Balenciaga F/W 2016.17 Paris

[oaks]

Sometimes i ask me how the people who write here on TFS walk around fashionwise. all in fancy ballgowns with elaborated high heels and the it-bag of the season. so so boring.[/QUOTE]

HAHA, I often wonder this myself as someone who reads the boards on the daily. The comments sometimes do give me this vision in my head too!

Another thing that made me laugh out loud was the youtuber who commented "evil substitute teacher looks." For me this is the first look to a T, but I am living for it. The puffer jackets were cool, I have been waiting for an updated interpretation of this type of banal look done right. The atmosphere gave me a sort of SEARS/generic department store vibe, but in a good way. I can see myself finally letting go of the way things were with this new direction, even though some of it I found a miss (some floral looks with pants felt too Givenchy or something). Next season I can feel some excitement for Balenciaga once again.

 

[Sweet rus]

how bad is it? Jesus Christ

 

[FashionFanatico]

I don't want to sound rude at all, but calling this a revolution is just ridiculous. This is not even "new". It is indeed try hard cause they are obviously and unapologetically trying to be 'cool'. And don't know where you see the sexyness, to be honest.



Wild? Puuhlease. This is everything but wild. And this is the past, actually. They brought the past to the present, and what is funny... they didn't even reinterpreted it. So it's not 'now'. Well, it is now cause it's happening now, but that's it.



On the contrary, I'm sure he is that kind of designer that asks her assistant to compile everything written about him in the press.




Real people? Could you elaborate? Are there unreal people?



I'll have to get a Marchesa gown and a pair of Jimmy Choo heels (the ugliest ones in the world) so I sound legit criticising this. Although I didn't even criticised it, but pretending this guy is a genius is...

And visionary... OMG. I think you should revisit Margiela archives. And he did itWAY, WAY, WAY better and felt more genuine and cool. He was the actual visionary.

it's your opinion. it's my opinion. it's great that we have different ones.

real people - people who don't waste their free time writing on the Fashion Spot - and take themselves waaay to seriously. this includes me of course

ps: i really would like to see you in the tacky fashion spot critic outift, haha that one was great!

 

[IloveDiorHomme]

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Anna Wintour will enjoy this, I am sure ...

 

[FashionFanatico]

those market bags though.... you can basically get one for 3 dollars at the market in Thailand and it would be even more durable.[/QUOTE]

so true! and marc jacobs already made the same thing with the checkered laundry bag in 2013 or so.

 

[dior_couture1245]

^^Those bags from LV that Marc did were from 2007!

 

[Kite]

People were not very excited at the end of the show. There were people who even weren´t clapping at all.

Anna Wintour clapped through the entire finale. If that isn't something then I don't know what is.

I can't remember the last time I even saw her look up from her mobile during a finale.

 

[nataliaapple]

Those bags are before Marc, LV and today's Balenciaga. Seriously. I grew up with those bags and they are worth no more than $5. Huge in third world countries.

 

[birdofparadise]

Ghostbusters

A thesis, a statement of intent.

Balenciaga under Gvasalia will consider the archives, of course, but also consider the many needs of their desired consumer, someone who understands luxury goods but isn't entirely convinced.

What I saw was an acknowledgment that desire in and of itself is complicated and how fashion may ultimately be ill suited to tango with questions of vulnerability, the body, self awareness, 'newness', all questions that haunted Monsieur Balenciaga throughout his time in Paris and certainly before then. Gvasalia does not have all of the answers and doesn't pretend to but he proposes reflecting a certain comfort with unknowing, with discomfort. Many of the looks seemed unresolved, with cutting producing awkward fluidity away from the body. And that felt right, for right now.

This was a successful debut designed to show how this team will process immense challenges set before them, among them the legacy of 'the master of us all' and the flickering ghost of Ghesquiere, whose immensely imaginative work still successfully haunts.

 

[Kite]

Those bags are before Marc, LV and today's Balenciaga. Seriously. I grew up with those bags and they are worth no more than $5. Huge in third world countries.

Demna said in the show notes that the accessories were inspired by everyday bags.

A toolbox, a cycle bag, a pencil case and a market bag. "Boosting the ordinary till it becomes extraordinary" as Sarah Mower said.

 

[jeanclaude]

Anna Wintour clapped through the entire finale. If that isn't something then I don't know what is.

I can't remember the last time I even saw her look up from her mobile during a finale.

Kite, Anna Wintour claps on every Kanye West show...so this doesn´t say much. And there were a lot more of people there besides her.

 

[Creative]

You know what else I'm thinking...

Beyond that, what do these clothes say about anything? I'm really not sure. These are very two-dimensional clothes masquerading as "couture" shapes with "couture" proportion. Furthermore, the old trope of "couture" meets STREET has not been handled with any cleverness or newness. A puffa parka? Wow. Bravo........

I totally agree. I think the first look is quite strong, the proportions are on point, the volume is OK, it's severe, quite Balenciaga, but the rest of the show is crap to be honest.

I said there was some energy in here, and I do think it will be a cult brand from now on. But this is NOTHING. See it carefully and you realise 90% of it is just Zara clothes styled à la Vetements. So lame. And as good I think the first look is, the rest on that vein are simply wrong and bad executed.

 

[Zazie]

RIP Balenciaga

 

[Steddycam91]

Best collection by a house I've ever seen.

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[mistress_f]

Best collection by a house I've ever seen.

really???

at best, it was good. just good. i really liked the first outfits, before the sporty wind-breakers arrived . no comment on those. and the oversized / deconstructed bit right before the gowns appeared - seen before, done before (and better).

surprisingly enough, i liked some of the lose fitting gowns, the printed ones. they're sort of ugly, but they work for me.

i have no use for whatever comes afterwards, especially the final looks. straight out of a generic late 90s-early 2000s collection. those are just confusing? they're not even interesting in terms of styling.

the more fitted camel trench coat is amazing though.

the shoes are all horrid, the leather bags are meh and the striped ones legit look like the ones my grandma used to put her groceries in.

overall, meh. the ott praise demna gets is beyond me... but this is surely better than whatever he's doing at vetements

 

[Littleathquakes]

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LMFAO my sentiments too. Like others, I don't know how to process this. I guess I had so much hope for the house after Wang's departure.

 

[ogepma]

After watching the video several times, I've come to the realization that I like this collection a lot more than I thought. In fact, I love it. I feel like he finally has an avenue to prove himself to those us of who are sceptical of his "work" and truly live up to the hype. In this case, he's laid out a solid case for his vision. I got a strong NG vibe but one that wasn't too derivative. Instead it gave me that same feeling I got when he was still at Balenciaga; some subtle wonder at how the clothes were constructed and also, trying to figure out what exactly it was I was looking at. Those first few looks were pretty powerful, especially the opening one! I don't think he'd make as much an impact as NG but I think he'd keep this brand relevant on a critical and commercial basis. Wang was really beginning to make it second rate.

 

[masquerade]

This is about what I expected so I can't say I am shocked or disappointed.

It just leaves me cold. If this is hip, I don't want to be. Give me something attractive to look at. Or at least something that looks like it was created out of passion or creative expression. This is just cold.

 

[GERGIN]

I'm not disappointed, but I'm still waiting to be blown away from Demna.

 

[maxlinden]

I am literally laughing out loud at the replies.

I must clarify though I don't think it would matter.

What I meant to say is best collection this season by a house designed without a creative lead.

Yes, that means a collection full of vintage pieces with minimal design styled on trend was better
than Dior and Lanvin

Its the unfortunate truth