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Finally,I saw decorate it that a Korean model alone covered American Vogue.
I'm so proud and cool.
Asian superstar!
I'm so proud and cool.
Asian superstar!
When will Anna retire? I think Vogue in general just need someone new at the top. Its not like Conde Nast is making as much profits as it did in the past.Franca Sozzani was so ahead of her time. Her Fei Fei cover came in a very unexpected moment in culture as she did with the Black Issue and Curvy Issue. She was the real visionary here. Everything Anna didn't make, Franca did it first because she was open minded and she wanted a change in society. The more I see this moves from Anna, more I love Miss Sozzani.
Don't want to be morbid or anything but I think it's a Karl/Chanel type of situation we're looking at here.When will Anna retire? I think Vogue in general just need someone new at the top. Its not like Conde Nast is making as much profits as it did in the past.
Wow this makes total sense.Don't want to be morbid or anything but I think it's a Karl/Chanel type of situation we're looking at here.
Anna needs to sell, and there's nothing bad about that. If they don't sell this magazine means the end for them and rest of the Vogue brand. She needs more creativity. She was a close friend of Franca. Anna can take inspiration from her, not doing the same of course, but doing something new and attractive.
You are comparing Apples to Oranges. Anna and Franca may have worked for Vogue, the US and Italy are two drastically different markets.
Best believe Franca would have never expressed herself that way if she was working for Vogue US.
Sensibilities are totally different in those two markets. We would never know what Anna would have done in a different setting. She made some bold decisions at HQ, NY Magazine or Vogue UK and she kind of pushed the US Market into a different aesthetic but her Vogue has a different POV and POR than Franca.
Franca is a bit like Francine Crescent in the 70’s. Most of what was shown in VP in the 70’s and early 80’s would have caused for Mirabella to be fired if she published it in her Vogue.
Franca was more commercial at L'Uomo. Most of her issues were with celebs/personalities. She almost pulled fashion stories, and it was close to American/British magazines. L'Uomo maybe was a better magazine to read than to look for inspiration as her Vogue Italia. I take Franca over Anna though, no one in the last 30 years can be compared to her (maybe a bit Liz Tilberis, but she wasn't in the same place too long as Franca). Anna is commercial, she's the editor of American Vogue, the heart of pop culture. In my last response, knowing the admiration of Anna to Franca, she can take inspiraton from her, but not copying all she did. That was the biggest mistake of most of the Vogue's from 2017 to now, doing their own version of Italian Vogue. When it's literal, is a total disaster. That level is too high and unique, that no one can do it as Franca/Meisel did. Anna and Franca shared Meisel during the 90s and 00s. He did covers for both at the same time. There are clear difference about the market in US and Italy, one more commercial and the other more avant garde. You can say the same about UK with their class and glamour (look at Edward now) and France, with the sensuality as identity. Of course this is almost gone because the global deal is happening, and the woman behind that is Miss Wintour. I tried to say she's not Cruela Devil, not at all. She has problems of adaptation and creativity in current times. She ruled the 90s and early 00s. Her Vogue was the big deal, different but at the same level as the other 3 of the big 4. Since 2014 it's been a disaster. Social media, the new icons, the digital era when no one reads print, destroyed this magazine. I'm pretty sure she's aware about it and she's trying to make a change.You are comparing Apples to Oranges. Anna and Franca may have worked for Vogue, the US and Italy are two drastically different markets.
Best believe Franca would have never expressed herself that way if she was working for Vogue US.
Sensibilities are totally different in those two markets. We would never know what Anna would have done in a different setting. She made some bold decisions at HQ, NY Magazine or Vogue UK and she kind of pushed the US Market into a different aesthetic but her Vogue has a different POV and POR than Franca.
Franca is a bit like Francine Crescent in the 70’s. Most of what was shown in VP in the 70’s and early 80’s would have caused for Mirabella to be fired if she published it in her Vogue.
I total agree with you! But Vogue Italia was killed long time ago with Farneti and even further when Verderi started as creative director. I blame the people from CN that put those two there. But what they did with Alt months ago was criminal.And that's exactly why this centralizing, merging and HOC are a disaster....Not even Edward has the British sensibility for his Vogue but the AW approach....they took the soul and life from the other Vogue's specially Italy and France, two of the biggest european markets...and you see them now and it's nothing...
They are saving money yes, but at what cost? anyway...
Franca was more commercial at L'Uomo. Most of her issues were with celebs/personalities. She almost pulled fashion stories, and it was close to American/British magazines. L'Uomo maybe was a better magazine to read than to look for inspiration as her Vogue Italia. I take Franca over Anna though, no one in the last 30 years can be compared to her (maybe a bit Liz Tilberis, but she wasn't in the same place too long as Franca). Anna is commercial, she's the editor of American Vogue, the heart of pop culture. In my last response, knowing the admiration of Anna to Franca, she can take inspiraton from her, but not copying all she did. That was the biggest mistake of most of the Vogue's from 2017 to now, doing their own version of Italian Vogue. When it's literal, is a total disaster. That level is too high and unique, that no one can do it as Franca/Meisel did. Anna and Franca shared Meisel during the 90s and 00s. He did covers for both at the same time. There are clear difference about the market in US and Italy, one more commercial and the other more avant garde. You can say the same about UK with their class and glamour (look at Edward now) and France, with the sensuality as identity. Of course this is almost gone because the global deal is happening, and the woman behind that is Miss Wintour. I tried to say she's not Cruela Devil, not at all. She has problems of adaptation and creativity in current times. She ruled the 90s and early 00s. Her Vogue was the big deal, different but at the same level as the other 3 of the big 4. Since 2014 it's been a disaster. Social media, the new icons, the digital era when no one reads print, destroyed this magazine. I'm pretty sure she's aware about it and she's trying to make a change.
And that's exactly why this centralizing, merging and HOC are a disaster....Not even Edward has the British sensibility for his Vogue but the AW approach....they took the soul and life from the other Vogue's specially Italy and France, two of the biggest european markets...and you see them now and it's nothing...
They are saving money yes, but at what cost? anyway...
A bit out of topic but I love this statement. Perfectly epitomizes what Conde Nast is doing at the moment, and if you don't mind, I'd love to borrow this sentence whenever a budget meeting with a client comes around
I total agree with you! But Vogue Italia was killed long time ago with Farneti and even further when Verderi started as creative director. I blame the people from CN that put those two there. But what they did with Alt months ago was criminal.