Shopping on eBay

Mulberry said:
Vey interesting thread!! What i would like to ask is what happens if you order for example a designer handbag outside US (e.g. Italy), which cost lets say $600 and the seller sent it by mail. What happens with customs? Do you have to pay extra taxes except these $600?. What happens if you bought it from an independent guy (so not receipt
available) not a store?
Thank you for your help:)


I bought a Marc Jacobs bag from Ebay Germany 2 years ago... didn't pay duties or anything though! Not sure how that happened, maybe they stated it as a gift... I dont even remember
 
Yeah, it's something like that... I also don't remember the time period that people can file a complaint. I know that my brother paid for an item to come from the UK and he never received it... the guy kept on telling him it was on its way and my brother waited so long to receive it that now he can't do anything about it, which really sucks for him, but he should have stayed on top of things...

My lady has had the bag for over a month and the last time I heard from her was on 6/12/06. I finally gave up on her and just gave her positive feedback and that was it. Mind you, the bag was shipped on 5/17/2006 and it took her until 6/3/06 to pick it up! Unbelieavable... Water under the bridge and now on to more selling! (hopefully.. :D )

Thanks for your support Luna! :flower:


Luna said:
I think the way ebay works... if it's 30 or 60 (I dont remember), the person can't file a complaint with ebay after a certain amount of time.

Plus, yea, if you put a return policy in your auction, and they didn't comply, you probably won't be penalized for anything.

I sold a sample bag on ebay a few months back... and the person claimed it was damaged (which it wasn't... at least not when I sent it!)... a month later she emailed me and told me that the bag was all worn on the edges... Keep in mind, she's had the damn thing for almost a month! ... she ended up taking so long to respond... that a certain amount of time passed and she couldn't do anything about it.

If you have perfect feedback and you tend to sell a bit on ebay, they'll side with you in a lot of things, after all.. they're making money from your auctions. ;)
 
ebays qutie dangerous like if you send a money order and tthen they dont send you the stff.

oh, like if i get a bag for like $670 USD and she didnt mark it as GIFT how much would i have to pay for like customs? besides i live in CAanda its crazy here the tax
 
I do not trust money orders, cash or checks. Well, I trust cash, but it isn't something traceable and most people wouldn't send cash via the mail. I only trust PayPal.

It depends what amount she writes on the airbill. You should contact the Canadian Customs office and ask them what you would have to pay. I usually write a low amount on the airbill so that it doesn't cause any problems with customs.

madem0iselle said:
ebays qutie dangerous like if you send a money order and tthen they dont send you the stff.

oh, like if i get a bag for like $670 USD and she didnt mark it as GIFT how much would i have to pay for like customs? besides i live in CAanda its crazy here the tax
 
^ yeah but its kind of risky too ive thought what if it gets lost i get like 100 bux back> ahahah that would be sad but then 670 is qutie a lot tooo siigh
 
But that is a risk for the seller to assume. Let's say she/he stated the bag was $100 and the bag got lost in the mail. She/he would be reimbursed for the amount she/he stated, but you SHOULD be reimbursed for what you paid. Unless, of course, you asked the seller to write a lower amount so that the customs fees would be less... then it's your fault.

But regardless, you need to find out from the seller HOW she/he is planning on sending it, with what insurance, as gift or not, etc. and find out from your customs office how much you would be charged (it also a good idea to ask if it makes a difference if something is a gift... it might be better than a merchandise category). Sometimes it also makes a difference if they state it is a used product... but once I heard from a postal service agent, "if you label it as a gift, and USED, they might think it's strange, since who sends used gifts...) heheheheheh :flower:
madem0iselle said:
^ yeah but its kind of risky too ive thought what if it gets lost i get like 100 bux back> ahahah that would be sad but then 670 is qutie a lot tooo siigh
 
haaha yeah tryue once i got this necklace off an ebayer and it was from Taiwan and like she didnt write the COST of item, and i still had a tracking number to track my package and i didnt have to charge anything. she put a bittyhday card and some candies so it really looks like a present cause she did mark it as GIFT but she didnt have to write the price down
 
An interesting article regarding fakes, and experiences with sellers & eBay that I thought might be relevant.

post-gazette.com said:

Cranky Consumer: What happens when an eBay steal is a fake

Thursday, June 29, 2006
By Loretta Chao, The Wall Street Journal


A Gucci wallet for $120. A Burberry scarf for $32. A pair of Tiffany earrings for $35. If prices like that for some of the hottest luxury brands seem unreal, it very well may be because the goods themselves aren't real.
The estimated multibillion-dollar counterfeit market has become a major headache for the luxury-product industry -- and for unwary consumers. Though many fakes are sold in stores, others wind up listed on auction Web sites such as those of eBay Inc., Yahoo Inc. and Overstock.com Inc., bearing attention-grabbing low prices.


Companies are stepping up their efforts to protect their brands by hiring attorneys and private investigators, and buying software programs to patrol eBay and other sites for fraudulent listings. Some investigations have led to arrests, and many have led to lawsuits. Tiffany & Co. filed a lawsuit against eBay in 2004, alleging that only 5 percent of the Tiffany items it bought through the site were authentic.


To find out what recourse people have when buying counterfeit goods through an online auction, we purchased five designer items on eBay, the leading auction site, at bargain prices for goods sellers advertised as being authentic: Chloe and Fendi handbags, a Gucci wallet, Tiffany earrings and a Burberry scarf. Finding the items was easy -- a search for any designer's name turned up dozens of results, with prices ranging from as little as 10 percent of the retail price to as much as full price. We picked the listings with the best deals from sellers who had mostly positive feedback and who guaranteed the authenticity of the products.


Though our sample was small, four of the five products we purchased turned out to be fakes. (We couldn't determine the authenticity of the fifth one.) We then followed eBay's recommended course of action: First contact the seller, and then file a formal complaint with eBay itself.
EBay ultimately refunded a portion of the purchase price after we complained. The site's policy is to cap refunds at $200 -- minus a $25 processing fee.
EBay sets $200 as the limit because many of the transactions on the site are under that amount, says spokeswoman Catherine England.


EBay said that experiences like ours are rare. "I don't think that (the test) is representative," says Chris Donlay, an eBay spokesman. "Given the amount of trade that happens on the eBay platform, the large, large, majority of transactions on eBay are satisfactory for both sides."


In our test, the black leather Fendi Spy bag ended up being the most expensive purchase, and also the biggest headache. At $260, the bag was 87 percent below the retail price of $2,000. Yet the bag was sewn together sloppily, with the monogrammed fabric on the inside protruding at some of the edges; and the light, flimsy hardware was suspiciously inferior.
It took three messages and a threat to notify eBay to finally get a response from the seller, in which he promised a refund and asked us to ship the bag to an address in New York. But days later, we found out that the address belonged to his next victim: another defrauded customer, who also paid the seller $40 for shipping charges.


After a month passed since we paid for the bag, we filed a "refund not received" complaint with eBay through a form on the site, and then, at the site's request, an "item not as described" claim. EBay investigated the claim, asking us for proof of payment and proof of return, then refunded $175. Including the shipping costs, we lost about $133 in the ordeal.


We also had to file a complaint and a claim with eBay for the Gucci Eclipse French flap wallet, which retails for $375 and that we bought for $120. The interior of the wallet we received didn't match the real version in style or color. Gucci representatives weren't permitted to authenticate merchandise, but confirmed that our description of the fake wallet didn't match any of their products. The seller was courteous and promised a refund, then disappeared after we paid $29 to mail the wallet back to South Korea. EBay refunded $95 after closing the investigation in our favor, making our loss on this item $71.


The Tiffany earrings in sterling silver, designed in a teardrop shape by Elsa Peretti, retail for $195. The United Kingdom-based seller we bought them from was listing them for $35, or 82 percent off, and said in her listing that the jewelry came from "a Tiffany & Co. manufacturer, due to a family member who works at the factory." The earrings arrived in less than one week, but the packaging was a slightly different color and texture than the normal Tiffany blue box. When we brought the earrings to the Tiffany store in Manhattan, a sales associate compared our pair with a new pair in the store and pointed out that real ones are significantly smaller than the pair we received.


The seller readily offered a refund and apologized for any inconvenience, and we sent the earrings back right away. But a week after the package was sent, we didn't get a refund or hear from the seller -- instead, we got a message from an eBay staff member saying that the listing was taken down. Still, the seller refunded the full purchase price, so the whole transaction cost us $26 (the price of sending the item back to the U.K.).


We weren't sure about the authenticity of the Burberry cashmere Novacheck scarf, which retails for $160 and we bought for $32, so we asked Michael Fink, the senior fashion director at Saks Fifth Avenue, to examine it. Mr. Fink noticed right away that the scarf didn't feel like the high-quality cashmere that is standard in Burberry scarves, and that the block-letter logo didn't match the real logo either. "The tag looks really bad -- it doesn't have the finesse of the (real) logo lettering," he said. The seller promptly offered to refund the money and sent a check a few weeks after we returned the scarf.


The red Chloe Paddington bag looked the most authentic -- when we first opened it, we couldn't find any flaws. When we took it to a Chloe boutique, the sales associates said they weren't permitted to authenticate bags, but let us compare our bag with the store's merchandise. The only difference we could find after close examination was the leather used to wrap the brass lock on the bag, which was noticeably thinner and smoother on ours than the rugged pebbled leather on the store's bag. Saks's Mr. Fink said he was impressed by the quality of both the bag and of the tags. "The leather seems fine, the tags look very official," he said. Though for the price, he said, it's unlikely to be authentic Chloe, he couldn't be sure.


Tiffany says it randomly purchased 186 Tiffany items through eBay in 2004 and found that only 5 percent of the items were genuine. That same year, the company sued eBay, claiming that the company was negligent about its anticounterfeit policies, and in some cases even promoted sellers of fake Tiffany products by advertising listings for unauthorized merchandise throughout its site and in Web advertisements on Yahoo and Google. "Tens of thousands of counterfeit Tiffany items are sold through the eBay Web site each year," the company claimed in its suit. The suit is awaiting a trial date in federal court for the Southern District of New York.


EBay's Mr. Donlay says the company was "quite disappointed that (Tiffany) felt they needed to file this suit. ... They can report items and have them taken down at any moment, and continue to do so" through eBay's Verified Rights Owner Program, or VeRO, through which brand owners can report fraudulent listings and have them pulled from the site.


According to its user agreements, eBay, which had 193 million registered users as of March, doesn't permit the listing of counterfeits and unauthorized replicas on its site. Violators of this rule are subject to punishments varying from listing cancellations to account suspension or seller-status demotion. In addition, the site has a rating system in which members can rate each other and leave negative feedback for bad sellers.
Last quarter, clothing and accessories accounted for about 8 percent of eBay's $12.5 billion gross merchandise volume, or the total value of all successfully closed items.



ITEM: Fendi Spy handbag
RETAIL PRICE: $2,000
EBAY PRICING & SHIPPING: $260 + $40
AUTHENTICITY: Fake. It was obvious from the shoddy quality, and the seller acknowledged it.
COMMENT: We recovered $175 from eBay under its buyer-protection plan, but going back and forth with the seller and then filing a claim took more than a month. Out total loss: $133.


ITEM: Burberry cashmere scarf
RETAIL PRICE: $160
EBAY PRICING & SHIPPING: 32 + 8
AUTHENTICITY: Fake, according to Saks Fifth Avenue senior fashion director Michael Fink.
COMMENT: The seller refunded $32 after we notified him.


ITEM: Tiffany Elsa Peretti teardrop earrings
RETAIL PRICE: $195
EBAY PRICING & SHIPPING: 35 + 23
AUTHENTICITY: Fake, according to a Tiffany saleswoman.
COMMENT: The seller refunded the full $58 after we notified her.


ITEM: Gucci Eclipse French flap wallet
RETAIL PRICE: $375
EBAY PRICING & SHIPPING: 120 + 17
AUTHENTICITY: Fake. Gucci said it does not make a wallet in this style.
COMMENT: The seller, despite repeated promises to refund our money, disappeared after we returned the wallet. We recovered $95 through eBay buyer protection. We lost $71 in the transaction.


ITEM: Chloe Paddington handbag
RETAIL PRICE: $1,500
EBAY PRICING & SHIPPING: 213 + 10
AUTHENTICITY: Not sure. Chloe salesmen were not permitted to comment.
COMMENT: Though he said the price is unheard of, Saks's Michael Fink said he just couldn't tell if the item was counterfeit.
Source: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06180/702121-96.stm


I myself continue to buy on eBay but I do make sure to do my research and always must get good pictures of the item.
 
Great article! I agree with you that research and good pictures are key. When shopping on eBay, it's always wise to know your product prior to buying. Ask the seller as many questions as you need. A great forum that people use to post pictures and auction #'s is http://www.thefashionspot.com/forums/f56/bag-fake-authentic-no-ebay-links-27655.html. This forum is great, especially for those who are not as knowledgeable on what to look for in the “real deal.” The people on the forum “guesstimate” pretty well and know a lot of the sellers, so many times they can say if the seller is reputable or not.
Avantster said:
An interesting article regarding fakes, and experiences with sellers & eBay that I thought might be relevant.


Source: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06180/702121-96.stm


I myself continue to buy on eBay but I do make sure to do my research and always must get good pictures of the item.
 
That's a great idea, but what would happen if the package got lost? How would it be insured if no amount was stated?
madem0iselle said:
haaha yeah tryue once i got this necklace off an ebayer and it was from Taiwan and like she didnt write the COST of item, and i still had a tracking number to track my package and i didnt have to charge anything. she put a bittyhday card and some candies so it really looks like a present cause she did mark it as GIFT but she didnt have to write the price down
 
Ineed your help

hello
i'm from middle east and iwanna buy some handbags from ebay but what do they mean by Payment methods:PayPal can i buy from this site by my VISA??
 
paypal is a form of payment. I believe they take visa cards :flower: sometimes they require an account.
 
0258 said:
hello
i'm from middle east and iwanna buy some handbags from ebay but what do they mean by Payment methods:PayPal can i buy from this site by my VISA??


Merged with eBay thread. 0258 please use the search function prior to posting. You may also want to enable the private message feature.
 
About credit cards, how does the actual payment work. My mom finally allowed me to purchase something off eBay since she's home for vacation and can pick up the order, so I thought it would be a hassel to create a paypal account and use it only once or twice... though, I heard it was a bit more safer. So, my first question is how is it safer? And also, when I use a credit card, and I win the auction does the seller automactically get the payment?

I really have very little clue how the transaction works. Though it may not be important, I just want to know for the sake of it... The only thing I ever bought was a textbook less than a year ago, but I completely forgot about it. I didn't even leave feedback :innocent:, and forgot my account name and password.

BTW, I've read the entire thread and there's some really helpful information here. ^_^ Any answers would be appreciated. :flower:
 
LoveMyBoots said:
About credit cards, how does the actual payment work. My mom finally allowed me to purchase something off eBay since she's home for vacation and can pick up the order, so I thought it would be a hassel to create a paypal account and use it only once or twice... though, I heard it was a bit more safer. So, my first question is how is it safer? And also, when I use a credit card, and I win the auction does the seller automactically get the payment?

I really have very little clue how the transaction works. Though it may not be important, I just want to know for the sake of it... The only thing I ever bought was a textbook less than a year ago, but I completely forgot about it. I didn't even leave feedback :innocent:, and forgot my account name and password.

BTW, I've read the entire thread and there's some really helpful information here. ^_^ Any answers would be appreciated. :flower:

If I were you, I would set up a PayPal account. It's the easiest and safest way to pay the seller with a credit card. If the seller is an individual, I think it might be the only way to pay with a credit card. Sometimes if the seller is a business, then you can pay with a cc, but it'd still be safer with PayPal (since than they never see your cc number). There's no fees for you, and I really don't remember it being too much of a hassle to sign up. :unsure:
Read the auction desciription, and then when you win you will know what you are supposed to do. Some sellers will need you to contact them, some will automatically send you the bill. If the aution has the S&H amount stated, and doesn't say anything about contacting them before paying, then you can go ahead and pay them after winning. I don't think there's any system that pays automatically. Although it does sound rather nice...:innocent:
Feel free to let me know if I wasn't too clear on anything.
 
Ebay def enhanced my wardrobe.It's fun to own clothing/shoes/accessories most people in your enviroment doesn't have/wear.I'm on Ebay for 2 years now and only had one or two problems with sellers.The key is looking for auctions who show actual pictures of the item.And a clear description of the terms of shipment etc.
 
That article is riduclous its amazing how stupid ppl are when it comes to telling real or not if your buying this seasons designer bag ant less then half the price its gonna be fake. Fendi spy for $200 come on! Or in cases that your are getting an authentic great deal(which Is possible) Do some research an know what your are buying
 
Has anyone ever bought anything from Vendio? They have some seemingly designer clothing, but I doubt its authenticity :huh:
 
Annabel said:
Has anyone ever bought anything from Vendio? They have some seemingly designer clothing, but I doubt its authenticity :huh:

I think Vendio is just an image hosting site....I don't think they're an actual seller. :flower:
There is a thread for finding out if clothing is authentic:
http://www.thefashionspot.com/forums/f46/official-authentic-thread-11807-17.html?highlight=authentic

And there's another one for purses too: http://www.thefashionspot.com/forums/f56/bag-fake-authentic-no-ebay-links-27655-244.html
 

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