12 yr old Dakota Fanning in controversial new film role

[NessaLee]

so she is actually doing full nude shots??? Ummm... okay...

All new articles that I've read on the movie have confirmed that at no time was Dakota nude during filming and there is no nude footage of her.

 

[SweetFantasy]

hmmm...

 

[dizzytacks]

people will see this to see her amazing talent onscreen, but other people will see this for reasons that are wrong.

 

[smartarse]

Looks like they did alot of overnight heavy editing because the parts that caused an uproar before production finished was not part of the final film. So it's really not a big deal then. I guess people are just used to the cutesy Dakota that many dont want to see her in that light..playing a sexual abused ...

 

[Blondes]

I think that the reason why many were so upset by this is that sexual abuse of children is a very controversial and horrible subject. People feel it is so bad they'd rather not think about it and sweep it under the rug. If even those who have never been victims are so ashamed by the subject that they don't dare to touch it, imagine how those who have been through it must feel.

The problem isn't a 12-yearold actress pretending to be raped on screen, the problem is that this happens in real life every day, and I think daring to talk about it and show it in cinemas can help to bring it into the daylight.

 

[mellowdrama]

Bringing things into the daylight doesn't make them go away. Pedophiles aren't vampires, after all.

 

[Blondes]

Bringing things into the daylight doesn't make them go away. Pedophiles aren't vampires, after all.

Oh, please. You know perfectly well what I mean. I thought these forums were above the level of mocking those whos first language is not english for wording things a bit differefntly.

 

[kateelle]

I understood you perfectly Blondes B)

 

[mellowdrama]

No offense, but I wouldn't guess that kateele's second language is English as "bringing things into the daylight" is a trite phrase in English. It's all crap my art teacher in high school used to bring up about psychoanalysis and Freudianism---oh, if you bring things up from the subconscious, you work them out, they go away--as I've already stated months ago, you could have a UN sponsored circle jerk against pedophile r*pe with Oprah Winfrey presiding, and it won't do a thing about preventing r*pe, or getting me or you or whomever unraped. Most people who've been raped, myself included, really don't need to see graphic reenactments of it---I don't want to limit Kampmeier's "Freedom of Expression"...if you read this thread, my argument is aesthetic, not moral. "Consciousness raising" is crap. It's trite and it's a lie. I'd rather it were outright Richard Kern/Lydia Lunch Fingered territory, with Dakota Fanning in the Lung Leg role. At least it would be honest.

 

[mellowdrama]

Argh, actually I meant I wouldn't have guessed "blondes" english was her second language--anyway, what I disagree with is the concept that "bringing to light" , "shining a light", "delving into the depths and hoisting forth a pearl of great price from the ocean's womb", or whatever metaphor you'd care to use to describe the graphic depiction of kiddie r*pe. Despite the milk-delivery boy and Elvis Presley bump-and-grind in Greenville, NC narrative--why not a pizza boy, isn't that the stock p*rn cliche?--no pizza delivery in the 1950's perhaps?--it's still cheesy. I take offense at bringing poor Elvis (Elvis comes cheap these days since the family sold out) and all of the South into this---anyway, seeing a movie about kids getting raped doesn't help the problem of kids getting raped. Like I said, I want to see highbrow, royal kiddie r*pe, New York Intellectual Lisa Steinberg graphic head-bashing--so that I may be uplifted at the end.

And I'm sorry, Dakota's creepy wise-beyond-her-years spiel about how she couldn't turn down the part sounds coached to me. But actors of any age or stripe are an odd bunch to begin with. I don't think Dakota's been victimized in any way more than any other child actor has been--read into that what you like.

Again, no intent to offend. Pop psychology about how "Art Heals (but Money Makes You Feel Better)" makes me want to spew. Cheers!

 

[PrinceOfCats]

Why nobody in Hollywood would touch a Polanski/Geimer biopic with a ten-foot pole; there's something that lives in the dark...

 

[mellowdrama]

^Precisely. Let's not mention the King of Pop. It's always got to be some poor ol' redneck hillbilly hick, complete with Nick Nolte furrowing his brow like mad. As a redneck hillbilly hick myself, I want my cinematic kiddie r*pe to be a little more highfalutin', aspirational, if you will.

 

[Blondes]

Actually I wasn't trying to make a freudian reference or anything like that. I simpy meant that not talking about r*pe and sexual abuse etc. and seeing it as a shameful subject is what makes victims blame themselves, not daring to say anything, and lets the offenders get away and continue abusing others (or the same person).

On the subject of Dakotas well being:
I remember seing an interview with a child actor who had made a movie he or she wasn't old enough to see in the cinema. I think it might have been Dakota and War of the worlds.
Anyhow, she said that they had made parts of the movie without her actualy knowing what it was going to be cut into, since it was too violent or scary for her age.
It is possible that they helped her build this character as well on other associations, without her actually having to analyze "how would I feel if I was being raped", as an adult actor probably would. I hope I am making any sense.

 

[mustard]

does nobody else think that watching a child getting raped is not entertaining!?! Dont we go to the cinema to be entertained??? i find this really disturbing and i don't think a child should get awards for acting out such a disturbing story, i think the fact that Dakota Fanning (or any child ) is doing scenes like this, is exploitation and child abuse. Many child actors have gone off the rails, can you imagine how Dakota might turn out!?!

 

[Blondes]

does nobody else think that watching a child getting raped is not entertaining!?! Dont we go to the cinema to be entertained???

Well, I wasn't exaclty laughing my butt of when I saw Schindlers list, or many other movies that tell tragic stories, either, but that doesn't mean the movies shouldn't have been made.

 

[mustard]

Well, I wasn't exaclty laughing my butt of when I saw Schindlers list, or many other movies that tell tragic stories, either, but that doesn't mean the movies shouldn't have been made.

fair point, but i think this is different imo, this is a child were talking about, i know some great films have been made which are about terrible crimes etc, like Schindllers List, but i think that the fact that its a child that were talking about just makes it wrong.i cant really explain ti properly, i just find it extremely disturbing when i think about what Dakota must have had to do when filming these scenes

 

[modelbehavior228]

I am sorry, but a 12 yr old shouldn't do that, period. Case closed. End of discussion. It is very inapproriate.

 

[VainJane]

No Buyers for Dakota Fanning r*pe Movie

"Hounddog," the simply awful movie in which 12-year-old Dakota Fanning’s character is raped, has no buyers.
"No one wants it after the terrible reviews," one distributor told me, just as we were sitting down to see another disaster, J.P. Schaefer’s "Chapter 27."
Indeed, the people associated with The Weinstein Company, IFC Films and First Look were among those who instantly agreed that they had no interest in "Hounddog."
At this rate, this exercise in bad taste may wind up being a DVD collector’s item. Same thing for "Chapter 27," from which many fled before it ended in the two audiences that have seen it.
Meanwhile, the producers of "Hounddog" trotted out Fanning yesterday to defend the film in places like USA Today and at another press conference.
It’s come to that, apparently. The people who should be answering questions, however, are Fanning’s parents, and the parents of the other children in the film.
Indeed, 12-year-old Cody Hanford, who plays Fanning’s boyfriend in the provocative and poorly written outing, may actually become more of the focus than even the star.
In the film, his character lures Fanning’s into a barn and then watches as she’s raped. Hanford and Fanning also have numerous kissing scenes, some in which they’re half-dressed.
Yesterday, Variety’s Todd McCarthy was one of several reviewers who echoed my complaints about the hoary plot, terrible dialogue and clichés marking every scene.
With the above-mentioned distributors out, it’s unlikely now that any major buyer will take "Hounddog." And that’s just as well, considering that its release is sure to spark more outrage, protests and calls for investigations.
The strange part is that, in the long run, the movie itself is only offensive because it’s so bad. The real culprits aren’t the filmmakers, but the parents of the young actors.
Yesterday I spoke to Joy Pervis, the Atlanta agent who discovered Dakota and her sister, Elle. She’s since signed Cody and Isabelle Fuhrmann, the other child in the film.
Pervis told me she’s basically in favor of the film and trusts the Fannings’ judgment. "They’re a good Christian family," she said.
But plenty of publicists who’ve worked on movies with either Fanning girl have stories about their mother, Joy.
"She’s a real stage mother," one of them said at the screening. "The negotiations just go on and on."
But back to "Hounddog." Since I am one of the few who’ve actually seen it, let me explain something important. There is no point that I can find to the child’s r*pe.
Once it happens, it’s never discussed. The culprit is never accused or apprehended. The child never tells her story to anyone. There’s no great moment of revelation that could possibly help someone who’s watching the film. It’s simply there for shock value.
The fact that Kampmeier and the producers have somehow conned r*pe-assistance groups into using the movie as a public-service announcement is bizarre to me. But I guess it’s no more bizarre than using Dakota Fanning as the public defender of the indefensible.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,246698,00.html

 

[electricladyland]

Meanwhile, the producers of "Hounddog" trotted out Fanning yesterday to defend the film in places like USA Today and at another press conference.http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,246698,00.html

wow, that's disgusting...First she had to be mature enough to the handle r*pe scene, its public screening, audience reaction, and now public outcry?

 

[electricladyland]

Well, I wasn't exaclty laughing my butt of when I saw Schindlers list, or many other movies that tell tragic stories, either, but that doesn't mean the movies shouldn't have been made.

That's a hecka funny line even though i disagree with you. There are all kinds of ways to "bring things to light" and this, in my opinion, is not an appropriate one.