Trends S/S 05

[softgrey]

a fun little musing on what trends will be going forward...
quick little run through with pictures here...

click on-here's what we came up with...

i am especially amused by the last one...

lalalalalalalala...............

http://nymetro.com/nymetro/shopping/fashio...9656/index.html

 

[purechris]

Very interesting indeed.
The menswear trend is pretty dead on, but it works best when it's made to be quirky (like Miu Miu did). Hollywood glamour is welcome in my book, but give it a new twist.

 

[metal-on-metal]

Originally posted by softgrey@Aug 26 2004, 12:03 PM
i am especially amused by the last one...

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Me, too. Good riddance, Fordypoo. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. I'm so tired of people sobbing and carrying on about Tom leaving. Let's focus on the future and leave that fool in the past where he belongs.

 

[faust]

Originally posted by metal-on-metal@Aug 26 2004, 11:47 AM
Me, too. Good riddance, Fordypoo. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. I'm so tired of people sobbing and carrying on about Tom leaving. Let's focus on the future and leave that fool in the past where he belongs.

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[mikeijames]

interesting little tidbits...i'm still waiting for this whole ladylike/hollywood glamour thing to materialize. i've been out in several cities (but still not the metropole itself, new york) and i still don't see people covering up, polished up, or exuding anything like the trends say they will. this stuff is only followed by very few who only half believe it: i mean florals, eighties, and preppy stuff has BEEN around...the only real change is from sex to not...and i doubt it will happen. it was said we'd see it in the ads, but daria's still in a cutaway gown, diane dundoe's still making bedroom eyes, even lanvin has a girl inching up her skirt against her thighs...

this is all smoke and mirrors.

 

[softgrey]

sweetie...when it's 90 degrees in the shade...do you really expect people to cover up???...

give it a little time...that's for fall...and even though spring collections are about to hit...technically it's still summer...

 

[mikeijames]

Originally posted by softgrey@Aug 26 2004, 12:19 PM
technically it's still summer...

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but don't you remember the much heralded RETURN OF THE SUIT for spring in summer as part of this ladylike thing...i don't and haven't seen women dress like this (from vogue last winter

 

[Spike413]

Make the vintage and ladylike sh*t go away already! It's so bland! Who the hell wants a socialite as their style icon?

I am and probably always will be a lover of sex (reffering to the concept here ) and am totally saddened by this ladylike thing that's been going on for the last few seasons. I think what happened was that the public took the sex of the mid ninties and ran with it pushing every possible boundary until they were left wearing very little and being sleezy rather then sexy.

I'd like a return to a sophisticated sexuality, a balance between visually sexual and mentally sexual as well. Less bare ***es and more to the imagination. Think the women of Helmut Newton's photographs, very sexual looking beings but there was something that held you stimulated in the mind rather then the groin........fashion needs that back, rather then abandon sex, do it intelligently.

 

[Lena]

mikejames, you are right but remember, new trends need time to mature
suits were not there but the whole retro mood of the vogue look posted was evident in little things.

from the link softgrey posted, i can see serious research,
i agree hands on with the following

* "For spring-summer 2005, Pascaline Wilhelm, PV’s fashion director, says: “The dominant themes at February’s fair were Fantasy Prints and Florals. There was A Lot Of Color. It was very re-miniscent of the Fifties, but it’s been redesigned somewhat. And the Eighties are going to be important for color and fabric sway. We’ll see a little bit of Metallic Blue and Yellow and Green.”
> currently designing on blue/green/black combo
* “Clients are asking for Huge Necklaces and Brooches. It’s very Belle Epoque–ish and taken from the Dior couture show, which was completely Glitzy and Baroque. It was very Bonfire of the Vanities.”

* "At the Rizzoli Bookstore, the dominant theme among the best-sellers is classic Hollywood Glamour. It’s also been shifting a lot of books on etiquette. The biggest title for the last two months has been Ultimate Style, Bettina Zilkha’s tribute to the late Eleanor Lambert and her famous Best Dressed List. Also moving: Eliot Elisofon’s Hollywood Life, which details the homes of classic movie stars like Rock Hudson and Henry Fonda, and director Cecil B. de Mille; How to Be Lovely: The Audrey Hepburn Way of Life, by Melissa Hellstern; Beaton Portraits, a retrospective of the late Vogue photographer Cecil Beaton’s classic shots of Hepburn, Grace Kelly, and Marlene Dietrich; and The House in Good Taste, a book on Manners by the late socialite Elsie de Wolfe."
"There’s no question that The Aviator, Martin Scorsese’s biopic of legendary recluse Howard Hughes, will be a fashion bonanza when it opens in December. Cate Blanchett, who plays Katharine Hepburn, has been booked for the December cover of Vogue. Elle has already signed on to sponsor the film’s premiere, and W is planning a “significant” tribute to the costumes in the film. Stills of Blanchett and Gwen Stefani (who plays Jean Harlow) are already popping up all over the Internet, and recent fashion history shows that designers are less interested in the content of a film than in its costume and design. They don’t need to see it to be influenced by it. "
Hollywood is a huge -but reworked - influence, absolutely no question about this
* "Melanie Ward, a creative director at Helmut Lang, is also a senior fashion editor at Harper’s Bazaar and says there will be no tectonic shifts in fashion next season.“Last season, we saw a very conservative look. There were Fifties influences everywhere. Skirts were longer, the styles were more uptight. That’s going to continue for spring. I don’t anticipate a lot of body-conscious, sexy clothes. I think there’s still a big impulse to Make Things Prettier.” Katie Grand, the editor-in-chief of Brit magazine Pop, who also styles for Prada and Miu Miu, says, “I’ve been plowing through old Sherlock Holmes and Coronation Street,” a British soap opera. “The references are sort of obscure for me at the moment, but there’s something very interesting about Working-Class Britain in the early sixties. It’s just rich with texture and shape. My father also gave me a couple of books on Joan Crawford and Bette Davis, so that’s floating around as well.”
* "The men's shows take place two months before the women's and so sometimes provide clues about the direction of a season. According to both Ward and Jim Moore, creative director of GQ, the main theme ws "preppy," but with a twist. " everything will be with a big twist, nothing is litteral
* " “In times of political crisis, designers often return to femininity and fantasy,” says Andrew Bolton, associate curator at the Costume Institute. “Just before WWII broke out, you had Elsa Schiaparelli at her height. Even Chanel, who was much more minimal and pared-down, became more fanciful toward the end of the thirties. We’ve seen a similar thing over the last few seasons, with people looking at clothes as a form of Escapism. This doesn’t mean they’re disengaged from politics, but it does indicate there’s a desire for an escape with the clothes they’re wearing.” thats so true.
* "Good-bye, Tom Ford. Disco is out; socialites and old-world movie stars will be back in fashion"

Very interesting article, thanks for bringing this in softG.

 

[KitKat]

hmm, where I'm living right now, women are dressing more in that direction. They are more covered up, colors play an important role. The whole feel is more pretty,powdery & feminine. The round-toe & bow-ties don't seem to be too popular yet, they're in the shops, but on feet you still see mainly pointy toes. Accessoires tend to be bright. Silver is still preferred. The eighties vibe is also still present, but cargos seem to have run their course.. I'm only saying what I've seen people in my area wearing... Tiny underarm bags are still preferred by many, I haven't seen many big slouch bags yet. Pleated skirts, converse and leggings, but the pure sportswear look isn't really that big. The Ugg trend is just starting here, I'm sure in other/big cities it's already there, but in general it's just starting. From what I've seen, they're still being eyed with suspicion. The style they're trying to push here with them (you see it in catalogues, ads, outfits in stores) is thick socks looking out of Uggs with short skirt, preferably pleated, or cord cargo skirt.

 

[KitKat]

In Bergamo,Italy, on the other hand, when I was there this summer, they have a different fashion feel... Watching the passegiatas in the evenings or on Sundays is amazing. There were so many people styled to the max, each one better than the other, it was hard not to stare. All the usual words applied for the atmosphere there in June, pretty, flirty, bright colors everywhere, fun..
I'm picking my memories, but I don't remember that much floaty stuff on women, except for hippie skirts. In general, it was more jeans white or blue, cropped, skinny, seldom baggy (except for guys, and then I wouldn't say baggy, but very loose), distressed. Skirts -every kind of skirt, and everything else every color under the sun. Round toe ballerinas everywhere, usually in bright colors. Loads of belts, every which way, bracelets and bangles. Ethnic stuff was popular, sold from the street by the 'marocchini' - illegal african immigrants. Many were wearing bracelets, rings, belts or necklaces from them. Gold jewelry. Big bags. Some eighties hints, but a distinct 2004 feel. Women - perfect make-up and skin. ALL ages. I'm writing it like that, b/c where I am now, there's a sharp divide. Hair was kept 'natural', the just out of bed look was everywhere, nothing too obviously styled.
Total sportswear look wasn't too popular there either, nor the hip-hop look. Hardly saw anyone wearing that direction - men were just as styled as women. They also wore lots of ethnic, leather bracelets, usually several, leather neck strings, silver rings. And the usual black t-shirt with gray suit pants a lot. Shoes were quality. Italians love their leather. Oh and lots of Pollini bags, but that's probably because Pollini is from Bergamo. That was in June, and during the evening and Sunday strolls though, where everyone comes out to see and be seen. Don't know what they are wearing now. During the week/daytime it was everyday wear, although in general, still better than where I am now.

I know I wrote too much , and I'm sorry everybody, I even broke the post up, but I could go on forever, it was so beautiful. Wish I could live there, but real-life life in Italy is a pain in the behind.

 

[Lena]

great posts KitKat welcome to tFS,
where are you based if you dont mind ?
do we live in the same city ?

(if only i could spell..)

 

[mikeijames]

Originally posted by Lena@Aug 26 2004, 02:34 PM
mikejames, you are right but remember, new trends need time to mature
suits were not there but the whole retro mood of the vogue look posted was evident in little things.

from the link softgrey posted, i can see serious research,
i agree hands on with the following
Very interesting article, thanks for bringing this in softG.

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all i'm saying is...there's a bit of disconnect between what the magazines are touting as the next big thing and how it actually appears on the street. i, of course, expect stylists and editors and storekeepers to say they see this stuff, they're in the business of moving the line, i just don't think it's moving quite as rapidly as people predicted...we've been talking about the onset of ladylike dressing since LAST year.

and we don't live in the forties anymore, it doesn't take a long time for trends to develop: heels with jeans; dresses over jeans; colorful accessories. we went a couple of seasons and everyone had thrown away their black kate spades and black pradas and traded them in for bright leather. we went from seriously boot cut EVERYTHING to cropped...in about the same about of time.

i may be wrong, but i just don't see it developing...

 

[KitKat]

What I'm trying to say with this post that won't end , is that maybe the way people will really wear these trends is by following the mood of these trends, not wearing complete outfits, but just setting accents here and there, or taking the mood and creating something individual... And in that case, people are already following/creating these trends here. And maybe where you are, they are too? Just giving a different spin on it? What are people really wearing mainly where you are? That would also be interestingfor me to hear ...

 

[Lena]

i'll say this again, trends need time to mature in public
and like KitKat just posted, it's not the total look, its an accessorie here and there, the choice of colours or little details, its the mood that matters and on the mood, i can see this evolving.

fashions dont change from one season to the next, they need time and continuity... (sp?)

btw, i'm based in Athens, sounds a lot like the moods kit kat was describing
(a mix of her base & bergamo both in one)

 

[KitKat]

Originally posted by Lena@Aug 26 2004, 09:54 PM
get posts KitKat welcome to tFS,
where are you based if you dont mind ?
are we living in the same city ?

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I know, I'm sorry, I take forever to get something across and I'm sorry for clogging this up, I'm quiet now.

 

[mikeijames]

Originally posted by KitKat@Aug 26 2004, 03:02 PM
What I'm trying to say with this post that won't end , is that maybe the way people will really wear these trends is by following the mood of these trends, not wearing complete outfits, but just setting accents here and there, or taking the mood and creating something individual... And in that case, people are already following/creating these trends here. And maybe where you are, they are too? Just giving a different spin on it? What are people really wearing mainly where you are? That would also be interestingfor me to hear ...

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i hear what you're both saying but this onslaught of the ladylike was not predicted to be a little change in how most women dress...vogue said it was the new milennium way of dressing...of COURSE, people are going to take cues from some of the stuff on runway...i've never realized how much fashion you can pack into the simple choice of your winter gloves (i'll be wearing blue suede this winter instead of my standard black leather)...but i don't think everyone jumped or is jumping or will jump on this bandwagon...do you remember grunge? it did not take years and years for that to happen....it was like a couple of months. the same with the vampy tom ford sexpot. it was maybe a season or two and EVERYONE was dressing that way.

 

[mikeijames]

Originally posted by Lena@Aug 26 2004, 03:06 PM
btw, i'm based in Athens, sounds a lot like the moods kit kat was describing
(a mix of her base & bergamo both in one)

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i will defer and say that the moods across the pond might be slightly more sophisticated than the ones i see everyday in the US. i mean...i'm not trying to be stubborn, there's just really no evidence of it here...

 

[Lena]

so kitkat, where are you from?
where are you based?

 

[KitKat]

But fashion and being able to follow trends also has to do with the economy... and I've heard, I don't know, about the economic situation in the States right now, and if it's anything like here, it's not good. People aren't buying as much anymore, in general, they seem to be pickier (here). What I have also noticed in stores like H&M, is they have lowered their prices, but also their quality, which wasn't good before, but ok. But now their quality is horrible... But the prices are low. Maybe it's also an economic problem right now for many to follow trends?

Right now I'm in Ramstein, Germany. I'm not military though - I just work there. Greece..still have to go..