Hanne said:angela xx and Meg have you tried MACs new liquidlast liner - those suckers don't budge.. infact you have to take them off w. great care (oily eye make-up remover and q-tips)
hanne, just saw your post now. I haven't tried them but I'm quite new to liquid liner and thought it would be easier for me to apply something with a brush as opposed to the applicator. My only complaint about the fluidlines is there is no dark brown. There is a brown but I find it quite light so I wear black, even though it's a bit harsh.
love it!
But I'm really liking it now ... 
I can't imagine, but I'm gonna try it ...
I have to say, for a practical girl, I am totally seduced by the Lure packaging
and it lasts forever!