cheerleader and Lord & Taylor, the substitute teacher. To be a Barneys woman is to own expensive shoes, tailored black suits, artfully shredded jeans. A Barneys man owns leather jackets and cashmere sweaters, and if he is the right age, his hair is perfectly seasoned with equal swaths of salt and pepper. He has a tan.


If New York retail were opera, the story of Barneys would be a Verdi melodrama, complicated by greed, ambition, tragedy and heartbreak. In 1923 Barney Pressman founded Barneys men's wear emporium by hocking his wife's engagement ring to pay for the lease and fixtures, according to "The Rise and Fall of the House of Barneys" by Joshua Levine (Morrow, 1999). Pressman amplified his inventory by reading the obituaries and buying the suit collections of the well-dressed, recently deceased elite.
By the 1980's, two increasingly style-minded generations later, Barneys had become a temple to fashion. The Madison Avenue store opened in 1993, with walls upholstered in goat leather and Carrara marble skimming the floors. It was a triumph of the luxe minimalism championed by the fashionable architect Peter Marino.
Two years ago, when the store was bought by Jones Apparel Group, a retail giant best known for relatively frowzy brands like Nine West and Easy Spirit, the fashion set may have feared that Barneys would go middlebrow. It hasn't. If anything, it has clung to its high-end status more fiercely than ever, creating a marketplace of designer clothes and luxury goods that captures the essence of expensive, trendy New York.
To the uninitiated the Madison Avenue store can be intimidating. It took me 10 years before I had the courage to walk in the front door and pretend I belonged. Once you dip your toe in, though, there is so much to like.
On the first floor men's ties are arrayed on a polished oak table like plump slivers of salmon; on nine I can spend a half an hour in the Barneys kids section, ogling the 7 For All Mankind toddler jeans and imagining the adult lives such children can expect; and the home department, where fantastical Buccellati silver mingles with Mrs. John L. Strong stationery. (The saleswoman told me that some customers buy the memo notepad set labeled, separately, "Pantry," "Pool House," etc., for their friends with studio apartments.)
There may be no better large selection of designer clothing under one roof in New York. Barneys devotes space on five floors to designer collections, from wispy lace pieces in rose-hued silk and cotton by Proenza Schouler to bustled ball dresses in cream silk by Giambattista Valli and flouncy black cocktail dresses by Behnaz Sarafpour.
The traditional mingles with the esoteric: Balenciaga fights for shelf space with Undercover. The cosmetics department is the best in the city, offering popular brands like Clarins and Kiehl's along with lines like Sue Devitt and Aesop.
And yet. I have two problems with Barneys. It's expensive. You'll find some nice thong sandals for the beach, but they'll be Sigerson Morrison, and cost you $335. But that's part of its very Barney-ness. Second, the service is wildly erratic.
After Jones Apparel bought Barneys, I assumed that some of the solid, middle-American Easy Spirit values might trickle down to the sales staff, but alas, from floor to floor, there is little consistency. I never know if a salesperson is going to offer me a bottled water and neck massage, or if he or she is a student of the Marquis de Sade school of salesmanship, which pretty much boils down to one tenet: You don't deserve to shop here; therefore you must shop here.
 
Perhaps I'm naïve to think that a large department store should present a more or less unified front in terms of customer service. I've always found the jewelry attendants friendly enough, if a bit chill and withholding in the way any of us might be watching over expensive merchandise right by the front door.
Barneys New York captures the essence of trendy, expensive New York.

The designer floors are less populated by the casual visitor, so the salespeople know their clients, and even if they don't, the clerk-to-customer ratio is large enough that you don't wind up feeling left out.


But at Co-op, two floors with a mix of younger labels like Trovata, Marc by Marc Jacobs and Miracle Icons, the clerks are either pushy — one guy persisted in trying to sell me an $800 Sissirossi purse even after I told him I thought it looked like a large intestine — or indifferent, frequently disappearing as soon as you enter a changing room.
On a recent occasion I tried to flag the attention of four clerks standing by the register while I stood half-naked in the dressing-room twilight waiting for a salesman to fulfill his promise to check on sizes for me. It was as if they had already marked me as someone else's commission. They stood, their arms folded, chatting as if at a cocktail party. I gave up, put all my winter clothes back on and approached the cash register, dress in hand. Faces lit up, but automatically, in the grim theatrical way when the expressions are utterly artificial. Had anyone helped me? No, I said.
Summoned as if by magic spell, the mystery man appeared to ring up my sale. "Excuse me, I helped you," he offered gaily, the oleaginous charm dripping off him like suntan grease, sweeping the dress ($385) into his arms.
"Actually, no, you didn't," I said.
"I'm sorry," he said, addressing not me but the other sales clerks. "I had to take a phone call, and it went longer than I expected." I bought the dress, and he got his commission treat. It went longer than I expected? I'll have to burn sage around the thing before I ever wear it.
And yet. Stopping in the cosmetic department is almost consistently a pleasure. Unlike the first floor of Saks, which is such an off-putting marketplace of salespeople stabbing at you with lipstick that I often perform emergency yoga moves on the street before entering, the Barneys staff is not rapacious. This is partly because they often work for the individual brands, not Barneys, and if they do work for Barneys, the commission they receive is puny, one clerk told me.
After I bought a tube of Sue Devitt lipstick — this was when I was offered the water and a neck massage with scented oil — the sales clerk threw several samples into the bag, telling me I would just l-o-v-e the St. Barth's cream rinse. Later that week I got a small package in the mail with two miniature tubes hand-labeled "St. Barth's cream rinse" and a cheerful note that read in part, "Sorry I forgot to put these in!"
As for my friend with the broken handbag, I just wasn't sure if she was Barneys bag-worthy. So I gave her the one from Dress Barn. Sometimes it's good to be humble. Or at least pretend you are.
Barneys New York
660 Madison Avenue (61st Street); Manhattan; (212) 826-8900
ATMOSPHERE Varies depending on the floor, from the serene white tundra of the designer floors to the chaos of Co-op to the lunchtime social brawl that is Fred's.
SERVICE All over the map.
KEY LOOKS If you were a Martian placed in New York City with an unlimited budget, this is where you would go to look as if you were from Noo Yawk, from jeans to ball gowns.
PRICES Generally expensive. Project Alabama cotton jersey and hand-embroidered cardigan, $1,355; Jovovich-Hawk minidress with lace trim, $535; Clements Ribeiro leather fisherman sandals, $430.
 
lovespell said:
I had my first trip to NYC and it was amazing. I loved loved loved it. But, my shopping trip to Saks Fifth Avenue was not that great. I was seriously snubbed by the sales associates. They did not smile at me, ask if I need help or anything. They hardly even looked at me. I watched people after people get assistance, but I was totally ignored. I went in with 3 goals. To by a dress for my birthday, Chanel foundation and Pucci shoes. I bought nothing. By the time I TRIED to find a dress and shoes, I was so turned off by the place that I skipped the make up counter and left. The store was amazing, the clothes were amazing, but the atmoshpere was not. The whole reason I went to the store was because I wanted personal attention, that whole helpful attitude, ect. I thought that was the whole point of shopping at those stores. Otherwise I would have shopped online. I had the money. A couple thousand to spend, actually. Why would other people's money be good enough, but not mine? I watched a rude women in velour sweats come in, try on a million things, throw minor hissy fits and buy nothing. She treated them like crap, yet they swarmed around her. I was actually looking to SPEND money. I mean, it's not like I came in looking like a scruffy homeless woman. I was wearing paperdenimandcloth jeans, ugg boots, a black turtleneck, diamond studs, hair in a ponytail, low key make up.

So what is the deal? How do I go to a place like that and get the great service I deserve, and thought I would be getting? So now I have all this money that I've worked forever saving up, but no dress. Is there some secret I'm missing? I honestly thought of sending them an email about my experience, and explaining my situation (politely, of course), just to see how they respond.

What would you do?

Sadly this is the TRUTH! That's happened to me a lot not at SAKS though! Do you know what I do? I'll release the inner B**** in me! What these SA don't know is that approximately 90 percent of sales really are sales made from people like you and I! Rich people are rich because they are frugal!

I know that for a fact:
My Cousin and her husband live and work in NYC they make (this is a very modest but educated guess) about 6 Million a year. They bought an apartment on west 34th? for at the time 1.4 and they shop at T.J.Maxx!
Why? Because they don't have that desire brand names? Don't know about that couple.

So, I say those SA's are not too smart! True or not true this is only my opinion!
 
southerncutie said:
generally, i've had excellent service in the DC area... the salespeople have been so kind and helpful when I've gone shopping. I went to Neimans, Saks, etc. in a hunt for a formal dress for a friend (who is picky and, to be frank, bitchy) and they all bent over backwards to help us. The Neimans at Tysons and Maza Gallerie? ♥ so fabulous!

I have also had great experiences at Gucci and Chanel boutiques and Neimans and Saks in Tysons in the DC area.
 
As a SA I can honestly say. Sometimes the customer is...CRAZY, and for the most part, all of the best ones (that spend loads of money) are lunatics. Right now we have a huge customer issue, which can easily be resolved but she wants the SA that she had the issue with to be fired and write her an apology letter...in addition she wants a discount because of all her "heartache"...She called coporate, who promptly told her she was crazy.

The Ralph Lauren at Tysons Galleria, they were so RUDE!! It took them an effing minute to pull colors in this polo, which I ended up buying 3 of ($90 each). Michaelangelo was the only one worth a damn, the rest were like staring me down. The Ralph Lauren at Georgetown is a little better, but the best is in Chevy Chase, thier store is the biggest and they're the nicest people Ive ever come across. In regards to Chevy Chase's makeshift Madison Avenue, the best are Dior, Saks, Saks Mens, Saks Jandel, Cartier, Neiman's, Vuitton, Tiffany's. The worst are Gucci and Barneys, at Gucci the gay-guy was so catty, and at Barneys they were pushing sh*t left and right.

The Chanel at Tysons...incomparable how they make you feel so welcome, but when you walk into the Vuitton it's like "what are you doing here?"
 
jssy4eva said:
i agree with pastry and guessgirl96..these people are paid to give customer service, so it's unacceptable that they treat anyone like crap
I wouldnt go that far, we're paid to make the merchandise move, and a good way of doing that and keeping it consistent is good customer service. Maybe only Nordstrom employs people just for customer service purposes.

Pastry said:
this may be true, but this is the queeniest thing i've ever heard...the bottom line is, a bad attitude from the sa is unacceptable, they're just SAs. this shouldn't even be a topic for discussion in the first place.

unfortunately it is.
Ya, we're just SAs but you're just a customer...who isn't spending money, you're a waste of time, time is money, they have customers who are eager to swipe thier AmEx's. Customers should be a little more considerate, SAs are not there for your entertainment, they're there to make themselves and thier employer money. Im not saying that they can be rude to you, but it's insane to expect them to spend time with you whilst a woman wearing last seasons IT bag is looking for this seasons...I wonder who they'll choose?
 
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Pastry, Barney's sales associates do not work for individual brands, they work for Barney's. And all clothing sales associates make the same commission %. They're a union so everything is already set in stone. I dunno who told you that. The only people who work for the individual brands are like the cosmetic people and thats only a select few like bionova
 
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EdK, that's in response to what? i don't rememebr mentioning anything about barney's...

Diorling, i've had my fair share of providing customer service..the store wasn't as expensive as coach, but it wasn't cheap either. i still stand by what i said..so, there's isn't time for a browsing customer, but does that mean you have to be nasty fron the beginning? no. surely, you can find time to say "hello", it's that easy...selling isn't hard.
 
youre kidding right? post 333
 
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