The Row - The All-Things The Row Thread

[JohannesL]

Well, I am not surprised at all. With Savile Row, you get what you pay for! But The Row eventually is a niche brand. If rich people want their version of Uniqlo, they always have Hermes. IMO, there is no way that The Row can ask for a price that it has no prestige/heritage to back up!

 

[GIVENCHYlover]

^ “It’s about discovering who you are, rather than who you might want to be”

 

[Drusilla_]

it's now the brand for substack fashion victims who convince themselves they'll get some of MKA's style by osmosis by buying the Margaux or $900 jelly sandals.

 

[PDFSD]

Well, I am not surprised at all. With Savile Row, you get what you pay for! But The Row eventually is a niche brand. If rich people want their version of Uniqlo, they always have Hermes. IMO, there is no way that The Row can ask for a price that it has no prestige/heritage to back up!

to be factual hermes is far from plane like Uniqlo its verry logo and iconography (horses saddles links H´s etc tec) integrated in every product design.

The Row is more true to the comparison to Uniqlo fabric & cut /proportion all plain no bs besides t shirts with prints or occasional colab print

 

[Monsieur Cristobal]

Last Saturday I was at Loewe and the men's collection was beyond banal. I repeat: Loewe.

Given the comatose state of conglomerate fashion, I decided to give props to independent projects, like The Row.

Is their fashion groundbreaking?
No.
But their quality is insane.
Kudos to a house born 20 years ago that wants to give you Hermès excellence.

 

[PDFSD]

Last Saturday I was at Loewe and the men's collection was beyond banal. I repeat: Loewe.

Given the comatose state of conglomerate fashion, I decided to give props to independent projects, like The Row.

Is their fashion groundbreaking?
No.
But their quality is insane.
Kudos to a house born 20 years ago that wants to give you Hermès excellence.

honestly Hermes misses what The Row has in sense of more relaxed non logo luxury estetic

i like the colors and leather and the quality you can find at Hermes but it's hard to find grown up luxury like the Row has without a logo or horse or something branded.

past there was a balance of wimsical and branded versus hard core luxury simple elegance at Hermes now its kind of loud luxury

 

[tourbillions]

Last Saturday I was at Loewe and the men's collection was beyond banal. I repeat: Loewe.

Given the comatose state of conglomerate fashion, I decided to give props to independent projects, like The Row.

Is their fashion groundbreaking?
No.
But their quality is insane.
Kudos to a house born 20 years ago that wants to give you Hermès excellence.

first not sure why you are in loewe for menswear... and what that has to do with the row who barely makes menswear...

insane quality is bare minimum for the prices the row is asking these days.

Go to maxmara and tods, now thats excellence.

 

[Monsieur Cristobal]

I go to Loewe menswear because I am a man 🤣

Tod's shoes must be good, Prada's are.
Thanks for the advice 😉

 

[Monsieur Cristobal]

Sorry, I mistook Tod's for Church's 😅🤣

 

[j02215]

honestly Hermes misses what The Row has in sense of more relaxed non logo luxury estetic

i like the colors and leather and the quality you can find at Hermes but it's hard to find grown up luxury like the Row has without a logo or horse or something branded.

past there was a balance of wimsical and branded versus hard core luxury simple elegance at Hermes now its kind of loud luxury

I think it depends on your local Hermes store - each one of them select their own stocks. Tons of well balanced offerings in NYC and Paris.

I do not think you can compare the two - Hermes provides a much wider and deeper breathes of offerings for clients of various lifestyles, whereas the Row’s vision is much more singular (i.e., ladies who lounge and enjoy looking at potteries).

 

[tourbillions]

I go to Loewe menswear because I am a man 🤣

Tod's shoes must be good, Prada's are.
Thanks for the advice 😉

i meant... loewe's menswear isnt really good 😁

 

[PDFSD]

I think it depends on your local Hermes store - each one of them select their own stocks. Tons of well balanced offerings in NYC and Paris.

I do not think you can compare the two - Hermes provides a much wider and deeper breaths of offerings for clients of various lifestyles, whereas the Row’s vision is much more singular (i.e., ladies who lounge and enjoy looking at potteries).

i know i travel allot i see more regions even airport stores i check out if i have time , i have even a friend that is store manager in apac and know of the buying needs for regions and i still hold this observation it's very branded hermes more than ever .....h´s or other house symbols are interwoven on everything in a visible way. its very cartoony luxury

there was no comparison for me, it was about one could have more of what the other is offering as they did in the past that's all, i still love and shop at Hermes but its a task to have thing without some sort of funny logo or design.

i never bought The Row yet ! i tried but i have already other classic brands that give me what i would buy at The Row for less coins for now.

i have many friends that do wear the row male and female i do enjoy seeing people in it more than hermes RTW for everyday life, as classic and boring teh row can be people then to wearing or put more effort top effortless elegant and modern whereas hermes wearing folks are more on the stuffy side and then to be middle of the road

of course both brands have the gallery ladies and lunch ladies lets not pretend that rich people don't have uniform lives and tribes .

 

[alwaysademo]

Rick talks about The Row (he got a purse )

 

[vetements]

i know i travel allot i see more regions even airport stores i check out if i have time , i have even a friend that is store manager in apac and know of the buying needs for regions and i still hold this observation it's very branded hermes more than ever .....h´s or other house symbols are interwoven on everything in a visible way. its very cartoony luxury

there was no comparison for me, it was about one could have more of what the other is offering as they did in the past that's all, i still love and shop at Hermes but its a task to have thing without some sort of funny logo or design.

i never bought The Row yet ! i tried but i have already other classic brands that give me what i would buy at The Row for less coins for now.

i have many friends that do wear the row male and female i do enjoy seeing people in it more than hermes RTW for everyday life, as classic and boring teh row can be people then to wearing or put more effort top effortless elegant and modern whereas hermes wearing folks are more on the stuffy side and then to be middle of the road

of course both brands have the gallery ladies and lunch ladies lets not pretend that rich people don't have uniform lives and tribes .

I do like Hermes clothes and perhaps the whole Hermes universe, the whole lifestyle, the French sensibilities but some lines or designs are being over used so much it now becomes the equivalent of bad taste, like the Avalon cushions... but other than that, yes, Hermes is nice.

I think if someone can spin some pieces of the Hermes clothings, with `funny` logos or not, mix and match it with their own styles from other brands, say something from Ann Demeulemeester (the actual designer`s design, not the current one), it can look pretty stylish, instead of looking too serious or frumpy.
Think the problem is, the people who regularly shops at Hermes tend to be the very wealthy who dont want to think too much about styling on a day to day basis cos they are simply not interested or have no time for that sort of thing unfortunately...

 

[tourbillions]

i know i travel allot i see more regions even airport stores i check out if i have time , i have even a friend that is store manager in apac and know of the buying needs for regions and i still hold this observation it's very branded hermes more than ever .....h´s or other house symbols are interwoven on everything in a visible way. its very cartoony luxury

there was no comparison for me, it was about one could have more of what the other is offering as they did in the past that's all, i still love and shop at Hermes but its a task to have thing without some sort of funny logo or design.

i never bought The Row yet ! i tried but i have already other classic brands that give me what i would buy at The Row for less coins for now.

i have many friends that do wear the row male and female i do enjoy seeing people in it more than hermes RTW for everyday life, as classic and boring teh row can be people then to wearing or put more effort top effortless elegant and modern whereas hermes wearing folks are more on the stuffy side and then to be middle of the road

of course both brands have the gallery ladies and lunch ladies lets not pretend that rich people don't have uniform lives and tribes .

i dont know what store you have been going to but i don't see any of the logos in their rtw here (specifically menswear). Atleast the racks i get. Its usually some abstract leather work prints on t shirts, maybe the tiniest of H that you cant even recognize on polos. And ofcourse the leather outerwears/evening wears have no logos at all. I never got the logomania in their rtw and they have kept it quite free of it while keeping the prices not absurd.

I cant with their bags though

 

[Lola701]

Think the problem is, the people who regularly shops at Hermes tend to be the very wealthy who dont want to think too much about styling on a day to day basis cos they are simply not interested or have no time for that sort of thing unfortunately...

I don’t think that Hermes RTW is for the super wealthy. Hermes RTW is classic and bourgeois and a very French kind of bourgeois sensibility. And it’s French, not Parisian.
I think The Row is for the people who are wealthy or who wants to display wealth and don’t want to think about styling or things like that.

In France at least, Hermes has such a « trust contract » with people. You can do no wrong with Hermes. That’s why their pricing is not excessive in RTW. For me the testament of the brand is that I still see grandmothers from time to time in stores looking for a cachemire sweater or a carré. They haven’t outpriced themselves like Chanel for example.

 

[PDFSD]

I don’t think that Hermes RTW is for the super wealthy. Hermes RTW is classic and bourgeois and a very French kind of bourgeois sensibility. And it’s French, not Parisian.
I think The Row is for the people who are wealthy or who wants to display wealth and don’t want to think about styling or things like that.

In France at least, Hermes has such a « trust contract » with people. You can do no wrong with Hermes. That’s why their pricing is not excessive in RTW. For me the testament of the brand is that I still see grandmothers from time to time in stores looking for a cachemire sweater or a carré. They haven’t outpriced themselves like Chanel for example.

for me people in the row are very into styling and curating their live , and the don't show the logo on clothes but they know people that know recognize it and will kindly remind you the swetar is the row at dinner lol.....

 

[vetements]

In France at least, Hermes has such a « trust contract » with people. You can do no wrong with Hermes. That’s why their pricing is not excessive in RTW. For me the testament of the brand is that I still see grandmothers from time to time in stores looking for a cachemire sweater or a carré. They haven’t outpriced themselves like Chanel for example.

I actually really like this idea, there is something about having a `conscience` about it.

 

[Lola701]

for me people in the row are very into styling and curating their live , and the don't show the logo on clothes but they know people that know recognize it and will kindly remind you the swetar is the row at dinner lol.....

In theory but in practice, tbh, I see people trying to fit the Quiet luxury trend.
But I will give you that because I don’t like the work of Nadege and in reality, even if women are drooling over the Birkin/Kelly/Constance/Picotin, despite the reasonable price point, Hermes is not the brand where people go when they want those kind of classics they can style…When it should be.

I have a few pieces from the Gaultier years and while I will admit that I bought them for pure snobism, those pieces are 15+ years old and I can still style them today because the classic, timeless approach of the clothes was there even with the themes. And by watching Gaultier for Hermes shows, I realized why they were better than his own brand and what Nadege and also Lemaire was doing: there was a purity in the cut, no unnecessary details or weird cut.