Balenciaga blacklists Vogue Paris?

[agee]

I wonder what Carine will be doing tomorrow morning?

So I read the earlier pages, is the grievance over MAS, protest against VP's business practices (the consulting; the two for one shoots) or both?

 

[ilaughead]

Whoa, hey. I totally forgot Balenciaga was tomorrow. I thought they always showed on Tuesdays. Now I've got something to look forward to in the morning!

 

[J'ador-DioR]

Carine & co weren't invited to the show judging by the frontrow pics at style.it

 

[Gabriel29]

wonder if the vp team was there today?

 

[Label Basher]

^ They would have had to make due with the Zac Posen show.

Sucks for them.

 

[Squizree]

I like Carine, so I feel kinda sympathetic, though what she did was kinda nasty.

 

[before]

Well, Carine and co aren't missing anything terribly exciting at Balenciaga. But I have to admire the people at Balenciaga for sticking to their guns; even though they are a big brand, it takes guts to shun such a big publication. That's if the coat swiping this is true but if it's because of MAS, then the extent which the rift has gone is ridiculous.

 

[ad041715]

^ Pardon, but what do you mean by 'coat swiping'?

 

[Omnis]

^ Pardon, but what do you mean by 'coat swiping'?

Rumour has it that the reason for Balenciaga blacklisting Vogue Paris (don't invite them to shows, don't lend out pieces for shoots, etc.) is that Carine Roitfeld took a Balenciaga coat that she was able to borrow as head editor of Vogue Paris and gave it to Max Mara (where she is hired as fashion stylist) for them to examine/copy it before she returned it to Balenciaga. Balenciaga found out, was outraged and banned Vogue Paris. If i remember correctly ..

 

[Squizree]

^ That's the outside of it, but the problem apparently runs deeper.

Balenciaga's old PR company, Pierre Rougier's PR Consulting, had a strong 12 year relationship with Balenciaga, but after the execs from Balenciaga started noticing suspicious similarities between their clothes and other clothes from Rougier's other clients (like Max Mara) they severed all ties with Rougier and brought in an In-House PR sector.
Rougier himself said "It's been a wonderful 12-year adventure with Balenciaga and I really wish Nicolas and Balenciaga all the best and lots of luck going forward"

Carine Roitfeld was only the tip of the iceberg. The Max Mara jacket was only one example of Balenciaga's suspicions. Apparently there are more that we don't know about...

 

[Street_a_Licious]

so VP is being made an example for the deeds Pierre Rougier's PR has done?

 

[Squizree]

^ Yes basically.

Actually wasn't there an issue between Balenciaga and DVF at some stage regarding a very similar issue? I'm probably thinking of something else...

 

[helmut.newton]

I don't understand the drama with the coat and the designers copying it. For all we know, hundreds of designers could be going out buying Balenciaga clothes, or loaning them off of their friends, to study their construction and copy it. There are many ways for people to 'steal' designs from Balenciaga. Carine was caught in the middle it seems. Sure, if the rumours are true, then what she did was wrong, but surely there has to be some deeper issue, no?

 

[Omnis]

What would really take this issue to another level is if Conde Nast internationally bans Balenciaga from all their publications as a returned favour. That would really put Balenciaga in a dilemma. Forgive and forget, or loose a lot of their publicity.

 

[agee]

Yeah but CN is not that unified, VP's loss is Vogue US, Vogue UK and Vogue China's and others gain.

 

[Squizree]

Yeah, Conde Nast is gigantic and VP is VERY separate from other Vogues. Besides, banning Balenciaga would be stupid because it would start a very idiotic and unnecessary war that would end in nothing.

This reminds me of Alaia, though I'm not sure the exact story with him and Anna W.

 

[t-rex]

This was posted on page 10 of this thread, from Fashionista:

Word on the street, or in the Tuileries, is that French Vogue was blacklisted from Balenciaga via Max Mara. The magazine’s editor-in-chief, Carine Roitfeld, consults, or did consult, for the Italian brand. She allegedly asked Balenciaga for samples for an editorial shoot, and one of the coats ended up at Max Mara’s design studio where it was copied and then sent back to Paris.
Balenciaga’s notoriously strict with their samples — almost everyone has to promise they’ll shoot the head to toe runway look and samples are usually lent out for a day at a time — and when the French label heard about Max Mara, they lost it.
If fashion were a monarchy, Carine would be our queen, so we hate to think she deliberately sent Max Mara the coat, but our sources say it was no mistake.

Given this is all true, why would Carine purposely send the coat?

 

[simons]

this is so good it must be fattening.

sorry this story is really interesting to me. i feel like we'll never know the complete truth though.

 

[modela]

I havent seen any similarities between Max Mara & Balenciaga ;they cater to completely different ; i would customers like to see the coat that they alledgly copied .

 

[ad041715]

Rumour has it that the reason for Balenciaga blacklisting Vogue Paris (don't invite them to shows, don't lend out pieces for shoots, etc.) is that Carine Roitfeld took a Balenciaga coat that she was able to borrow as head editor of Vogue Paris and gave it to Max Mara (where she is hired as fashion stylist) for them to examine/copy it before she returned it to Balenciaga. Balenciaga found out, was outraged and banned Vogue Paris. If i remember correctly ..

Thanks for explaining.