Balenciaga blacklists Vogue Paris?

[KhaoticKharma]

If it's true, I can't imagine this being a wise PR move on Balenciaga's part. Vogue Paris is no doubt the most respected Vogue (at the very least it's tied with Vogue Italia for the title), and I think that overall, it's readership (especially internationally) is likelier to buy Balenciaga- everyone I know that takes the time to scavenge for a month old issue of Vogue Paris at Barnes and Noble is much more aware of high fashion than your average Vogue US reader, who is likely to be the type that thinks high fashion models are ugly, the styling is crazy, and Dooney and Bourke is high class. It definitely holds more weight internationally than any other edition, save Italia.

 

[Label Basher]

^ Couldn't have put it better myself. This is what I should have said in my other post. I've always thought VP was very supportive of Nicholas.

Gucci and that's styled by Emanuelle Alt

Mind blown. Really? But it's such a label. This is the first season it's been any good under Frida.

 

[Scott]

well if what you guys say is true,as i haven't looked at VP in a couple years,regarding a lack of reliability in VP,perhaps there is something to that. but it seems a very extreme decision to all-out black list a magazine,imo. i mean no matter how much animosity(or alleged) one has for a publication or editor specifically,they are still press afterall. and they still do reportages on their web site and such.

 

[mikeijames]

it doesn't have anything to do with vogue paris having other favorite brands or else many other editions of vogue (not to mention every other major fashion rag) would find itself on the outs. i hope this gets resolved soon because this hurts the brand image of the house of balenciaga -- ghesquiere has made this a house that (at least, in appearance) rises above all of this petty fashion world stuff.

 

[LePlaisirduMatyr]

Someone said some interesting things at The Cut:

Nicolas ghesquiere banned her because he wants to break away from the whole corrupt system of french vogue. Carine and her team are notoriously selling their 'style' as secret consultancy arranged (in the back of Conde Nast) to many houses and advertisers (Givenchy, Balmain, Marant, Gaultier, max mara, the list is endless) even though they are officially not supposed to that ghesquiere decided something had to be done to stop this system.
...

Condenast is officially banning them to do so. french CN ceo even went on french tv to pretend this was not happening at VP. all consultancies are labelled through the assistants; the same shoots are used to do settings for the magazine as well as ad campaign (hello inez!, hello emmanuelle!, hello daria!) that morroco story in feb issue was the backdrop to both marant and balmain campaigns, models are the same - so i really think this goes beyond bread and butter. it is corruption, conflict of interests, shameful

By Connoisseur

 

[style_expert]

^ I'm not surprised at all and if this is the real reason for Balenciaga banning them, I think it;s a very strong statement and I'm glad someone is making the statement.

Because there's a whole lot of conflicted interests going on at VP

 

[Salvatore]

I love Carine and company, but that does sound like a very corrupt system . Very good I guess !

 

[MulletProof]

I'm more inclined to believe that last quote.. it just makes so much sense.
and then, I gotta say, someone applauded Carine's comment but I just found it kind of low, if Balenciaga is not making any open statement about their relationship with VP, why not keep it diplomatic from her side too? the 'we're blacklisted' comment not only sounds like her gigantic ego was hurt but also like she wants to pass on the blame and victimise her team (or herself). anyway..

 

[BerlinRocks]

It's really fun to read this thing on The Cut, coz I definitely remember the CEO of Condé Nast telling that none of his editors was doing consulting, and I laughed in front of that phrase (it was in a tv documentary about fashion and models, with Babeth Djian among others) ...
BUT I also remember the same CEO during the Vogue Night saying the opposite ...

But yes the editors are indeed forbidden to consult for the brands !

If Nicholas did that, it's indeed smart ...
But why the hell didn't he do it before ??
MA Sauvé's worked for Vogue Paris for approx. 20 yrs ... !!! And she's been working with Carine for like ... almost 10 years ... So I'm sorry but this is .... odd !

But I've heard the girls at the head of VP weren't the nicest ones ...
Anybody remember Ludivine Poiblanc ? and why she left ???
girls fight ... I swear !

 

[cesarcmma]

^ I agree Mullet, that quote just hits the nail about everything, it was just so obvious, but nobody had said anything about it until now.

 

[style_expert]

If Nicholas did that, it's indeed smart ...
But why the hell didn't he do it before ??

I wondered that too, but at the same time people try to remain diplomatic....
I think the conflict of interests at VP as I'd like to refer to it, is just going on because people either don't notice it or don't bring it up..and it just continues...

(Not to change the subject but where would Balmain be if it wasn't for Emanuelle Alt...? Same for Isabel Marant..And of course, in the end this is competition for Balenciaga as well, and a bit of unfair competition too)

 

[BerlinRocks]

^I was actually to correct my post ...
but I'll do it there ...

one thing, I forgot ... MA Sauvé was a freelance or something at VP ... I'm not sure, but if I remember correctly, I think she was ...

so in the end this last information might be the truth ...

 

[Scott]

but you know what though,it happens with so many in the conde nastie world not just VP. and it's been going on for so long. it's not as if it's some colossal secret. what i want to know is why now are they suddenly reacting and wanting it to stop? that too seems a bit suspicious. and why only VP and not American Vogue? they do it there as well...i'm just saying

 

[montrealm]

^ its still very unclear rather its or not the reason for the blacklist, time will tell.

 

[Scott]

^yes. if that is indeed to be the truth.

 

[style_expert]

but you know what though,it happens with so many in the conde nastie world not just VP. and it's been going on for so long. it's not as if it's some colossal secret. what i want to know is why now are they suddenly reacting and wanting it to stop? that too seems a bit suspicious. and why only VP and not American Vogue? they do it there as well...i'm just saying

I agree, but isn't VP doing it a very obvious way?
I mean, I haven't seen Grace Coddington styling a runway show or campaign for a designer and then using the exact same clothes for the magazine, shooting with the exact same photographer and model on the same location...or did I miss an episode?

In the end, fashion is a business and yes, deals are being made, some shadier than others.

and yes we don't even really know if this is the reason of the ban

 

[FASHIONLOVA]

that story that they don t do counsulting is total BS it s pretty obvious to anybody and they re mama that they do it and they favour a lot of other designers mostly Balmain.

 

[retailqueen]

Looks like I was close. There is alot f favoritism and money making by the VP team. Something isn't right.
Wonder if this whole ordeal will have bigger repercussions...
thanks for posting that.

 

[Faith Akiyama]

and why only VP and not American Vogue? they do it there as well...i'm just saying

VP's tactics are FAR more blatant and provocative. I love Carine and her entourage but the internal workings are not only obvious in every issue of VP, it demonstrates itself during every Paris FW (Yesterday & today in particular *cough*).

 

[Leeroi]

Balenciaga doesn't need VP. The day Balenciaga blacklists American Vogue is the day Balenciaga will fail; the power Wintour has alone is equal to the other Vogue editor-in-chiefs combined. You can feel this by Carine's statements. She's more hurt about it than any one else. But she's having a little ego trip.

This is one of the juiciest dramas in fashion currently, so I'm having a guilty pleasure of wanting to know every single detail. Haha.