The Fashion Spot Top 50 Models F.K.A. Top 75

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  1. Thread Manager

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    This is a continuation thread, the old thread is [split]61919[/split]
     
  2. Mr-Dale

    Mr-Dale Unveil Yourself....

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    I was bored last week and decided to do my own rankinglist of the best models in the industry. I thought I might as well post it here and I hope that someone will apprecaite my hard work :P Here's what I did, I constructed a point-system which gives the girls a certain ammount of points for a certain job. For instance, a Vogue Italia cover is 40 points and a campaign for Prada with more than one girl would be 35 points, etc etc (if you wanna see the whole point-system, PM me)
    So then I decided that the work of the 4 past months should be incorporated, so I looked for every magazine in our Magazines section from August to November, searched for the reviews or scans and see what models are in or on it and then give the girls points. Same for all the F/W 0708 ads and runway showlists. After a LOT of work, I combined the points for August, September, October, November, FW 0708 ads and SS 08 runway and came to the following conclusions for November. For a December list, all the August points will disappear and the December ones will added, etcetera. Oh and I decided to do 75 girls, because 50 girls didn't cover some girls that I thought needed to be on a list such as this one and 100 would've been too much (plus the MDC top 50 has 74 models on the list, so yeah)

    I hope this will start some discussion or something...on things that happen to stand out (like Coco is number one and not Gemma or Sasha, or that the highest ranked non-caucasian is ranked at only 41, everyone is Russian, or whatever :P )

    PS: A special thanks to Faith for making all the runwaylists she made available to all of us! :D

    How the list is made:

    Magazinecovers

    Vogue US OG: 50
    Vogue US MG: 40
    W, Numero, V Magazine, Vogue UK, Paris, Italia OG: 40
    W, Numero, V Magazine, Vogue UK, Paris, Italia MG : 30
    ID Magazine, POP Magazine OG: 30
    ID Magazine, POP Magazine MG, Vogue China, Nippon, Russia, Germany: 25
    Other Vogue editions OG, French Revue de Modes : 20
    Other Vogue editions MG: 15
    Other magazines: 15
    Supplement covers : magazine’s worth minus 10

    Magazine editorials

    Numero, V Magazine, Vogue Paris, Italia OG: 30
    Numero, V Magazine, Vogue Paris, Italia MG : 25
    Vogue US, UK, ID Magazine, POP Magazine, W OG : 25
    Vogue US, UK, ID Magazine, POP Magazine, W MG : 20
    Other Vogue editions, Other seasonal magazines, Harper’s Bazaar US: 15
    Other magazines: 10
    Supplement editorials: magazine’s worth minus 10
    Multiple editorials in one magazine: 5
    Reprints: 5

    Beauty or perfume advertisements

    L’Oreal, Maybelline, Estee Lauder etc contracts: 50
    L’Oreal, Maybelline, Estee Lauder etc ads: 35
    High fashion perfume: 30
    High fashion beauty: 20
    Other brands: 10

    Fashion advertisements

    Only-girl big high fashion brands: 40
    Multi-girl big high fashion brands: 30
    Medium high fashion brands: 25
    Commercial big fashion brands: 20
    Commercial or small high fashion brands: 10
    Big commercial brands: 7

    Runwayshows

    Over 70 shows in one season: 50
    Over 60 shows in one season: 40
    Over 50 shows in one season: 30
    Over 40 shows in one season: 20
    Over 30 shows in one season: 10
    Over 20 shows in one season: 5
    Vicotoria’s Secret: 5
    Shows from the big ones*: 5
    Opening or closing: 2

    Exclusivity

    Prada/MiuMiu, Calvin Klein: 20
    Photographers: 20
    Marc Jacobs/Marc by Marc, Balenciaga, Jil Sander: 15
    Other brands: 10
    Magazines: 10

    Other:

    Buzz or hype: 15
    Paris runway explosion: 10
    Style.com or Models.com top ten: 10
    Models.com Top 50: 10
    Upcoming big time ad, cover or ed: 5

    * Big ones per city:

    New York:
    • Marc Jacobs
    • Marc by Marc Jacobs
    • Calvin Klein
    • Oscar de la Renta
    • Proenza Schouler
    Milan:
    • Prada
    • Jil Sander
    • Gucci
    • Versace
    • Dolce & Gabbana
    Paris :
    • Balenciaga
    • Christian Dior
    • Louis Vuitton
    • MiuMiu
    • Chanel
    • Lanvin
    • Givenchy
    • Yves Saint Laurent
    • Alexander McQueen
    • Valentino
     
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  3. littlekiki

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    Top 50 Models (May 23, 2015)

    50. Alisa Ahmann (-2)
    49. Ondria Hardin (-10)
    48. Candice Swanepoel (+1)
    47. Abbey Lee Kershaw (same)
    46. Karolin Wolter (same)
    45. Mica Arganaraz (returned)
    44. Eniko Mihalik (debut)
    43. Georgia May Jagger (-5)
    42. Aya Jones (-5)
    41. Vanessa Axente (+1)
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    40. Miranda Kerr (+3)
    39. Carolyn Murphy (+1)
    38. Amanda Murphy (-4)
    37. Lindsey Wixson (+13)
    36. Sam Rollinson (-:cool:
    35. Liya Kebede (same)
    34. Ine Neefs (-2)
    33. Bianca Balti (returned)
    32. Doutzen Kroes (+9)
    31. Maartje Verhoef (-2)
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    30. Natalia Vodianova (same)
    29. Karmen Pedaru (-3)
    28. Gigi Hadid (-5)
    27. Nadja Bender (-7)
    26. Sasha Pivovarova (+7)
    25. Jourdan Dunn (+2)
    24. Vanessa Moody (-2)
    23. Toni Garrn (+2)
    22. Grace Hartzel (+9)
    21. Freja Beha Erichsen (-2)
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    20. Isabeli Fontana (+4)
    19. Edita Vilkeviciute (+2)
    18. Cara Delevingne (-:cool:
    17. Josephine Le Tutour (same)
    16. Emily Didonato (+2)
    15. Lexi Boling (-3)
    14. Julia Bergshoeff (-3)
    13. Karlie Kloss (+1)
    12. Kendall Jenner (+3)
    11. Daria Werbowy (+5)
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    10. Gisele Bundchen (+3)
    9. Andreea Diaconu (-1)
    8. Julia Nobis (-1)
    7. Lara Stone (+2)
    6. Natasha Poly (-3)
    5. Adriana Lima(same)
    4. Anna Ewers (same)
    3. Sasha Luss (+3)
    2. Binx Walton (same)
    1. Joan Smalls (same)


    Returned
    Mica Arganaraz
    Bianca Balti

    Debut
    Eniko Mihalik

    Removed
    Catherine McNeil
    Nastya Sten
    Natalie Westling

    Biggest Changes
    Lindsey Wixson (+13)
    Ondria Hardin (-10)​


    Let me know if anyone has any questions... big changes are about to happen with the new campaigns coming out soon!

    Yay, new thread!
     
  4. GreyVetiver

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    With the amazing covers that Vogue Australia has produced lately (except for Kim K and Gigi Hadid,) I genuinely think that models who get Vogue Australia deserve more points.
     
  5. littlekiki

    littlekiki Well-Known Member

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    ^I've been considering that. Also, just to be clear, I don't use the original points system that Mr. Dale used.
     
  6. congacon

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    vogue paris cover for example worth 40 points while vogue paris editorial worth 30 points.....this make no sense. absolutely no sense!

    if vogue paris cover worth 40 points then vogue paris editorial worth 15 points at most. a vogue paris can make a huge difference in a model's career ..........not editorial.

    after anna ewers and andrea scored vogue paris covers their career took off. the same thign cannot be said about any editorial. no wonder why joan is on the top of the list.

    a vogue cover should worth at least 4- 5X more points than a vogue editorial.
     
  7. littlekiki

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    ^Like I said, I use my own points system completely separate from Mr. Dale's. That post is from years and years ago. This is a continuation thread. I'm doing my own thing completely separate from whatever Mr. Dale was doing.
     
  8. alonsoJonathan

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    do you mind sharing how you been adding points by the work of the models? By I also don't understand how Joan is number one with no major covers or ad campaigns.

    I mean is sure she is top 5 but number one?
     
  9. littlekiki

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    At this moment, I'm looking into revamping how I score. I'm currently rescoring all the models and I'll post as soon as I'm done. With the way I'm rescoring, Joan is not #1.

    However, Joan does have major campaigns (Marc Jacobs, H&M, Balmain, Prabal), plus the Estee Lauder contract.
     
  10. alonsoJonathan

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    Yeah. But none of them are A list campaigns.
    Marc Jacobs and balmain might be B-list And besides she is not OG campaigns.

    back then I think we all agree on the top 1 brands. (Chanel, dior, Gucci, Calvin Klein, Prada, LV and Burberry) were top 1 since those brands are more exclusive and their campaigns are always in all the major magazines.

    But then all those houses have had major changes in the past years.

    Also HM is not as exclusive or high fashion house as the rest but they always have their campaigns on all the magazines also they always used top models.
     
  11. littlekiki

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    I'd agree that those are the top brands. I'd also include Marc Jacobs, Saint Laurent, Balenciaga, Jil Sander, Versace, Alexander Wang, Valentino, Givenchy, Hermes, Lanvin, and Alexander McQueen in terms of campaigns.
     
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    So this is what the list looks like without older models included among the current models. If this is what you prefer, let me know! I'm compiling and scoring these lists for you guys. This list is also with the revamped scoring to give a little more weight to covers and campaigns.

    Top 50 Models (May 26, 2015)
    50. Melina Gesto
    49. Martha Hunt
    48. Sui He
    47. Ola Rudnicka
    46. Soo Joo Park
    45. Alexandra Elizabeth
    44. Dylan Xue
    43. Xiao Wen Ju
    42. Valery Kaufman
    41. Marloes Horst
    40. Ming Xi
    39. Suki Waterhouse
    38. Solveig Mork Hansen
    37. Monika Jagaciak
    36. Alisa Ahmann
    35. Daphne Groeneveld
    34. Mica Arganaraz
    33. Nastya Sten
    32. Crista Cober
    31. Sara Sampaio
    30. Ondria Hardin
    29. Antonina Petkovic
    28. Vittoria Ceretti
    27. Lindsey Wixson
    26. Natalie Westling
    25. Karolin Wolter
    24. Tilda Lindstam
    23. Sam Rollinson
    22. Edie Campbell
    21. Amanda Murphy
    20. Maartje Verhoef
    19. Grace Hartzel
    18. Aya Jones
    17. Gigi Hadid
    16. Vanessa Axente
    15. Hana Jirickova
    14. Ine Neefs
    13. Vanessa Moody
    12. Nadja Bender
    11. Georgia May Jagger
    10. Lexi Boling
    9. Emily Didonato
    8. Julia Bergshoeff
    7. Josephine Le Tutour
    6. Cara Delevingne
    5. Kendall Jenner
    4. Julia Nobis
    3. Sasha Luss
    2. Anna Ewers
    1. Binx Walton
     
  13. sore

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    ^ nah, doesn't make any sense to me at all.

    first of all, how do you judge if somebody is an 'older' model? Karolin Wolter has been around for a long time, but made a come back a couple of season ago. Isn't she as 'old' as models who never completely faded from the same era though? (Looking at your list, Andreea Diaconu, Toni Garrn, Karlie Kloss etc. come to mind.)

    Also, I think what makes your list special and a lot better than the pseudo-lists MDC does, is that you were ranking models according to their actual work in a given time, no matter how long they have been around or what level of fame they have already reached.

    Stick to the old system, if you ask me!
    (On a different note, I would appreciate seeing your grading system, too!)
     
  14. littlekiki

    littlekiki Well-Known Member

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    Okay cool, thanks for the feedback! I really appreciate it. That does make sense, and I do like that certain aspect about my list.

    I can post the system, but I know it's not going to fit everyone's wants or needs or thoughts on how it should be scored, so I'd rather send it individually to people if they so desire it.
     
  15. alonsoJonathan

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    You should just posted here so we can all discuss it.
     
  16. littlekiki

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    Top 50 Models (June 6th, 2015)

    50. Caroline Trentini
    49. Candice Swanepoel
    48. Ondria Hardin
    47. Gigi Hadid
    46. Daphne Groeneveld
    45. Liya Kebede
    44. Behati Prinsloo
    43. Aya Jones
    42. Vittoria Ceretti
    41. Georgia May Jagger
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    40. Lindsey Wixson
    39. Natalia Vodianova
    38. Nadja Bender
    37. Maartje Verhoef
    36. Karolin Wolter
    35. Ine Neefs
    34. Antonina Petkovic
    33. Miranda Kerr
    32. Doutzen Kroes
    31. Bianca Balti
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    30. Isabeli Fontana
    29. Kate Moss
    28. Vanessa Axente
    27. Vanessa Moody
    26. Freja Beha Erichsen
    25. Edie Campbell
    24. Josephine Le Tutour
    23. Grace Hartzel
    22. Sasha Pivovarova
    21. Karmen Pedaru
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    20. Edita Vilkeviciute
    19. Jourdan Dunn
    18. Emily DiDonato
    17. Toni Garrn
    16. Julia Bergshoeff
    15. Lexi Boling
    14. Gisele Bundchen
    13. Kendall Jenner
    12. Sasha Luss
    11. Julia Nobis
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    10. Andreea Diaconu
    9. Karlie Kloss
    8. Cara Delevingne
    7. Joan Smalls
    6. Adriana Lima
    5. Binx Walton
    4. Daria Werbowy
    3. Natasha Poly
    2. Lara Stone
    1. Anna Ewers


    Scoring is revamped. This should be a more accurate representation.

    Also, scoring looks like this for all who care.

    CONTRACTS:
    Blue... 1000
    High End... 800
    Low End... 600

    CAMPAIGNS:
    Models lose 100 points for MG.
    Blue... 1000
    High End... 800
    Moderate... 600
    Low End... 300

    COVERS/EDITORIALS:
    Covers do not gain or lose points for OG or MG.
    Editorials lose 10 points for MG.
    A small feature earns half the editorial points.

    Vogue:
    Italia, Paris, UK, US... 500/150
    Germany, China, Japan... 300/100
    Espana, Brazil, Australia, Russia... 200/75
    Others... 100/50

    W, Numero, Interview... 400/100
    i-D, V, Dazed, Love... 300/75
    Other High End... 100/50
    Other Low End... 25/10

    Elle, HB, Glamour:
    US... 200/75
    UK... 75/25
    Other... 50/10

    Marie Claire/Allure:
    US... 75/25
    Other... 25/10

    Resort/Pre-Fall
    Campaigns: 300
    Lookbooks: 100, 50, 25, 10

    RUNWAY:
    Blue... 10 (O/C +5)
    High End... 6 (O/C +3)
    Low End... 2 (O/C +1)

    Any questions or concerns with scoring, please message me and I'll consider any changes to be made. It's difficult to get an exact representation of what each booking is worth, so any help is appreciated!
     
  17. dsamg

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    I think Vogue Aus is on par with China
     
  18. congacon

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    the new scoring system is much better than before. great work.

    i would switch place between vogue germany and vogue espana. i would give contract more points especially cosmetic contracts with brand names like lancome, estee lauder and l'oreal. the ultimate contract would be cosmetic contract that covers everything from beauty to fragrance.
     
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    I disagree with that..I think the indication for me of how big the Vogues are is how easily available they are on the other side of the world. I live in a small capital city in Aus and it is pretty easy to get Germany in any newsagent, whereas I have never ever seen a copy of Espagne even as an avid magazine collector.

    I agree about the contracts..but does that mean say Constance's contract is bigger than Joan's? As Joan does not do fragrance?
     
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    ^I would give all the Estee Lauder girls the same amount of points.
     

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