Boho is out, Beatnik is back

shopsmuch said:
Blah. I prefer neither look.
.... Why must everything in fashion now be so themed?

good question.. i'm all for the mix of lots of different refferances,
it's more fun to 'create' and makes people around me less bored

i agree on the trend 'semantics' on the 'less sweetnes' argument in Hillary Alexander's article, but i'll take the chance to draw a line between boho and peasant/folk just because a gypsy skirt is not on the same wagon as a traditionally embroidered/applique russian skirt, unfortunately those two totally different trend atmospheres seem confused by the end client base

apart from the obvious (streetwear looks 15-25 year olds) i've fist noticed a '80's beatnik/punk' corner in Zara two months ago
its far more fresh than the '50's beatnik' look even just for the black/yellow black/green black/purple combinations over that classic (imo boring) b&w

as for me, i think i'll stick with feminine turn of the century and masculine/utility menswear chic.. always in a crazy mix and match ^_^

thanks for bringing in the article MM :flower:
 
AFAIK most of the UK chains are going for the 'babushka' look - kind of winterised boho. They did so well with boho I don't think they want to change stuff too much. They had a lousy year last year with the ladylike look coz I guess most teenagers aren't used to wearing such restrictive stuff anymore. It didn't really sell. It's always the casual trends that sell the best - but I reckon beatnik is pretty casual too.
 
i think the beatnik look will not become as mainstream as the boho look was, one has not to forget that only skinny people will be really able to carry it off, otherwise it looks a bit frumpy.....
 
It may be worse than boho.

Badly cut tiered skirts are just that : bad.
But with clean, unforgiving lines and graphic prints like these, badly cut mod clothes with cheap fabrics are going to be hell.

And with boho/gipsy/euroethnic, at least most people could accommodate a bit the look so that it coud suit their silhouette. It's going to be harder to do that with mod without loosing the sharpness. It will de dull and frumpy. At least the badly done boho look is noisy and frumpy :p
 
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Cyalume said:
It may be worse than boho.

Badly cut tiered skirts are just that : bad.
But with clean, unforgiving lines and graphic prints like these, badly cut mod clothes with cheap fabrics are going to be hell.

hmmm ..great point made cyalume , welcome to tFS :flower:
 
Shopsmuch:

The reason fashion is so themed is to make it easier to merchandise in store - to get the idea of what a store looks like when there are no strong themes you only have to think of TK Maxx /TJ Maxx - a jumble sale.

Also makes it easier for the press to promote and sell.

TBH I get fed up with 'fancy dress' trends - it's all a bit halloween - we've had pocahontas, cowboys, fifties housewife, now beatnik, babushka. Where will it all end?
 
But of course this look is already a complete copy of edie sedgwick circa 65-67. The sad thing is that edie endend up with fake t*ts and a bad boho mojo before her death. mini dresses, short hair, big earrings, newsboy caps, big sunglasses will always be with us after the 60s fashion revolution that allowed girls to be fun and not just little matrons. really, these trend swings are trolling a few short years in fairly recent fashion history-- 1965 mod culture (which was already a little edwardian inspired) to 1970 hippy ethnic peasant/pucci looks. What was already a noteworthy shift in fashion of the 60s is recessitated as a noteworthy shift again.

Yppe said:
I love this look,and I'm so afraid that it becomes huge and everybody is wearing it. I don't want that it happens the same that with boho (At first I like it, but now that it's an invasion I want it to disapear)

Is the pic from Top shop or M&S? It is completely a Dior copy, the stripped minidress, flat boots and cap are the same.
 
Lady Muck said:
TBH I get fed up with 'fancy dress' trends - it's all a bit halloween - we've had pocahontas, cowboys, fifties housewife, now beatnik, babushka. Where will it all end?

:lol: so right, hopefully it will take a short brake with neo-minimalism on the rise no?

..btw, i totally agree on your explanation on why fashion is 'so themed' lady muck

*will beatnik sell big ? :unsure:
i very much doubt it will ever become as popular as the ethink/boho trend of this summer, i bet the babushka is more 'wide client base'
what do you guys think?
 
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I hope you're right, Lena, about it not becoming too popular.

I know the same can be said for 'bohemian', but dressing all beatnik without any of the lifestyle seems very wrong.
I hope people won't be ready to flush all colour out of their wardrobe because I'm going to get angry ( :lol: )if every magazine does a step-by-step guide on how to become a 'funny face' and we have to see both Audrey and Edie butchered :ninja:
 
Hmm, I like Beatnik style, and I've been wearing it for ages. I adore my drainpipes and sharp colours. Boho is so popular because it's accessible.
Beatnik won't be, and I doubt as many people will pick it up.
I hope so, anyway..
 
ok please dont let this be true :unsure: boho i can deal with loads of people wearing it because there was no chance of me liking it but this actually sounds like something i would buy bits of and wear :heart: if charv's start wearing this i dont know what face i will be pulling:blink:
 
I have been doing this for about 5 months now (as soon as Sienna became tabloid fodder boho was over) so am pretty annoyed Topshop is going to rip it to shreds like they always do. Damn them.

This is the result of Topshop's doing-my friend and her brother were in Brent Cross and they decided to count the number of girls in long, flowy skirts and huge brown belts-they counted 30 in an hour. That is 30. In an hour. Just wrong.
 
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Bohemian style is not supposed to be accessible though. In fact, although the term now causes allusions to cowboy boots and prairie skirts, it used to be invoked to describe a style that was electic and alternate to the mainstream. I think beatnik style can definately be made palatable to the masses- berets, black capris, black and white stripes, ballet flats. It would be cool (daddio) if a shift in trends was parralleled by a shift in social attitudes; i think that aesthetics should only be revived en masse in the case that the way of thinking that gave birth to them is revived en masse.
 
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I don't think that it becomes mainstream this winter (and I hope so) at least where I live. Boho has been around the fashion world for a couple of years before the big explosion of this summer with everybody dresseing boho. So, I think that the beatnik trend is too "new" in fashion to became mainstream now. I've seen new stuff (F/W 05 collections) in Mango, Zara, Pepe Jeans and a Bershka(a spanish high-street) and it isn't beatnik at all.
 
maybe this is just in my town but it seems that it's easier to catch on to a trend in the summer, the summer clothes are light little things just in different shapes and colors depending on the season. everyone can buy a couple of skirts (last year it was the short ones, this year the flowy peasent styled)

not that beatnik seems hard to follow but mostly in the winter I just see people going back tu the usual jeans and boots and same styled jacket as last years .. then again I'm still in school and not everyone can come in expensive coats and such too school so maybe that's a reason too but it still seems logical to me that the summertrends are easier to follow while during winter most people think about being warm and adding stuff like shals for a 'trendy' feeling.

ok I don't know if it sounds logical any more but it took me time to write so there's no way I'm not posting it now :p
 
I was all excited for a while over the boho look (I still like tunics and kaftans for casual lounging) but those peasant skirts and everything aren't very flattering (I own 2 that I don't even wear). I'm not sure about the beatnik but I'm open for a change!:woot:
 
I partially agree with Elli, I can't imagine a lot of people in my town going for the beatnik look next winter, mainly because people tend to dress with the same jeans and coats.

If high street shops do it, good for me because I'm going to find cheap clothes that I'll like, but it not necessarily means that everybody is going to wear it. The boho look is very popular because it's easier, but trends aren't always that popular. I remember F/W 03-04, Zara, Top Shop and other shops were full of mod, sixties-inspired clothes, but people didn't like the mod look copied from Marc Jacobs and we dind't see lots of Twiggys walking down the streets.

Maybe with beatnik is different, we'll see.
 

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