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I mean, I like it, but it sounds like something that would have been on Submarine.
I find it sort of disappointing that these Submarine sounding songs would be on Suck It and See- why couldn't they have just released an extended soundtrack?

I suppose it's taking a new distinct direction like Favourite Worst Nightmare and its EPs took a more Bond route- I feel like this new direction could have been foreshadowed on the Cornerstone EP, maybe?

You do have to admire them for being able to evolve from the sounds off of Whatever People Say I Am That's What I'm Not, but I feel like it's beginning to be less of a group thing and more of a Turner thing.

I'm not sure-- but I definitely do miss being 14 and rocking out to their first demos. ahhh, so long ago. trips me out thinking about it!
 
I won tickets for their live at Lyon next july! I'm uber excited!! Even if the last album didn't excite me like the first two did, and even if I have a bad feeling according to the next one...
 
Monkeys previewed Hellcat Spangled Shalalala, Library Pictures, and Reckeless Serenade live on Jools Holland:

Hellcat Spangled Shalalala:


Library Pictures:


Reckless Serenade:


Finally some rock! Thankfully, I can't handle so much pop. Library Pictures is the only song they've premiered that hasn't made me cringe. I'm warming up to Reckless Serenade a little, despite the first few lines.

Also, as a side note, how do I embed videos in my posts?
 
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Thank you so much! I am already obsessed with Library Pictures, and Hellcats is solid too. I'm way too critical with them because I have such high expectations, even "Don't Sit Down 'cause I've Moved Your Chair" has grown on me like crazy.

Psyched for the album now.

.... Also, I embeded them for you. You copy the string after the youtube = sign. And before it you put [*yt] and after you put [/*yt] Now, take out the *s.

Does that make sense?
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OK fine, we get it Turner- you can do no wrong.

Successfully stoked for the new album.

definitely liking the sound of this album more than Humbug...
 
Thank you so much! I am already obsessed with Library Pictures, and Hellcats is solid too. I'm way too critical with them because I have such high expectations, even "Don't Sit Down 'cause I've Moved Your Chair" has grown on me like crazy.

Psyched for the album now.

.... Also, I embeded them for you. You copy the string after the youtube = sign. And before it you put [*yt] and after you put [/*yt] Now, take out the *s.

Does that make sense?
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Thank you for fixing that! I know, Library Pictures is going to be my new Pretty Visitors, I think. :) It's definitely taking some warming up. I guess I don't mind the poppy tempos so much, but I wish he had let Alex actually write lyrics for his songs... (Blaming James Ford, unjustly, perhaps.)
 
Sorry, that was misleading. I just meant that there aren't many lyrics to begin with in Brick by Brick. He did write them, I'm sure, but I think there was a heavy influence. Alex hinted in the NME article a few pages back that there may have been some pressure from Ford to sound more like the Klaxons, etc.

Also, I'm really prejudice. I have A Choice of Three (short story) in my music library. Hopefully there will be some great b-sides, like Fright-Lined Dining Room and Don't Forget Whose Legs You're On.
 
I'm currently listening to the album and I love it so far! It's definitely a little different than Humbug but it's good nonetheless. If you enjoy vintage-sounding albums, you'll love this one.
 
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finished listening to suck it+see.
my favourite of their's handsdown.

it is such a good balance of hard and soft.

congratulations alex+co.
my 15 year old self is delighted.

found this cute pic on tumblr:
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source: youdrivemeboonanas.tumblr.com
 
Here's one of the first reviews of "Suck it and See" I've seen from MisforMusic which gave it 4 and 1/2 out of 5 stars.

Back in 2005 the Arctic Monkeys were arguably the first internet phenomenon, the first band to truly embrace the power of file sharing and the fact the current generation of fan wanted instant gratification from the music. In a way their attitude was as fresh as the first years of Creation Records, record and get it out to the fans who heard it last night at one of their legendary early gigs, they were a genuine youth movement. Songwriter Alex Turner was just 19 years old, the early songs were written in the moment and spoke directly to the people listening to them and the reason for the Arctic’s success was that Turner was simply a peer to his fans, one of the lads made good, doing the same things, taking the same pills, sleeping with the same girls and converting his life into nuggets of English Musical Heritage that followed the same line as The Smiths, Oasis and The Libertines before them, so no surprise then when the debut containing the majority of the early file shared songs sold 360,000 copies in its first week and became the fastest selling debut record of all time at that point.

Fast forward a few years to 2009’s “Humbug” album and the mindset of the Monkeys early fan base had failed to evolve with the band. They complained that the album recorded in the Mojave desert and produced by Queens Of The Stone Age’s Josh Homme sounded nothing like the debut, well of course it didn’t, the band are totally different to the young scamps that wrote the songs for the first two albums and should be talked about as such instead of what they were. It’s impossible for Alex Turner to write the same type of song as he did when he was 19 because he’s lived a little, travelled more, and experienced more. So another record like the debut was literally out of the question. Only an idiot would think the band could still make such a record. Would The Beatles have made another “Please Please Me” after taking Powers entire supply of LSD, would Alex Ferguson attempt to beat Barcelona with players signed from Kilmarnock and Motherwell, the answer is no, time evolves the mind, a 19 year old can never think like someone say, 40 but a 40 year old can think like a 19 year old because he’s been there, its impossible to turn that round and the unarguable fact is Alex Turner couldn’t have ever written a song as good as “Cornerstone” in 2005 because he didn’t have the mental capacity too nor was he musically educated enough to hear things like The Beach Boys, Burt Bacharach and Scott Walker and then draw inspiration into his own song writing. Listening to the debut record and “Humbug” back to back the difference is vast, the debut sounds like young kids playing at being rock stars, still dreaming, where as Humbug sounds like they ARE rock stars and the dreams been realised.


And so to the new album “Suck It And See”, talked up in some quarters as a return to that debut, which from a personal point of view was an abhorrent thought in my mind, why go backwards? The intricate sound structures of Humbug were to give way to more classic melodic sounding songs, well they were if you read the wrong magazines at least. Thankfully the band haven’t gone backwards and its for that reason that “Suck it And See” is the best record they have ever made and the fans wanting more of the debut haven’t got the musical to evolve with the band.
The only concession to the early songs comes in the form of Turner’s lyrics, there are more first person point of view songs on this album which sees him in brilliant form. Almost a genius of wordplay that may see him being referred to as a modern day Ivor Cutler, many of this album’s lyrics are nonsensical yet make perfect sense in the concept of the record. None more so than on the clumsily titled lead single “Don’t Sit Down Cause I’ve Moved You’re Chair” where tales of ‘going into business with a grizzly bear’ or ‘doing the Macarena in the devils lair’ lead into a chorus traded over a slowed down metallic Peter Gunn riff. He’s on form again in “Black Treacle” inspired by taking inspiration from watching old cowboy movies, ‘Now I’m out of place, and I’m not getting any wiser, I feel like the Sundance kid behind the synthesiser’ Anyone who fails to see humour in Turner’s lyrics on this record hasn’t got a poetic bone in their body.


It’s not all about the words though or Turner’s song writing, the Arctic’s are more than just that. Jamie Cook’s playing has evolved far beyond his years and gives the album a classic feel and Helder’s drumming feels more classical than ever, take this album and bar for the truly atrocious “Brick By Brick” which we’ll rightly ignore, any one of the 12 tracks could easily have fitted onto one of those 60’s Nuggets compilations that everyone has in their collection but never actually listens to, it sounds like how a cult band may sound, but a cult band with an audience of millions waiting to dissect their every move, I guess a modern day peer would be Liam Gallagher, who’s Beady Eye could have rewritten Beethoven’s 9th and it still wouldn’t have been enough for some people. Put simply who the f*ck cares, if these people didn’t like “Humbug” they wont like this record nor are they true fans of the band.


The first two songs mentioned previously for their lyrics are also the scene setters for what follows, “She’s Thunderstorms” written whilst staring out of the window of his New York apartment has a lazy 60’s melody layered guitars and is reminiscent of his work with The Last Shadow Puppets, “Black Treacle” is slightly more jangly, slower paced, and then comes the brilliantly titled ‘The Hellcat Spangled Shalalala’ a Kinks style pop song over a sheet of Klaxons evolving into a song that could concede to their early work yet again sounds more classically structured.


In the middle of the album sit’s the two minute curio “Library Pictures” a cartoon riff bought possibly from ACME but most likely from the Cops speed through a set of lyrics including Turner commenting about a canoe being the first of its kind to reach the moon, on an eenie meanie miny mo, hip **** sh*t rock and roll, quite possibly the first nonsense that came into his head, though it could also be a comment on the rise of the band and some peoples rejection of their later work, because those same file sharers moved on to other things, the sort of ‘music fan’ who wants something new all of the time and isn’t prepared to stick with a band and its evolvement.


The second half of this album is as glorious a set of songs on any record released this year, “Piledriver Waltz” which first aired as a solo number on Turner’s film soundtrack EP “submarine” has been given the full band treatment and opens with a guitar sounding ominously like the riff from “Come Home” by James, in fact Tim Booth’s band guitar sound also echoes on the closing tracks too, especially the wonderfully melodic “That’s Where You’re Wrong” a two chord repetitive riff gelling with the rhythm of LCD Soundsystem’s “All My Friends”.


The title track is a layered Beach Boys type pop song with the best lyric on the album, “that’s not a skirt girl, that’s a sawn off shotgun, and I can only hope you got it aimed at me” leading into a chorus that will stick in your head far more than any song the band have released. “Love Is A Laserquest” was inspired by Turner’s new found appreciation of country music and whilst the music might not reflect that the lyrics are definitely two parts Hank Williams, two parts George Jones and three parts Alex Turner.


In summation, if you want more of the same from that debut record then you might as well go listen to some new eager gobsh*tes on the block like Brother, for whilst that band might not have an ounce of Turner’s skill, or any songs to match their mindset of putting the world to right is what the Monkeys had in 2005, if you want the best out and out pop/rock record of the year with no pre conceived ideas or ridiculous expectations that could never be realised due to the passage of time, then “Suck It And See” is the record to soundtrack your summer.
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And a quick Q&A Alex did with Vanity Fair:

Q&A: Alex Turner of the Arctic Monkeys

Ah, 2006. Osama bin Laden was settling into his million-dollar compound, Lindsay Lohan was still a star, and the idea that a young band could gain a massive following by posting their “mp3s” on the Internet was novel. The media and music industry latched on to Sheffield, England’s Arctic Monkeys as the key group of the new networking. Their debut, Whatever People Say I Am, That’s What I’m Not, became the fastest-selling British debut of all time. Although their Oasis-style American invasion never happened, they remain superstars in England. Front man Alex Turner’s romantic-pop side project (2007’s the Last Shadow Puppets) and a left-field third album recorded with Queens of the Stone Age’s Josh Homme (2009’s Humbug) allowed the band to make peace with their ultra-hyped debut. Their new Suck It and See is a welcome return to sharp, shimmering Britpop that originally placed them as reluctant heroes. Here Turner discusses his career, fame, and moving to New York City.
Marc Spitz: It’s been five years since your New York City debut?

Alex Turner: That’s right. We came over and did a Mercury Lounge show and then added a Bowery Ballroom show.

Because of the frenzied interest. I was one of the journalists there with his arms folded, waiting to see . . .

. . . If it was all it was cracked up to be?

Yes, but I can’t imagine being on your end of that.

It was a weird time. I remember being really excited about going to New York, and it didn’t disappoint. From that very first time I’ve always had a thing for that city.

And then you moved here.

My girlfriend [former MTV presenter Alexa Chung] was offered a job here a couple of years ago, which gave us the impetus to go. I wrote most of the songs for the new album here.

Did you find yourself writing at home or picking up ideas while walking around?

I usually sit around with the guitar in reach and grab it when I get an idea. Sometimes it lasts five minutes, and sometimes it lasts all day. I think New York is a good place to write in general because it’s a grid. It’s organized. You know where you are on the map. That centers you and your imagination is perhaps freer to roam.

I think that’s one of the unsung reasons why so many people can create here, the math.

Obviously there’s chaos if you want it, too.

Any chaos you find in New York can’t compare to England, where the Arctic Monkeys are so much bigger. I don’t think Americans can appreciate how famous you are in the U.K.

It’s quite different. I love playing big festivals and I love that we made a record that got that response from anybody—I’m sort of proud of that first record now.

You weren’t proud of it?

Those were the first 13 songs I ever wrote. I’m bound to be critical of them. I went back and listened to it for the first time in five years.

You hadn’t heard it since 2006?

Not in its entirety, just the odd song here and there.

You made a record with Josh Homme that felt self-consciously different than the sound of the first two.

That record is as important, if not more so, on our journey of getting to where we are right now.

The new album [Suck It and See] has elements of the last record but comes back to the first two as well. People are writing about this record as your return to form, and in only five years. It used to take bands 15 years to do that.

But it feels very natural that we would put out this much music. I don’t know—maybe we’ll talk a longer while off after this record.

Five years ago, you were also the “MySpace band.” That’s what the press embraced as well, how you got huge through file sharing and social networking. Which is now, of course, just second nature to every band, big and small.

That’s sort of a misconception. All we did is kind of write songs and play shows, and hand out a couple of discs. Other people spread them around. We never orchestrated any of that. I’m still not that savvy.
vanityfair
 
Saw them perform last night at Summer Stage in Central Park. They opened with Library Pictures and premiered She's Thunderstorms, but only played a few new songs. Brick by Brick, Hellcat Spangled Shalalala, and Don't Sit Down 'Cause I Moved Your Chair.

I have to admit, though I hate Brick by Brick on the album, they did a good job with it. The most startling revelation is from the fact that almost the entire song is Helders singing, perhaps the reason for the simplicity of the lyrics. The instrumental part is incredible, though. Alex seemed to be having fun with it, he was counting the "rock 'n' rolls" on his fingers during one point. A few of the newer songs seem to not fit in the set list well, bringing the energy down a little to low, but they added a bit of heavy when there were lulls.

They also seemed to really enjoy the show. It's the seventh time I've seen them (I know...) and they were really pleased with the energy. Turner smiled really big twice during the encore when the crowd was singing his lyrics back to him. He tried to hide it the first time, but couldn't the second. Makes me love them even more.

Also, a friend sent me the entire Suck It and See album. Not sure where he got it, didn't ask. It's got quite a few gems on it, actually. And Piledriver Waltz is perfectly Monkey-ed up.
 
^ Thanks for the recap MP!:heart: I'm jealous. And can't wait to hear the Monkeys version of Piledriver.

Alex & Nick discussing hte new album:
 
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^ Oh. My. God.

I wish they'd put out an acoustic album. The amount of youtube acoustic versions I've ripped and risked blowing up my computer is not normal or good.

Absolutely beautiful. Thanks dear :heart:
 

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